Soul magic

[Mr.R]

I've heard from some people that you can't turn a monster's souls green or blue like you can for a human is this true ?

[plznostep]

Well we really don't know I don't think theres any evidence to say that a monsters soul can't be turned into green or blue but theres none for saying that it can so I don't know

[Mr.R]

Originally posted by PleaseDontStepOnMe:

Well we really don't know I don't think theres any evidence to say that a monsters soul can't be turned into green or blue but theres none for saying that it can so I don't know

I don't see any reason for mosnter magic to evlove just to counter humans.They were once peaceful to eachother.

[plznostep]

Well its a bit hard to decide because well we actually never seen the effects of this on a monster but since there made out of magic and humans are made of determination so what we need to figure this out is the difference between and then hopely we will get a answer.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Well the different SOUL colors represent different character traits, and these traits correspond with how you befriend or defeat each boss that uses them. I don't really understand how the monsters can actively change the characteristic of your SOUL, or why they just so happen to do it in a way you can defeat them. This is one part of Undertale that just seems to be done for the sake of it being a game.

As for the idea of can a monster SOUL change colors, I don't think so. There's no mention of it in the game, and monster souls seem to possibly have all these positive traits intrinsically, to the point where monsters NEED their souls in order to feel any form of positive emotions. Perhaps some monsters express one of these traits more significantly than the others, and can imprint that trait onto a human SOUL? Maybe that's how they're able to change the color of your SOUL? This would also explain how several different monsters and bosses can use the light blue and orange attacks.

But again, this is all speculative.

[Mr.R]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Well the different SOUL colors represent different character traits, and these traits correspond with how you befriend or defeat each boss that uses them. I don't really understand how the monsters can actively change the characteristic of your SOUL, or why they just so happen to do it in a way you can defeat them. This is one part of Undertale that just seems to be done for the sake of it being a game.

As for the idea of can a monster SOUL change colors, I don't think so. There's no mention of it in the game, and monster souls seem to possibly have all these positive traits intrinsically, to the point where monsters NEED their souls in order to feel any form of positive emotions. Perhaps some monsters express one of these traits more significantly than the others, and can imprint that trait onto a human SOUL? Maybe that's how they're able to change the color of your SOUL? This would also explain how several different monsters and bosses can use the light blue and orange attacks.

But again, this is all speculative.

But then why does Undyne turn our soul gree ? Isn't that kindness ? Maybe the the change they put on our soul is different from changing the trait of the souls if that amkes sense ?

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

And as for what each color means:

Light Blue = Patience = Seen in the don't move attacks.
Orange = Bravery = Seen in keep moving attacks.
Dark Blue = Integrity = Used by Sans and Papyrus, manipulates gravity of the SOUL.
Green = Kindness = Used by Undyne and healing magic, creates a shield or heals.
Purple = Perserverance = Used by Muffet, limits SOUL movement to a web
Yellow = Justice = Used by Mettaton (and Alphys?), causes SOUL to fire projectiles
Red = Determination = Used by Frisk/Chara/the player, amalgamates, and Asriel, allows user to negate the effects of an action or even time and space.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Mr.R:

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Well the different SOUL colors represent different character traits, and these traits correspond with how you befriend or defeat each boss that uses them. I don't really understand how the monsters can actively change the characteristic of your SOUL, or why they just so happen to do it in a way you can defeat them. This is one part of Undertale that just seems to be done for the sake of it being a game.

As for the idea of can a monster SOUL change colors, I don't think so. There's no mention of it in the game, and monster souls seem to possibly have all these positive traits intrinsically, to the point where monsters NEED their souls in order to feel any form of positive emotions. Perhaps some monsters express one of these traits more significantly than the others, and can imprint that trait onto a human SOUL? Maybe that's how they're able to change the color of your SOUL? This would also explain how several different monsters and bosses can use the light blue and orange attacks.

But again, this is all speculative.

But then why does Undyne turn our soul gree ? Isn't that kindness ? Maybe the the change they put on our soul is different from changing the trait of the souls if that amkes sense ?

You befriend Undyne by befriending the monsters and giving her water after she tried to kill you, both of which are acts of kindness.

[Mr.R]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Originally posted by Mr.R:

But then why does Undyne turn our soul gree ? Isn't that kindness ? Maybe the the change they put on our soul is different from changing the trait of the souls if that amkes sense ?

You befriend Undyne by befriending the monsters and giving her water after she tried to kill you, both of which are acts of kindness.

But she turns you green during her fight before you do any of that to make her friendly enough for that.She turns you green in her genocide boss fight too.

[plznostep]

Originally posted by Mr.R:

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

You befriend Undyne by befriending the monsters and giving her water after she tried to kill you, both of which are acts of kindness.

But she turns you green during her fight before you do any of that to make her friendly enough for that.She turns you green in her genocide boss fight too.

Well shes doing it for her kind and that pun was not intended but I think I just discovered it shes doing it for her kind not the emotion kind.

[bhwgamer]

Actually, there is a group of Papyrus and Undyne phonecalls in Hotland where Papyrus mentions that Undyne turns people's SOULs green, which implies that monsters can change each other's SOULs for combat/training purposes.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by bhwgamer:

Actually, there is a group of Papyrus and Undyne phonecalls in Hotland where Papyrus mentions that Undyne turns people's SOULs green, which implies that monsters can change each other's SOULs for combat/training purposes.

But he could just be referring to the previous humans.

[bhwgamer]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Originally posted by bhwgamer:

Actually, there is a group of Papyrus and Undyne phonecalls in Hotland where Papyrus mentions that Undyne turns people's SOULs green, which implies that monsters can change each other's SOULs for combat/training purposes.

But he could just be referring to the previous humans.

True, but we don't know for sure if Undyne has fought a human before since some of her dialogue in her fight suggests otherwise.

[plznostep]

Originally posted by bhwgamer:

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

But he could just be referring to the previous humans.

True, but we don't know for sure if Undyne has fought a human before since some of her dialogue in her fight suggests otherwise.

Well we know Asgore did and tori because they had a divorce

[Mr.R]

Originally posted by PleaseDontStepOnMe:

Originally posted by bhwgamer:

True, but we don't know for sure if Undyne has fought a human before since some of her dialogue in her fight suggests otherwise.

Well we know Asgore did and tori because they had a divorce

They divorced because they disagredd on the plan to kill humans who fall underground.

[plznostep]

Originally posted by Mr.R:

Originally posted by PleaseDontStepOnMe:

Well we know Asgore did and tori because they had a divorce

They divorced because they disagredd on the plan to kill humans who fall underground.

Yeah which means that they were there for some humans