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Matpat, your theory is stupid, and here's why 2.0
So when Matpat made his first UT theory, I made a thread debunking it.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kDowfKp0s

The puns.
Please.
No.

"Some of the entries are lower case so it's Sans1!1!"
If I had just created a bunch of these [undertale.wikia.com], I wouldn't be too concerned about my puncuation.

"Sans would've killed you, so that means he's Gaster!"
Do you know who else tries to kill you?
Just about all of these[undertale.wikia.com].

"We all know that Sans is short for Comin Sans..."
Really? But I thought Sans was an anogram for NESS!

"And because Sans, Papyrus, and Gaster are all skeletons..."
Whe ndoes the game ever say that Gaster is a skeleton?
He doesn't even look like a skeleton!

Also, why is he whining about people disliking his first absurd theory?

EDIT: It's been about 3 hours and I already have 3 people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off at me because I have an opinion. The MatPat Defence Squad is eve nworse than the Chara Defence Squad.

EDIT 2: It seems everyone doesn't like how rude I'm being (mods included), so here's a version of the thread that you people would like:

Matpat, I love you with all my heart and you're perfect but I found a few things wrong with your theory but you're still perfact I love you

So when Matpat made his first awesome UT theory, I made a thread debunking it, even though it's perfect.

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kDowfKp0s

The puns.
Please.
Yes.
They're wonderful, just like you <3.

"Some of the entries are lower case so it's Sans1!1!"
This is a nexellent point, but if I had just created a bunch of these [undertale.wikia.com], I wouldn't be too concerned about my puncuation.

"Sans would've killed you, so that means he's Gaster!"
This is a flawless point, and I lov eit, but what else tries to kill you?
Just about all of these[undertale.wikia.com].

"We all know that Sans is short for Comin Sans..."
Really? But I thought Sans was an anogram for NESS!
Because obviously your "Sans is Ness" theory is perfect and all the haters should just gtfo!

"And because Sans, Papyrus, and Gaster are all skeletons..."
When does the game ever say that Gaster is a skeleton?
He doesn't even look like a skeleton!
Unless of course you think he's a skeleton, in that case he is, because you're just so awesome.

I'm so sorry about ever insulting you please I want your babies I love you <3<3<3<3<3<3

(This rewritten portion of the thread is sarcasm, if you can't tell.)
Last edited by fushigi friend; Feb 18, 2017 @ 5:33pm
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Originally posted by McCree:
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:

Too bad they aren't his theories and he just copy and pastes them into his awful scripts from tumblr. The only thing he's good at is manipulating people like you.
Aaaaaand this.

I don't think I've ever seen him say anything completely original which wasn't just copy pasted and reworded from a video game forum or tumblr. Even the "sans being human" thing has existed way before his sans is ness theory, and he just replaced human with ness for no reason
BadaBomb Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Pafbar the ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ:
Why oh why did frazier unlock this thread?!!
COME BACK!
Want me to go re report it?
Knuckles41 Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:
Originally posted by McCree:
Aaaaaand this.

I don't think I've ever seen him say anything completely original which wasn't just copy pasted and reworded from a video game forum or tumblr. Even the "sans being human" thing has existed way before his sans is ness theory, and he just replaced human with ness for no reason

Wow, almost as if two humans can't have the same idea/answer or theories isn't it? Wow, i'd be copying everyone else if I had a theory that blood is red right? wow. Let's be real, it's not out of this world, to believe any skeleton was once human, why? because we have skeletons, that our flesh contains. And sans being ness was based on many things, besides. It's a theory.

Originally posted by McCree:
Originally posted by Knuckles41:

Do I? or do you just have a negative one? Built up on nothing but your own ability to hate others?
First off, i'd like to tell you i'm not OP.

Second, you sound like you think just because it's a "theory" the creator is shielded from any criticism.

THIS IS WRONG.

