Rise of the Tomb Raider

Rise of the Tomb Raider

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H 4 Z E May 10, 2022 @ 4:47am
Game looks terrible
Is it me doing something wrong, or the game is supposed to look like ♥♥♥♥, at all maxed out?(excluding SMAA, its at x2)
LIke, the game looks very blurry, turning off bloom and blur in the setting doesnt solve it
then when the Benchmark gets to the geothermal valley, the image actually looks as if the game is rendered in 640x480 resolution or something like that AND is even blurrier

I've played the game on xbox one x a couple of years ago and it totally didn't look this bad on pretty much ANY setting be it performance, 4k, or quality mode
Specs are: Ryzen 3600, radeon 5500XT 8GB and 16 gigs of ram
the game is installed on an SSD if that even matters
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Ocelote.12 May 10, 2022 @ 7:32am 
In the launcher settings, before staring the game itself, in Display tab, is resolution scale slider set to 100%?

Because it's what this slider does, it lowers the rendered resolution while keeping physical resolution.
Last edited by Ocelote.12; May 10, 2022 @ 7:33am
H 4 Z E May 10, 2022 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Aleosha12:
In the launcher settings, before staring the game itself, in Display tab, is resolution scale slider set to 100%?

Because it's what this slider does, it lowers the rendered resolution while keeping physical resolution.
Just checked, yeah, it is
Also to note, im running the game in DX12, but ive checked it under DX11 and it runs almost 2x worse under DX11
And it certainly doesnt change anything about image quality, but other than that, i've tried different kinds of AA(FXAA instead of SMAA or even off) but it just doesnt change anything, the game still looks terrible
Shiro♌ May 10, 2022 @ 7:07pm 
It doesn't look so blurry to me.
I do believe, the blurry camera is caused by the weather and time of the day - Whenever it's snowing, it shall be more blurry than when it's a clear weather, and so on.

Geothermal Valley is, actually, one of the worst, if not the worst environments in the entire game;
Both, due to its optimization and containing unnecessary particles just as well as having most of the ground with pure dirt being rendered blurry and with no detail whatsoever.

The game's cheap for what it does offer, if you're patient and get it on sale, so I don't understand complaining about it.
H 4 Z E May 11, 2022 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
It doesn't look so blurry to me.
I do believe, the blurry camera is caused by the weather and time of the day - Whenever it's snowing, it shall be more blurry than when it's a clear weather, and so on.

Geothermal Valley is, actually, one of the worst, if not the worst environments in the entire game;
Both, due to its optimization and containing unnecessary particles just as well as having most of the ground with pure dirt being rendered blurry and with no detail whatsoever.

The game's cheap for what it does offer, if you're patient and get it on sale, so I don't understand complaining about it.
Literally read it again
I've stated that I've already played this game on console (xbox one x) and it didn't look nearly as bad, no matter what settings I've used on console(theres 3 options to pick from)
Shiro♌ May 11, 2022 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
It doesn't look so blurry to me.
I do believe, the blurry camera is caused by the weather and time of the day - Whenever it's snowing, it shall be more blurry than when it's a clear weather, and so on.

Geothermal Valley is, actually, one of the worst, if not the worst environments in the entire game;
Both, due to its optimization and containing unnecessary particles just as well as having most of the ground with pure dirt being rendered blurry and with no detail whatsoever.

The game's cheap for what it does offer, if you're patient and get it on sale, so I don't understand complaining about it.
Literally read it again
I've stated that I've already played this game on console (xbox one x) and it didn't look nearly as bad, no matter what settings I've used on console(theres 3 options to pick from)
Yes, I have read that.
Couldn't have your past experiences affected your current opinion?

I mean, there's no way, Xbox and console-alike stuff will be able to run games like Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on highest quality presets or other similar games, which are hard to run.
I do mean to ask, haven't you played some other games with really breathtaking graphics on PC already? That might be, why you do view or see ROTTR to have terrible graphics from your point of view.
H 4 Z E May 12, 2022 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
Literally read it again
I've stated that I've already played this game on console (xbox one x) and it didn't look nearly as bad, no matter what settings I've used on console(theres 3 options to pick from)
Yes, I have read that.
Couldn't have your past experiences affected your current opinion?

