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Don't get FF10 HD didn't add anything just removed content waste of money.
They removed the Save data Screen no cutscene skip and butchered the one fight track you hear the entire game but left the boss battle theme pretty much intact, they could have remixed that making it better and left the regular fight music alone.
The only upgrade i noticed was the item screen is 2 rows wide now cause of widscreen in battle, menus look worse (opinions may differ) plus they added cross save with vita that most no one will use anyway and if it like retro city rampage using it will disable trophies.
You can't even get FF10 and X-2 seperate like they did for Symphonia and Symphonia Poo i mean 2 plus the trophies are just time vampire like tales games they aren't even properly described.
They could have made Dissidia HD with added characters and levels or released Dissida HD and made it not garbage, games that could use a overhaul and the extra buttons on the controller, nevermind then they would have had to put effort in that way and not ♥♥♥♥ us off more.
Long story short get Dissidia plus FF7 8 and FF3 (coming soon) on Steam will prob cost around the same if not cheaper and be actually worth your money, will have 4 good games instead of just 1 mediocre unless you just really love cheasy love stories but that what FF8 was for. (FF8 better than 10 has this thing called "World Map")
Couldn't even get the title right FF10 Remaster you mean FF10 REMASTERED?!?
(Joke Sarcasm)
Says on the back "200 hours of gameplay" ya 200 hours of grinding.
Last edited by Warrior of Right; May 18, 2014 @ 5:24am
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LeonhartGR Mar 19, 2014 @ 10:27am 
offtopic but well said!
Filana Mar 19, 2014 @ 11:07am 
I played FFX and X-2 last year, and the "low quality" didn't bother me at all, it looked great actually, so HD doesn't even seem neccesary. Kinda sad what they did to most of my favorite tracks too..
On the bright side, they added International (+ Last Mission I believe), a version only released in Japan. :)
taxicabmessiah Mar 19, 2014 @ 12:18pm 
The original FFX wasn't even that great in my opinion. It had it's moments but it was meh.

*Holds up flame shield*
Warrior of Right Mar 19, 2014 @ 1:38pm 
They could of added cross saving with the ps2 data so we didn't have to start over or even better carry over somethings to a new file, could of at least let you start with all the al bed primers.
Not doing the entire sphere grid again, apperently expert (international) sphere grid is smaller so it would be faster to get around but you all start at the same point.
i didn't like the story or cutscenes excluding the intro but i did like the gameplay how they all started out as their own class but then you could branch off however you wanted.
Just played the intro and got bored looking for tinder and flint, what were you doing in FF7 around that point? oh yeah blowing up another reactor.
When does FF10 pick up again? Once you get to the calm lands right before you get the ship?
Ya not a fan of what they did to the music, haven't tried X-2 don't know if that got the same treatment prob won't try it anytime soon.
The old versions don't look bad at all if you play it with a component cord on ps2 or on a backwords compatible ps3, should have been HD and widescreen in the first place.
Oh yeah almost forgot apperently the new video they added completely messes up the story/ makes FF10 pointless.
Last edited by Warrior of Right; Mar 20, 2014 @ 2:17am
Trehek Mar 20, 2014 @ 6:40am 
Wow! What a whiney post! Someone sure was disappointed.

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
They removed the Save data Screen no cutscene skip and butchered the one fight track you hear the entire game but left the boss battle theme intact, they should have remixed that making it better and left the regular fight music alone.

Well yeah, I was disappointed with the new battle theme too. In general I like its new intensity, but a few off-key notes just bug me to no end! Check after about 1:05 and 1:30 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNoem1VEtyc

Don't get why you complain about the Enemy Attack theme. It WAS remastered. Check the old and new one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQfDsVhS9BA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXPr_zr-r40

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
The only upgrade i noticed was the item screen is 2 rows wide now cause of widscreen in battle, menus look worse (opinions may differ) plus they added cross save with vita that most no one will use anyway and if it like retro city rampage using it will disable trophies.
You can't even get FF10 and X-2 seperate like they did for Symphonia and Symphonia Poo i mean 2 plus the trophies are just time vampire like tales games they aren't even properly described.

