Undertale

Undertale

Lacalamity May 22, 2017 @ 2:40pm
Isn't Sans the real evil ?
[spoilers duh]

I know, blablabla the player is chara, chara wasn't a nice person etc...

But Sans is the one who let everything pass bye, the death of countless monsters. He knows about us, he knows our ability to mess with the timeline. But he just watches and has this stupid exuse of a promise which hinders him of killing us.
So isn't Sans pacifity the real cause of letting a genocide and neutral runs exist in the first place ?
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Saphayla May 22, 2017 @ 2:47pm 
No, because Sans is actually quite a smart character. He knows about your ability to reverse time and reset timelines. This is pretty much why he's so lazy. He knows that, at any time, everything he does can be wiped from existence. He also knows that he can't truly stop us, since we can just keep coming back and never die.

Also, while not doing anything definitely doesn't make you good, it doesn't make you bad, either.
fushigi friend May 22, 2017 @ 3:29pm 
If Sans hadn't been a totaly idiot and killed you before you got to level 19, it would have gone much better for him.

Oh, and evil or not, he is one of the antagonists.
{루루}RuRu (Banned) May 22, 2017 @ 3:45pm 
He is too pathetic to be evil.
Jomackson May 22, 2017 @ 4:23pm 
So keeping his word means nothing? Also the fact he knows you can reset means he tries to get you to go for a better run, but in the end when you have reached the point of no return he makes his final attempt to force you to give up the run. His knowledge of your ability is exactly why he let you. He had hoped you might turn out to have a sliver of good in you, which is nonexistant by then.

He is not an idiot, he wants you to stop and seek redemption. A better thing to do that simply kill you, after all we all should know even if he did kill us when he met us we would respawn.
fushigi friend May 22, 2017 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Meme Smith:
So keeping his word means nothing? Also the fact he knows you can reset means he tries to get you to go for a better run, but in the end when you have reached the point of no return he makes his final attempt to force you to give up the run. His knowledge of your ability is exactly why he let you. He had hoped you might turn out to have a sliver of good in you, which is nonexistant by then.

He is not an idiot, he wants you to stop and seek redemption. A better thing to do that simply kill you, after all we all should know even if he did kill us when he met us we would respawn.


The respawning thing never changes.

However, if he just fought Frisk earlier, Sans most definatly would have won.
Beehawke May 22, 2017 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by Meme Smith:
So keeping his word means nothing? Also the fact he knows you can reset means he tries to get you to go for a better run, but in the end when you have reached the point of no return he makes his final attempt to force you to give up the run. His knowledge of your ability is exactly why he let you. He had hoped you might turn out to have a sliver of good in you, which is nonexistant by then.

He is not an idiot, he wants you to stop and seek redemption. A better thing to do that simply kill you, after all we all should know even if he did kill us when he met us we would respawn.


The respawning thing never changes.

However, if he just fought Frisk earlier, Sans most definatly would have won.
Uh, why would he though? They can just reset, and now they know to kill Sans immediately because he would be recognized as a threat.
fushigi friend May 22, 2017 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
Originally posted by A Person:


The respawning thing never changes.

However, if he just fought Frisk earlier, Sans most definatly would have won.
Uh, why would he though? They can just reset, and now they know to kill Sans immediately because he would be recognized as a threat.


Your logic doesn't make sense.

Tell, me, in what situation would sans be more likely to win:

A situation where Frisk is level 19 or a situation where Frisk is level 10?
Beehawke May 22, 2017 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
Uh, why would he though? They can just reset, and now they know to kill Sans immediately because he would be recognized as a threat.


Your logic doesn't make sense.

Tell, me, in what situation would sans be more likely to win:

A situation where Frisk is level 19 or a situation where Frisk is level 10?
The latter situation. However, either way, they will reset, along with knowledge that Sans must be killed immediately. So all sans would be doing is helping them gain XP. Not only that, but if you kill sans, you will immediately be leveled up to level 20.
fushigi friend May 22, 2017 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
The latter situation. However, either way, they will reset, along with knowledge that Sans must be killed immediately.

The average player does not give have enough skill to kill sans at level 19 and the number of people who can't beat sans will go up dramaticly if you fight him at level 10.

Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
Not only that, but if you kill sans, you will immediately be leveled up to level 20.

Um, no.

Sans gives you XP. He doesn't set your level to something.
Beehawke May 22, 2017 @ 8:09pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
The latter situation. However, either way, they will reset, along with knowledge that Sans must be killed immediately.

The average player does not give have enough skill to kill sans at level 19 and the number of people who can't beat sans will go up dramaticly if you fight him at level 10.

Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
Not only that, but if you kill sans, you will immediately be leveled up to level 20.

Um, no.

Sans gives you XP. He doesn't set your level to something.
Actually, he does. If you beat sans on level one, you will immediately be leved up to level 2o.
fushigi friend May 22, 2017 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Shouty Mcnubs:
Originally posted by A Person:

The average player does not give have enough skill to kill sans at level 19 and the number of people who can't beat sans will go up dramaticly if you fight him at level 10.



Um, no.

Sans gives you XP. He doesn't set your level to something.
Actually, he does. If you beat sans on level one, you will immediately be leved up to level 2o.

So you don't have a combeback to the first half of my post?

Great.
{루루}RuRu (Banned) May 22, 2017 @ 8:43pm 
Some topics are just taken way too seriously.
Vixeno May 22, 2017 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by 루시Luuci:
Some topics are just taken way too seriously.
Man do I agree with that
Saphayla May 22, 2017 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by A Person:
If Sans hadn't been a totaly idiot and killed you before you got to level 19, it would have gone much better for him.

Oh, and evil or not, he is one of the antagonists.
It doesn't matter what level you are on when Sans fights you. You can fight Photshop Flowey at level 1 and still beat him. And Photshop Flowey is much more powerful than Sans.

If Sans had attacked you before, it wouldn't change anything. There are people who have a hard time beating Sans, but there are also people who can beat him without taking a single hit.

It doesn't matter how hard the fight is. As long as you can reload, you have infinite tries, so you'll get it eventually. Sans knows that, and that's why he doesn't attack you until the very end.
No, because he'd have no reason to attack you if you don't do genocide. He'd be killing someone who'd potentially help them all.
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