I mean, there's no way, Xbox and console-alike stuff will be able to run games like Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on highest quality presets or other similar games, which are hard to run.
I do mean to ask, haven't you played some other games with really breathtaking graphics on PC already? That might be, why you do view or see ROTTR to have terrible graphics from your point of view.
Stop assuming and work with the facts at hand
I do remember how the game looked on the console and the console DOES run it at 4k or higher settings but lower resolution, depending on what quality mode you choose, so what you're doing is just whataboutism, which clearly doesn't help me in any way nor does it solve the problem

I've googled even more and it seems to be just the way on the PC is, unless you're running it on Nvidia card in DSR, or on a high resolution display, the game is gonna look like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ due to the way they've handled AA in general + at some point they broke SMAA and they did not carry over the AA from the consoles, which explains why the hell it looks so bad

I'm gonna try forcing the AA in the radeon software, but all of this still doesn't explain blurry textures (specifically Lara's jacket in the beginning of the game)
H 4 Z E May 12, 2022 @ 4:23am 
Okay, forcing AA+AF+adding sharpness filter did improve thing, now it doesnt look god awful
Not great, but much better than it was.
Conclusion: the port is no doubt botched
Ocelote.12 May 12, 2022 @ 4:30am 
Can you post the screenshots? Before forcing AA+AF+adding sharpness and after?
Last edited by Ocelote.12; May 12, 2022 @ 4:31am
Shiro♌ May 13, 2022 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by ...:
game looks sharp for me, but i'm on nvidia. i did notice that enabling ssaa at x2 and x4 made game look blocky at some parts, but i leave it at smaa and it looks like this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807414035
I've just uploaded my two screenshots, and the game does look just as I'd have expected.
Do note, I can't run it on maximum details, so a few of them are a bit lowered.
I do have AMD hardwares, and my AMD settings do feature 80% sharpness, reduced Anti-Lag (I do doubt, this one does affect anything, though), multiple smoothing enabled (application can override it), standard texture filtering, enabled surface format optimization, mosaic optimized for AMD, and AMD FreeSync optimized for AMD (again, this one shall not affect graphics at all).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423355
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423378

The in-game settings are as following;
1920 x 1080
FXAA Anti-aliasing
DirectX 12, Exclusive Fullscreen

(High quality preset, but with Anisotropic 8x
High texture quality
Anisotropic 8x
High shadow quality
Enabled Sun Soft Shadows
Enabled Depth of Field
High Level Of Detail
Medium Dynamic Foliage
Enabled Ambiet Occlusion
Enabled PureHair
Normal Specular Reflection Quality

Enabled Vignette Blur
Enabled Motion Blur
Enabled Bloom
Enabled Tessellation
Enabled Screen Space Reflections

Enabled Lens Flares
Enabled Screen Effects
Enabled Film Grain
Last edited by Shiro♌; May 13, 2022 @ 1:45am
H 4 Z E May 13, 2022 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
Originally posted by ...:
game looks sharp for me, but i'm on nvidia. i did notice that enabling ssaa at x2 and x4 made game look blocky at some parts, but i leave it at smaa and it looks like this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807414035
I've just uploaded my two screenshots, and the game does look just as I'd have expected.
Do note, I can't run it on maximum details, so a few of them are a bit lowered.
I do have AMD hardwares, and my AMD settings do feature 80% sharpness, reduced Anti-Lag (I do doubt, this one does affect anything, though), multiple smoothing enabled (application can override it), standard texture filtering, enabled surface format optimization, mosaic optimized for AMD, and AMD FreeSync optimized for AMD (again, this one shall not affect graphics at all).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423355
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423378

The in-game settings are as following;
1920 x 1080
FXAA Anti-aliasing
DirectX 12, Exclusive Fullscreen

(High quality preset, but with Anisotropic 8x
High texture quality
Anisotropic 8x
High shadow quality
Enabled Sun Soft Shadows
Enabled Depth of Field
High Level Of Detail
Medium Dynamic Foliage
Enabled Ambiet Occlusion
Enabled PureHair
Normal Specular Reflection Quality

Enabled Vignette Blur
Enabled Motion Blur
Enabled Bloom
Enabled Tessellation
Enabled Screen Space Reflections

Enabled Lens Flares
Enabled Screen Effects
Enabled Film Grain
funnily enough, the person's you've quoted screenshots look better , but it might have something to do with the time of the day
as for your screenshots, they do look blurry, but i have sharpening at 90% and i've turned off the in-game AA and blur/bloom related settings while still keeping everything else maxed out.
Also disable the film grain, since i'm pretty positive it was one of the reasons behind the heavy pixelation in the geothermal valley
Overall, i'd say now my game doesn't look as blurry as yours, but i haven't even tried to actually play the game, i was basing everything off of a built in benchmark, possibly later today i'd post some comparisons

Other thing to note, there's literally 0 reason to have anisotropic filtering at anything below 16x, since it doesnt affect performance at all in pretty much any game, but visually does make quite a difference
As for freesync it wouldn't affect any game visually ever, it basically just syncs w/e frames you gpu outputting, with w/e your display wants to show (within w/e range your display has, most likely 45-75fps)
so naturally there was no reason to list it like you said
Shiro♌ May 13, 2022 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
I've just uploaded my two screenshots, and the game does look just as I'd have expected.
Do note, I can't run it on maximum details, so a few of them are a bit lowered.
I do have AMD hardwares, and my AMD settings do feature 80% sharpness, reduced Anti-Lag (I do doubt, this one does affect anything, though), multiple smoothing enabled (application can override it), standard texture filtering, enabled surface format optimization, mosaic optimized for AMD, and AMD FreeSync optimized for AMD (again, this one shall not affect graphics at all).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423355
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2807423378

