Anyone else annoyed they changed Lara's face in Rise of the Tomb Raider?

[Forcy]

All was fine in Tomb Raider 2013, and now???? I actually like the Rise of the Tomb Raider a lot, but looking at that face really spoils the fun!!! Luckily it's most of the time a view of her buttocks that is offered!

The face has gone from this:
http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/tomb-raider-2013.jpg
http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rendertwyxw.jpg

To this:
http://postimg.org/image/88br670vn/
http://img.youtube.com/vi/TfsWY6SYwvU/0.jpg

Why Why Why :(

Saying that this look is more realistic or suiting her personality more or whatever, is nonsense! This is a game and a dream world anyway, and up until now we love Lara not least because she's pretty!


Btw: For all those who feel the same, try to use an outfit covering her face (e.g. Baba Yaga outfit) and you are all set.

[tm0Lif3]

HOW dare people mock short Lara as not a strong woman? Flat chested, chubby, short and average Jane looks means progresive and portrays how strong woman should be!. How dare you mock short Lara because midget can be strong too!.

All beautiful, curvy women you see in real life aren't realistic. This is how strong and progressive woman should be. #dealwithit

/s

[The Gut]

Lol get sum progressive gross women in your life pal.

tm0Lif3 の投稿を引用：

HOW dare people mock short Lara as not a strong woman? Flat chested, chubby, short and average Jane looks means progresive and portrays how strong woman should be!. How dare you mock short Lara because midget can be strong too!.

All beautiful, curvy women you see in real life aren't realistic. This is how strong and progressive woman should be. #dealwithit

/s

[ayrtep]

FWIW I prefere the RTR Lara to 2013 Lara, I think she looks more like a real person.

(Or maybe as I have just been playing MEA so anyone looks good!)

[Ninja Max!]

Sunwave の投稿を引用：

They are using the same face as a model. The previous one had less motion capture stuff on it, so it was a bit different from the actress' face. It was more plastic and "perfect" in an unnatural way. In Rise there is a better motion capture mask so it looks more like the actress' face.

If she looks less beautiful, it's because she's more real now.

I agree. The one in 2013 is perfect and sexy but looks like one of those in Anime. I bet younger gamers might prefer that version.

In ROTR, she looks more real and natural along with the imperfections. In general, I like the new one with better graphics. I still remember she had that desert tank top in Syria, when she came out of the water (all wet) to reach the prophet tomb. The camera showed her full body front and back. I was like,"hmm...she is hot and sexy."

The new Lara also look quite cute with some of her facial expressions. This is particulary after escaping from the Gulag prison with Jacob. They had this conversation on why Lara wanted the divine source. Cute as if she is real, not Anime cute.

[80TCS]

RotTR Lara looks miles better.

[Ninja Max!]

holychair の投稿を引用：

Sometimes I think something might be wrong with the current motion capture rigs too. There's screenshots where ROTR Lara indeed looks attractive, but others where the facial expressions look weird and remind me of what we get to see in Mass Effect: Andromeda.

That's a general thing too: Beauty is not only what can be captured in a still photo. It's also very much in how someone behaves, in their stance, expression, voice, articulation etc. It sometimes happens that I see someone and think "oh, she's beautiful" - and then it all goes "poof" when they begin to talk, gesture, move their facial muscles etc...

ME:A is so horrible. And I don't think Lara is like that. Sometimes I wonder if Bioware did this on purpose, to mock those ugly old witches. I am still very upset with the ME:A as I was a fan.

Yes, gesture and facial expressions are important in real life. Mature adults do pay attention to their gesture, wordings and expressions. If game makers want to make the characters look real, they too need to focus on these just as much as the looks.

[tm0Lif3]

Bioware thought they want to please the SJW crowd. Let's see how much money they get from those people who complain and doesn't buy game. I hope they failed hard. And we need to do the same to teach Crystal Dynamics. They want to please the SJW so you not getting a penny from me until it's 5 quid.

[Ninja Max!]

tm0Lif3 の投稿を引用：

Bioware thought they want to please the SJW crowd. Let's see how much money they get from those people who complain and doesn't buy game. I hope they failed hard. And we need to do the same to teach Crystal Dynamics. They want to please the SJW so you not getting a penny from me until it's 5 quid.

This is so sad. I was looking forward to play ME:A. But I believe it is not totally related to SJW. In fact, the game isn't ready for release. Now, I have to put this aside for another year and see how they are going to fix it.