It's a theory, but it's still something you believe is true. What OP is doing here is pointing at specific parts of the theory and giving his own opinion that it's incorrect; and he's doing it with a grain of salt, because of how retarded and toxic his fans are. Oh, you saw something you think is incorrect? Well too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad because the Mat defense squad doesn't care about logic, research or anything similar; it's from Mat, it's true, they worship him and follow his theories like blind sheeps.

Also, it's funny the fact that he's milking everything he can from Undertale before it becomes completely irrelevant.

Oh lookie here, a theory can be criticised? Well ofc it can, but that doesn't mean the creator of the thread has to be such an ass about it. And you ever think that some of it might sound similar to a tumblr theory is because idk he did research? and saw what others though? so then he agreed with that and got his own evidence on top? Wow, totally not like scientists in the past, have used newtons law to figure out new theories right? right? Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh
Last edited by Knuckles41; Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:19am
RippoMadness Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Oh lookie here, a theory can be criticised? Well ofc it can, but that doesn't mean the creator of the thread has to be such an ass about it.

few sentences into comment:
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh

Oh, the sodium-enriched irony.
Last edited by RippoMadness; Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:24am
BadaBomb Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by RippoMadness #WakeTheSheeple2017:
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Oh lookie here, a theory can be criticised? Well ofc it can, but that doesn't mean the creator of the thread has to be such an ass about it.

*few sentences into comment*

Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh

Oh, the sodium-enriched irony.
It's not irony.
It's just hypocrisy.
RippoMadness Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by BadaBomb:
It's not irony.
It's just hypocrisy.
That's what makes it ironic.
Last edited by RippoMadness; Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:26am
Pip Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:

I don't think I've ever seen him say anything completely original which wasn't just copy pasted and reworded from a video game forum or tumblr. Even the "sans being human" thing has existed way before his sans is ness theory, and he just replaced human with ness for no reason

Wow, almost as if two humans can't have the same idea/answer or theories isn't it? Wow, i'd be copying everyone else if I had a theory that blood is red right? wow. Let's be real, it's not out of this world, to believe any skeleton was once human, why? because we have skeletons, that our flesh contains. And sans being ness was based on many things, besides. It's a theory.

Originally posted by McCree:
First off, i'd like to tell you i'm not OP.

Second, you sound like you think just because it's a "theory" the creator is shielded from any criticism.

THIS IS WRONG.

It's a theory, but it's still something you believe is true. What OP is doing here is pointing at specific parts of the theory and giving his own opinion that it's incorrect; and he's doing it with a grain of salt, because of how retarded and toxic his fans are. Oh, you saw something you think is incorrect? Well too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad because the Mat defense squad doesn't care about logic, research or anything similar; it's from Mat, it's true, they worship him and follow his theories like blind sheeps.

Also, it's funny the fact that he's milking everything he can from Undertale before it becomes completely irrelevant.

Oh lookie here, a theory can be criticised? Well ofc it can, but that doesn't mean the creator of the thread has to be such an ass about it. And you ever think that some of it might sound similar to a tumblr theory is because idk he did research? and saw what others though? so then he agreed with that and got his own evidence on top? Wow, totally not like scientists in the past, have used newtons law to figure out new theories right? right? Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh
Believe me, I don't think anyone here is jealous of Matpat. If someone makes a theory, it's gonna be debunked. Or, at least, someone's going to attempt to debunk it.
Lain Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by A dumb person:
Wow, almost as if two humans can't have the same idea/answer or theories isn't it? Wow, i'd be copying everyone else if I had a theory that blood is red right? wow. Let's be real, it's not out of this world, to believe any skeleton was once human, why? because we have skeletons, that our flesh contains. And sans being ness was based on many things, besides. It's a theory.

There's a very strict difference between having the same idea and straight up copy paste it for youtube views.
Also, bones are organic matter.

