Undertale

Undertale

ASRIEL Jun 2, 2017 @ 2:32pm
If Gaster Was Shattered Across TIME and Space...
Could he have been working on a time machine to go back with Gaster Blasters (superior firepower), thus preventing humans from winning the war?

Primitive firearms/bladed weapons would be easily beaten by dragon skulls that fire lasers. Just saying.

Perhaps the machine in Sans' back room is this time machine and it broke during the experiment, which is what shattered Gaster.
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fushigi friend Jun 2, 2017 @ 8:38pm 
Gaster Blasters:
Requires energy to use
Takes a few seconds to fire
And if you get caught in it, you still have time to get out of it before you die.

Now lets consider guns.
You pull the trigger.
What you're aiming at is dead within a few miliseconds.
And it took no effort on your end.

The humans out numbered the monsters. Step 1: Shoot gaster. Bam, no more "totaly eipc and cool rawr xd lasers" to kill them.
Originally posted by A Person:
Gaster Blasters:
Requires energy to use
Takes a few seconds to fire
And if you get caught in it, you still have time to get out of it before you die.

Now lets consider guns.
You pull the trigger.
What you're aiming at is dead within a few miliseconds.
And it took no effort on your end.

The humans out numbered the monsters. Step 1: Shoot gaster. Bam, no more "totaly eipc and cool rawr xd lasers" to kill them.

But guns run out of bullets.
fushigi friend Jun 2, 2017 @ 8:40pm 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Originally posted by A Person:
Gaster Blasters:
Requires energy to use
Takes a few seconds to fire
And if you get caught in it, you still have time to get out of it before you die.

Now lets consider guns.
You pull the trigger.
What you're aiming at is dead within a few miliseconds.
And it took no effort on your end.

The humans out numbered the monsters. Step 1: Shoot gaster. Bam, no more "totaly eipc and cool rawr xd lasers" to kill them.

But guns run out of bullets.

And monsters run out of energy.
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

But guns run out of bullets.

And monsters run out of energy.
Guns gonna run out faster though, especially if they can dodge like Sans.
fushigi friend Jun 2, 2017 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Originally posted by A Person:

And monsters run out of energy.
Guns gonna run out faster though, especially if they can dodge like Sans.

There are 7 million humans.

There are a little more than 100 monsters.
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Guns gonna run out faster though, especially if they can dodge like Sans.

There are 7 million humans.

There are a little more than 100 monsters.
7 billion.
Not all in one place though, and we also don't see every single monster.
ASRIEL Jun 2, 2017 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Gaster Blasters:
Requires energy to use
Takes a few seconds to fire
And if you get caught in it, you still have time to get out of it before you die.

Now lets consider guns.
You pull the trigger.
What you're aiming at is dead within a few miliseconds.
And it took no effort on your end.

The humans out numbered the monsters. Step 1: Shoot gaster. Bam, no more "totaly eipc and cool rawr xd lasers" to kill them.

There are many instances of bullet dodging. Plus, if these lasers are light based it will travel pretty much instantly.

Ammo consumption outweighs energy consumption.

Trust me, I know from personal experience.

Oh, and the war was probably fought with primitive "1 round per minute" firearms if they were used at all. I am more inclined to believe, personally, that it was all bladed weaponry.
ASRIEL Jun 2, 2017 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Guns gonna run out faster though, especially if they can dodge like Sans.

There are 7 million humans.

There are a little more than 100 monsters.

Billion* as of right now. The war itself was a long time ago. Long ago enough that it shows bladed weaponry at the beginning, at least.
ASRIEL Jun 2, 2017 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Originally posted by A Person:

And monsters run out of energy.
Guns gonna run out faster though, especially if they can dodge like Sans.

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Thiiiis

Plus, with evidence looking like Gaster having a "blood" relationship (bone relationship?), it is likely that is so. If Gaster is even a fraction as powerful as Sans is, and let's face it, he likely is more powerful, the humans would geeeeeeeeeet dunked on.

Sans can manipulate gravity, throw hundreds of in palling bones per minute, is extremely perceptive, and can use like 30 Blasters at a time. I shudder to think what Gaster could do to humans with spears and swords.

Gaster invented the Core, which powers the entire underground. Could be possible one of his experiments went to augment his own energy.

Or he could just drink Monster energy drinks (see what I did there?)
Orderan Jun 3, 2017 @ 5:31am 
Ok. There's a SMAAAAALL difference between dodging a psycho child running at you with a knife and sustained machine gun fire. And this is not considering bigger artillery.

Also considering how much punishment said child can take, I would not imagine how much time a correctly armored shell-shocked deathseeker could spend into a gaster blaster before suffering a scratch.

Lastly, no idea what the human tech level was during the war.
ASRIEL Jun 3, 2017 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Orderan:
Ok. There's a SMAAAAALL difference between dodging a psycho child running at you with a knife and sustained machine gun fire. And this is not considering bigger artillery.

Also considering how much punishment said child can take, I would not imagine how much time a correctly armored shell-shocked deathseeker could spend into a gaster blaster before suffering a scratch.

Lastly, no idea what the human tech level was during the war.

Yes, we do. We have a picture of Asgore+Monster Army vs Human army. All bladed weaponry.

Frisk/Chara had killed everyone in the Underground before encountering Gaster Blasters, so she was full of LOVE. Most humans wouldn't have had a kill count in the hundreds.
fushigi friend Jun 3, 2017 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by -_-:
Originally posted by Orderan:
Ok. There's a SMAAAAALL difference between dodging a psycho child running at you with a knife and sustained machine gun fire. And this is not considering bigger artillery.

Also considering how much punishment said child can take, I would not imagine how much time a correctly armored shell-shocked deathseeker could spend into a gaster blaster before suffering a scratch.

Lastly, no idea what the human tech level was during the war.

Yes, we do. We have a picture of Asgore+Monster Army vs Human army. All bladed weaponry.

Frisk/Chara had killed everyone in the Underground before encountering Gaster Blasters, so she was full of LOVE. Most humans wouldn't have had a kill count in the hundreds.

A human child can stand inside the laser beam for about 1.75 seconds before dying (The blaster can do about 20 damage in that amount of time, and you start with 20 health).

An adult could probobly survive for a little longer.
ASRIEL Jun 3, 2017 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by -_-:

Yes, we do. We have a picture of Asgore+Monster Army vs Human army. All bladed weaponry.

Frisk/Chara had killed everyone in the Underground before encountering Gaster Blasters, so she was full of LOVE. Most humans wouldn't have had a kill count in the hundreds.

A human child can stand inside the laser beam for about 1.75 seconds before dying (The blaster can do about 20 damage in that amount of time, and you start with 20 health).

An adult could probobly survive for a little longer.

A single Blaster.

There are an unspecified number of them, for whatever that's worth.
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