HD widescreen resolution was added, obviously. Textures were remade, interface elements and the sphere grid graphics etc. were remade. 80% of music was remade. I've liked most of the changes, except the aforementioned battle theme. I think the looks are great!

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
They could have made Crisis Core HD or Dissidia HD, games that could use a overhaul and the extra buttons on the controller, nevermind then they would have had to put effort in that way and not ♥♥♥♥ us off more.
Long story short get Crisis Core, Dissidia plus FF7 and 8 on Steam will prob cost around the same if not cheaper and be actually worth your money, will have 4 good games instead of just 1 mediocre unless you just really love cheasy love stories but that what FF8 was for.

Impressive rant right there. You even mention FF8 as a cheesy story and in the same rant mention it as a good game. Ok.

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
Couldn't even get the title right FF10 Remaster you mean FF10 REMASTERED?!?

Nothing wrong with using the noun instead of the adjective. Remaster is as correct as remastered.
Eighty Mar 20, 2014 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Trehek:
Wow! What a whiney post! Someone sure was disappointed.

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
They removed the Save data Screen no cutscene skip and butchered the one fight track you hear the entire game but left the boss battle theme intact, they should have remixed that making it better and left the regular fight music alone.

Well yeah, I was disappointed with the new battle theme too. In general I like its new intensity, but a few off-key notes just bug me to no end! Check after about 1:05 and 1:30 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNoem1VEtyc

Don't get why you complain about the Enemy Attack theme. It WAS remastered. Check the old and new one here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQfDsVhS9BA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXPr_zr-r40

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
The only upgrade i noticed was the item screen is 2 rows wide now cause of widscreen in battle, menus look worse (opinions may differ) plus they added cross save with vita that most no one will use anyway and if it like retro city rampage using it will disable trophies.
You can't even get FF10 and X-2 seperate like they did for Symphonia and Symphonia Poo i mean 2 plus the trophies are just time vampire like tales games they aren't even properly described.

HD widescreen resolution was added, obviously. Textures were remade, interface elements and the sphere grid graphics etc. were remade. 80% of music was remade. I've liked most of the changes, except the aforementioned battle theme. I think the looks are great!

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
They could have made Crisis Core HD or Dissidia HD, games that could use a overhaul and the extra buttons on the controller, nevermind then they would have had to put effort in that way and not ♥♥♥♥ us off more.
Long story short get Crisis Core, Dissidia plus FF7 and 8 on Steam will prob cost around the same if not cheaper and be actually worth your money, will have 4 good games instead of just 1 mediocre unless you just really love cheasy love stories but that what FF8 was for.

Impressive rant right there. You even mention FF8 as a cheesy story and in the same rant mention it as a good game. Ok.

Originally posted by Quit Laggin Dragin:
Couldn't even get the title right FF10 Remaster you mean FF10 REMASTERED?!?

Nothing wrong with using the noun instead of the adjective. Remaster is as correct as remastered.

You made my day.
Also, I adore the remastered tracks. When I heard they were completely redone after a dev was talking about the PS2's sound hardware, -that- was what pushed my interests on the HD collection the most.
Warrior of Right Mar 22, 2014 @ 12:18pm 
(More info on HD remaster next post)
i'm sure, pointing out the flaws with your precious new gen gaming is considered whining cause that's how you read it, dissapointed?
My standards are low for new gen games especially squenix, cause squenix fanboys pay for anything and i was still dissapointed.
You kidding right?!? They butchered moonflow and other tracks as well post the difference for that too since that the only helpful thing you did.
i didn't even notice they remixed the boss fight sounded the same, that the one valid thing you mentioned if it true.
i know you don't get it, i said why already read everything before you respond, my point was remix BUT GOOD not rocket science.
Like how you ignored all my other points.
Listen to dissida OST thats how you remix FF songs just cause you don't get it doesn't mean it aint a valid arguement, thanks for posting examples so people will know what i mean.
Have you even played Dissidia or Crisis Core? Never mind i think know the answer.
The remaster part was a joke you ever hear of sarcasm Esssay?
Way to conveniently ignore the 200 hours of grinding prob was going to retort that but couldn't come up with anything good so went after my joke comment and Remaster does sound odd actually makes them sound like they think they got a work of art here.