Originally posted by A dumb person:
Oh lookie here, a theory can be criticised? Well ofc it can, but that doesn't mean the creator of the thread has to be such an ♥♥♥ about it. And you ever think that some of it might sound similar to a tumblr theory is because idk he did research? and saw what others though? so then he agreed with that and got his own evidence on top? Wow, totally not like scientists in the past, have used newtons law to figure out new theories right? right? Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh

Einstein didn't straight up steal every single word other cientists said and claimed it was his words, eh.

Also, this is my favorite bit.

"Shut up, all of you are just plain rediculous and obviously either misguided or jealous of matpat for god knows what reason. Smh"

Poor, poor children. "You all are wrong and i'm right!" That's so depressing to look at. Maybe one day you will realize how childish you are.
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Wow, almost as if two humans can't have the same idea/answer or theories isn't it? Wow, i'd be copying everyone else if I had a theory that blood is red right? wow. Let's be real, it's not out of this world, to believe any skeleton was once human, why? because we have skeletons, that our flesh contains. And sans being ness was based on many things, besides. It's a theory.

The amount of times you have said "wow" is very telling about how emotionally comprimised you become when people criticize a youtuber you're devoted to. MatPat obviously just latches onto whatever is popular with the 10-14 year old demographic at the time, and looks up a bunch of tumblr theories and copy and pastes them into a script with awful editing. The fact that he never does this to any games that isn't obscenely popular with a certain demographic means he has a target demographic in mind to sell out to.

I'm not sure why you think saying "it's a theory" negates any critique of said theory, either... Theories can be awful.
RippoMadness Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:
Theories can be awful.
As someone who has been long involved with the FNAF community, I can confirm that this is true.
Originally posted by Knuckles41:
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:

The amount of times you have said "wow" is very telling about how emotionally comprimised you become when people criticize a youtuber you're devoted to. MatPat obviously just latches onto whatever is popular with the 10-14 year old demographic at the time, and looks up a bunch of tumblr theories and copy and pastes them into a script with awful editing. The fact that he never does this to any games that isn't obscenely popular with a certain demographic means he has a target demographic in mind to sell out to.

I'm not sure why you think saying "it's a theory" negates any critique of said theory, either... Theories can be awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUy9_0M3bVk

Wow, is that your rebuttal?!?! Wow, I can't believe this. Just..just...wow.... Wow. Wow. just wow.
Originally posted by RippoMadness #WakeTheSheeple2017:
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:
Theories can be awful.
As someone who has been long involved with the FNAF community, I can confirm that this is true.

Yeah, MatPat has thoroughly capitalized on that too.
RippoMadness Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:
Originally posted by RippoMadness #WakeTheSheeple2017:
As someone who has been long involved with the FNAF community, I can confirm that this is true.

Yeah, MatPat has thoroughly capitalized on that too.
I believe that he completely sold out when he uploaded a six minute video that comprised of him doing nothing else but throwing his hands up and admitting defeat by subscribing to the Dream Theory. Any remaining faith that I had in him was shot down in an instant.
Last edited by RippoMadness; Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:43am
Pip Feb 19, 2017 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by RippoMadness #WakeTheSheeple2017:
Originally posted by Cocyx The Gay Skeleton:

Yeah, MatPat has thoroughly capitalized on that too.
I believe that he completely sold out when he uploaded a six minute video that comprised of him doing nothing else but throwing his hands up and admitting defeat by subscribing to the Dream Theory. Any remaining faith that I had in him was shot down in an instant.
Didn't that one get shot down by Scott himself when he said that Matpat missed a couple major points?
Originally posted by Captain Beemerang Jr.:
Originally posted by RippoMadness #WakeTheSheeple2017:
I believe that he completely sold out when he uploaded a six minute video that comprised of him doing nothing else but throwing his hands up and admitting defeat by subscribing to the Dream Theory. Any remaining faith that I had in him was shot down in an instant.
Didn't that one get shot down by Scott himself when he said that Matpat missed a couple major points?

I'm not really familiar with FNAF but I remember Toby Fox tweeting that it was embarrassing that MatPat was using a "romhack with swears" as evidence for a theory. He probably deleted that tweet by now though
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