[Lowernios]

I like the ROTTR Lara; I also think she looks much more real. But it was a shock going from TR2013 to ROTTR and finding a very different-looking face to the character I had got used to, that was far from ideal.

I think it is worth mentioning that there is an enormous difference between how her face looks on most graphics settings (= unnatural and "ugly") and on max graphics settings (= very gorgeous).

If you actually think she's ugly on max graphics, you have some seriously weird beauty standards - best stick to games and avoid the real world. Or, she's just not your type - which is not the same as ugly, is it...

[tm0Lif3]

mlowthue1 の投稿を引用：

tm0Lif3 の投稿を引用：

Bioware thought they want to please the SJW crowd. Let's see how much money they get from those people who complain and doesn't buy game. I hope they failed hard. And we need to do the same to teach Crystal Dynamics. They want to please the SJW so you not getting a penny from me until it's 5 quid.

This is so sad. I was looking forward to play ME:A. But I believe it is not totally related to SJW. In fact, the game isn't ready for release. Now, I have to put this aside for another year and see how they are going to fix it.

They are pleasing the SJWs. Female looks horrible like super ugly and they even shove transgender in your face till it actually feel inappropriate and uncomfortable to a real transgendered.

[ChickenBalls]

she actually looks better in the newer game.

[Ninja Max!]

tm0Lif3 の投稿を引用：

mlowthue1 の投稿を引用：

This is so sad. I was looking forward to play ME:A. But I believe it is not totally related to SJW. In fact, the game isn't ready for release. Now, I have to put this aside for another year and see how they are going to fix it.

They are pleasing the SJWs. Female looks horrible like super ugly and they even shove transgender in your face till it actually feel inappropriate and uncomfortable to a real transgendered.

That is the problem with ME:A. Sex scene that looks like chessy kiddie porn. They are trying to be liberal but they only create more problems that is not necessary. Remove the sex scene, stick with the adventure and there should be less social issues related to the game.

[☽⋆˖Nightbreed˖⋆☾]

I thought I was the only one annoyed by the face change. She looked hot in 2013 but in Rise she's a total butter face. ♥♥♥♥♥ got that dinner plate face from the early games goin on.

[Lowernios]

I have a GTX980, but can't use max settings because of the framerate drop and microstutters in the Soviet installation area. But which settings do you think are most pertinent for how the face looks?

I yesterday played Blood Ties and (because of the discussion here) I deliberately tried angles where I can see her face more up close. It didn't seem natural at all to me. There's too much complexion in her face at times, and the teeth (if visible) look sketchy. Also, if I just keep the game idling, she changes expressions several times and some of them look weird (reminding me of ME: Andromeda). Strangest thing, though: There ARE certain camera angles from which her face almost looks like the Lara from TR 2013, but you have to actively try to find those.

Afraid I can't tell you which settings are more significant here: I can't run it on max settings either, this is what I've gathered from watching clips other people have uploaded with stated max graphics - where her face does look pretty good in the sense of not too unnatural. On low graphics, which is what I have mostly played on, agreed that she looks very weird, especially her teeth/mouth...

I think this definitely is a legitimate criticism of the game: the graphics should scale better. I guess they thought the protagonist's face not looking incredibly weird was low priority... I just think it's important to distinguish between looking bad from a graphics perspective and looking bad in terms of a human's physical attractiveness: the way she's intended to look, i.e. on max graphics, she's definitely not ugly. I find that a very strange assertion. Someone earlier in the thread pointed out the improbability that any of us commenters were or were with anyone of comparable attractiveness in the real world, which I thought was a shrewd perspective...

And Jonah too!

To me this is even more of an issue, Jonah not only looks completely different but he has also had an unaccountable personality shift - if you go back and play TR again after Rise, it's painfully obvious that they are completely different characters. Would be fine for a remake, but Rise is supposed to be a sequel...

[Lowernios]

You could be forgiven for thinking it's not connected, but if you read all the documents it's clear it's a sequel - they explain why Sam isn't in the game and stuff like that...

They do also give you a bit of a sense of what Lara has been up to and why she is like she is - basically because of the way her psychotherapist was messing with her mind. I think it's just about believable - but I agree the end of TR2013 looked like it was setting up a rather different sequel. So much for "not going home," that's literally exactly what she did.