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This is the final scene after the credits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4f8NhTuhcc
So we all know now that Rinoa is going to live happily with Squall and she has no reason to become Ultimecia. Ultimecia is destroyed and the time line is closed.
Personally I don't think that Rinoa is Ultimecia. Probably she is related to her somehow but not the very same person in different times.
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Dieser Post entspricht meiner Meinung und es ist absolut nicht notwendig eine Wissenschaft daraus zu machen.
Ultimecia could be the effect of Squall not surviving in the timeline that Ultimecia at first didn't affect.
Ultimecia might be the effect of something that happens AFTER their happy time, since Rinoa is still a sorcerer.
Ultimecia might be the effect of the fact that they killed Ultimecia (paradox).
It's not that hard to think in timelines. If you can't see how this works, just think about it for a while.
I played BS Infinite and understood it (which is much more complicated around time lines than FF8), so I am familiar with such things ;)
But I don't think the makers of FF8 thought about such a thing.
That's totally FanFic otherwise provide me an official link where Square approved that stuff.
The ending is clear for me so I don't need to think about afterstories or background which isn't related with the real story.
Even if there is any pseudo-evidence for this theory it isn't part of the canon since Square never approved such stories as far as I know.
Anyway the Time line or the time cycle created by Ultimecia is closed. But that doesn't mean that Ultimecia doesn't exists after FF8's ending. I think it brings the possibility of a sequel from her perspective. As leaders of nations agree that Sorceresses pose great dangers and therefore a witch hunt begins.
As far as I remember from over a decade ago...doesn't a sorceress live a very long time?
I figured Rinoa lives happily for a while, Squall dies of old age, time passes, she becomes Ultimecia.
Just wanted to mention that Square seems to stated that Rinoa is definitely not Ultimecia.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Rinoa-Ultimecia_Theory
The facts are written at the very end of the whole article (above the "comments" and "external links" sections)
So from Squenix side those are absolutely different persons.
I don't have anything against fan theories (the indoctrination theory of mass effect 3 is interesting even if I don't believe in it) but if it counters the actual canon of the game made by the developers such theories doesn't make much sense.
BioWare for example haven't denied but also not approved the indoctrination theory so there is enough room for believing in it.
However Squenix clearly denied the "rinoa is ultimecia" theory so it is definitely non-canon.
But I do have my own thoughts on it :)
One simple fact that most overlook is that during the time compression at the end Squall travels back to the orphanage and witnesses Ultemicia give her power once more to Edea in the past (before the start of the game), now at no point after this does it imply that anything from that point on changed, as such why would the cycle not just repeat? Yes you beat Ultemicia, but that was in the future, all she wants is time compression, a closed time line that forever loops on itself is time compression.
What I am saying is this, Ultemicia passed her power to Edea using Junction Ellone which Odine created right? But Squall uses Ellone to travel through time and stop her doing this, but when he does this you then witness Ultimecia in her weakened state from your fight pass her power to Edea in the past, so her power is still around in the world at this point. This would then surely just have the same events of the game repeat over and over for eternity, otherwise what happened to Ultemicias power that you watch Edea absorb and why was she not taken over by it in this version of events?
Also on the crazy theories, why are Odine and Ultemicia the only two characters in the entire game that use the letter 'z' instead of 's'??????? Could it be that you in fact create the opportunity for ultemica to exist by telling Odine about his own invention which in turn will allow Ultemica to pass her power back? Did he try to create this situation just to see his lifes work have purpose?
You are likely right I just find the crazy theories to be the most fun to talk about :) on a side note to do with Odine, if i were Squall and someone explained what is going to happen and that without Odine and his invention Ultemicia can't send her power back in the first place, well lets just say I might have killed someone to stop Ultemicia but it wouldn't have been her ;)
Or something,,,
That said, there are a enormous amount of foreshadowing in the game going from the Rinoa coat on the logo to Rinoa fears and Ultimecia GF. If you look at some of the lines on disc 3 and 4 it becomes a really terrifing possibility.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120802150918/finalfantasy/images/1/13/8a-logo_ff8_art.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120813220638/finalfantasy/images/4/43/Ultimecia_Final_-_Full_View.png
The problem with the theory other than the absense of proof, is that it relies on Rinoa changing into ultimecia somehow. Having a plot point out of sign and with no reason when any other possibility can result in the same, only works as a Theory.
It has it reason to exist and nothing makes it totally impossible, which makes it an amazing theory way better than Squall is Dead.
But the existence of the theory and all the takes we can have with it, or the loops before our actual timeline is something great to have fun with in this game.
--My take inside the theory--
I like to think that Squall dying when absorbed into time is what turns Rinoa into Ultimecia and Squall surviving this time changes the future where Ultimecia lives. "We know we can change the past like Squall and Ultimecia did, but we don't know if changing the future can affect the same timeline"
This makes hard to imagine the loop starter timeline, since it would happen different, but there would be no Gardens, Seeds and probably no Griever too. Who knows how many times Squall changed the past until the names Garden and Seed come up. Maybe in the end is Squall who saves Rinoa for being all alone because of the friends from Garden who were able to change him.