i was warning people to get multiple good squenix games instead of this mediocre garbage, if i'm whiney you a squenix fanboy, every one seemed to heed my warning before you showed up a little late everyone prob already got it or not by now.
Games aren't just about story and if you think so and got FF 10 you must have no standards.
Yes FF8 isn't that great but still WAY better than that garbage it has this thing called a "world map" that came before your time in the long long ago.
i'm not going to start pointing out the flaws of FF8 on this topic especially on the FF8 Board way to try and change the subject.
They could have put the effort into FF7 or 8 or god forbid FF9.
i also said it should have been HD and WIDESCREEN in the first place since graphics the only thing really FF10 has going for it.
God of War 2 is 720p and even Banjo Tooie has widescreen a N64 game how could they have not made ff10 widescreen, i know since that would take effort like leaving in the free camera FF10 used to have.
Have fun dodging 200 lightning bolts!!!
i will be playing a good RPG while you do that, South Park is ten fold better than FF10 a paper mario type RPG and also doesn't drag it out with grinding.
Last edited by Warrior of Right; Mar 22, 2014 @ 1:35pm
Warrior of Right Mar 22, 2014 @ 12:26pm 
Moving on.
Played a little FF10-2 more than FF10 since FF10 take forever to pick up and has unbearable cutscenes and voice acting you can't skip but X-2 you can skip MOST cutscenes and start with a ship and all of spira unlocked.
The soundtrack intact and they added Monster Arena.
You can catch and replace Yuna Rikku and Paine with these monsters which kinda cool but the best part is there is one arena called Farplane cup where you can fight and capture Auron, Lulu, Seymor Tidus (looks like you can capture Aons too don't know haven't seen proof) it looks like that an actual upgrade not just another Boss or Dungeon or butchered OST.
(looks like you can't do the farplane cup till you complete the others first so best thing to do is wait for someone to complete X-2 and uplaod there save data with new game plus and hopefully you can just play it with a dummy account and remove Paine from the get go and replace with Auron)
i also played a little final mission seemed like garbage (at least to me) you climb tower floors like those tower RPG's i only played for 15 min though play/watch it yourself to judge how it is.
Oh yeah one draw back to Auron and all them, since technically they monsters can't control them.
Still Skeptical? here is a vid of someone using them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK5aQ6CInK8
Last edited by Warrior of Right; Mar 24, 2014 @ 8:28pm
Trehek Mar 23, 2014 @ 3:46am 
Much of what you said is a matter of opinion, so I won't touch that.

I intentionally ignored delving into your comments about Dissidia and Crisis Core too deeply the last time. Square decided to remaster FFX, and complaining that they should have done another game instead is rather pointless. Equally pointless is making assumptions about me having played said games. (I have played Dissidia but not Crisis Core). Whether or not the FFX remaster is good or not is another matter entirely. The soundtrack has problems just as you say, which is a real shame, but the new graphics are better. And you're right, the background harmonica in Sprouting (the moonflow theme) is horrible!

Your complaints about FFX story and 200 lightning bolts, for example, are also rather pointless because they have nothing to do with the remaster - those things are present even in the old version. It's a fact that some people like FFX and some hate it, and the remaster isn't going to change that.

South Park: The Stick of Truth was a great game! I'm glad to hear you liked it as I did! Have you read its forums, though? The threads about how "that game shouldn't have cost 60$" and how it's "like a cheap Flash browser game" are huge! I mean, I think it looks and feels like South Park, just as intended! :D
Warrior of Right Mar 24, 2014 @ 8:26pm 
Not opinion FACT.
i already said my point was to warn others cause you know people are curious, everything else was just extra since i stopped playing it since it unbearable with bad music AND cutscenes (HORNLESS!!) with no real add on besides textures look a bit better.
i could have done that with little to no developing skills with MS paint i've done it before.
They could have let you choose which soundtrack like sonic generations not hard.
Every Blu Ray needs to be packed to the brim like MGS4

Compared to some JRPG's south park is short and small, but compared to paper mario and active RPG's its the best one ever made.
Any good game will seem short when it good and they don't reuse missions and such always something new i'd rather it be short and sweet instead of reuse same garbage and drag it out like Tales games.
Only thing i didn't like about southpark was all the missables (even though i managed to get them all first time) and the brokeness (just graphical on PS3 stopped saving for a buddy but not me) otherwise great RPG and funny unlike past few seasons FLAME ON!

Originally posted by Trehek:

Your complaints about FFX story and 200 lightning bolts, for example, are also rather pointless because they have nothing to do with the remaster - those things are present even in the old version. It's a fact that some people like FFX and some hate it, and the remaster isn't going to change that.
i didn't complain about the lightning bolts?!? and no you could make lulu's last weapon and a better one at that i know what im talking about i did the entire sphere grid only thing i don't know about is the international content.
You need 200 bolts for the platinum not even for the reward just a trophy, so you know people can't just ignore it there are going to be many broken controllers and rage quits.
it has everything to do with remaster compadre weather you and i care about it or not.
i like and hate ff10 that's why these changes were enough to stop me playing on top of the usual BS.
They handled X-2 much better only reason i don't completely regret getting it.
(thank god it had skip cutscenes).
Yes you are half right about people not caring about remaster the people that don't pay attention to detail.
Can you please stop posting if you don't know what you talking about if you want to contribute post some more music comparisons or list additions i may have missed otherwise i'm done humoring.
Last edited by Warrior of Right; Mar 24, 2014 @ 9:19pm
Trehek Mar 25, 2014 @ 3:05am 
Can you please stop posting if you don't know what you talking about if you want to contribute post some more music comparisons or list additions i may have missed otherwise i'm done humoring.

Ahahaha! You made my day!

I am the one who has been humoring this thread, simply for the sake of facts. This thread is misleading people, starting from the title that mistakenly claims that the remaster removes content, which is not true! Don't try to claim that your opinions are facts, even though there are facts which you base them on! You do point out some facts, but much of what you say IS opinion, and angry at that. You should calm down.

i know what im talking about i did the entire sphere grid only thing i don't know about is the international content.

You go to some lengths to make yourself seem like quite the know-it-all, and try to discredit me with pointless lines like "if you don't know what you talking about". Well, guess what, I've also cleared the entire sphere grid, I've killed every boss in the battle arena, and I killed all the dark aeons and Penance in the international version! Ha! How's that make you feel? Not very nice, huh?! And you know what? Telling you that was completely unnecessary, nonproductive and pointless, and didn't help this thread one bit! It's much better to stick to the facts.

i didn't complain about the lightning bolts?!?
Have fun dodging 200 lightning bolts!!!
i will be playing a good RPG while you do that

Yes you did. And don't try to claim that the fact it's a trophy now makes the 200 lightning bolts an issue of the remaster and a cause of broken controllers. It was already needed for Lulu's celestial weapon, so people who want to do it will do it and others won't. Just. Like. Before. There has always been reason to do it.

Speaking of trophies, defeating Nemesis and Penance are also trophies now, which means that defeating them finally has at least some other reward besides being an ego boost.

I have no reason to post more music comparisons. The shortcomings of the OST remaster have already been discussed. If there are more failed songs you wish to point out, link them yourself.

EDIT: fix'd and added some stuff.
Last edited by Trehek; Mar 25, 2014 @ 3:56am
Shiny Mar 25, 2014 @ 8:53am 
Why are you people feeding the troll?
Trehek Mar 25, 2014 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Shiny:
Why are you people feeding the troll?

Because I'm having fun. A raging troll is an unsuccesful troll.
Dylonus Mar 26, 2014 @ 11:09pm 
To the OP... you realize the HD Remastered Edition for North America is a different version, right? It's the Internation Version... comes with some extra content, new skills and a completely different sphere grid....
Faint Mar 27, 2014 @ 1:33pm 
i would have bought it if all they did was make it widescreen.... and possibly changed Tidus' winny ass voice
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