The in-game settings are as following;
1920 x 1080
FXAA Anti-aliasing
DirectX 12, Exclusive Fullscreen

(High quality preset, but with Anisotropic 8x
High texture quality
Anisotropic 8x
High shadow quality
Enabled Sun Soft Shadows
Enabled Depth of Field
High Level Of Detail
Medium Dynamic Foliage
Enabled Ambiet Occlusion
Enabled PureHair
Normal Specular Reflection Quality

Enabled Vignette Blur
Enabled Motion Blur
Enabled Bloom
Enabled Tessellation
Enabled Screen Space Reflections

Enabled Lens Flares
Enabled Screen Effects
Enabled Film Grain
funnily enough, the person's you've quoted screenshots look better , but it might have something to do with the time of the day
as for your screenshots, they do look blurry, but i have sharpening at 90% and i've turned off the in-game AA and blur/bloom related settings while still keeping everything else maxed out.
Also disable the film grain, since i'm pretty positive it was one of the reasons behind the heavy pixelation in the geothermal valley
Overall, i'd say now my game doesn't look as blurry as yours, but i haven't even tried to actually play the game, i was basing everything off of a built in benchmark, possibly later today i'd post some comparisons

Other thing to note, there's literally 0 reason to have anisotropic filtering at anything below 16x, since it doesnt affect performance at all in pretty much any game, but visually does make quite a difference
As for freesync it wouldn't affect any game visually ever, it basically just syncs w/e frames you gpu outputting, with w/e your display wants to show (within w/e range your display has, most likely 45-75fps)
so naturally there was no reason to list it like you said
No, I don't believe, the time of the day does affect it. I'd say, it's because I don't have set up maximum details afterall.
I don't really know anything about IT, so I've decided to include all of the settings of my own.. Just in case.

Blur and Bloom shall increase the load on GPU and CPU, but shall also increase the details of lights and make objects blurry in distance, if I'm not mistaken.
As for Anisotropics, I've set it up to 8x, because I'm used to 8x from CS:GO.

I'm open up for discussing it.. But, I don't think, there'll be any benefit in it for you.
H 4 Z E May 13, 2022 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
funnily enough, the person's you've quoted screenshots look better , but it might have something to do with the time of the day
as for your screenshots, they do look blurry, but i have sharpening at 90% and i've turned off the in-game AA and blur/bloom related settings while still keeping everything else maxed out.
Also disable the film grain, since i'm pretty positive it was one of the reasons behind the heavy pixelation in the geothermal valley
Overall, i'd say now my game doesn't look as blurry as yours, but i haven't even tried to actually play the game, i was basing everything off of a built in benchmark, possibly later today i'd post some comparisons

Other thing to note, there's literally 0 reason to have anisotropic filtering at anything below 16x, since it doesnt affect performance at all in pretty much any game, but visually does make quite a difference
As for freesync it wouldn't affect any game visually ever, it basically just syncs w/e frames you gpu outputting, with w/e your display wants to show (within w/e range your display has, most likely 45-75fps)
so naturally there was no reason to list it like you said
No, I don't believe, the time of the day does affect it. I'd say, it's because I don't have set up maximum details afterall.
I don't really know anything about IT, so I've decided to include all of the settings of my own.. Just in case.

Blur and Bloom shall increase the load on GPU and CPU, but shall also increase the details of lights and make objects blurry in distance, if I'm not mistaken.
As for Anisotropics, I've set it up to 8x, because I'm used to 8x from CS:GO.

I'm open up for discussing it.. But, I don't think, there'll be any benefit in it for you.
Blur does literally what it does - blurs the image under certain conditions(depends on what type of blur is used in the game, it could be motion blur for all we know and would only be applied when you're turning the camera)
Bloom only makes bright light seem even brighter and thats pretty much it(well, it also extends the light onto the object edges a bit to create illusion of a very bright light)

Time of the day matters because the lighting is different, your settings surely matter but i wasn't comparing the image quality, just its clarity and to me it looks that his image is much clearer than yours

So, i dunno. Might be something AMD related, i really don't know why it does this.
Like, for example if apply the max SMAA setting all jagged edges should be eliminated, but i still have a lot of visual shimmer and these edges, which tells me that something is off
I dunno, might try reshade later
Philosopher May 15, 2022 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
funnily enough, the person's you've quoted screenshots look better , but it might have something to do with the time of the day
as for your screenshots, they do look blurry, but i have sharpening at 90% and i've turned off the in-game AA and blur/bloom related settings while still keeping everything else maxed out.
Also disable the film grain, since i'm pretty positive it was one of the reasons behind the heavy pixelation in the geothermal valley
Overall, i'd say now my game doesn't look as blurry as yours, but i haven't even tried to actually play the game, i was basing everything off of a built in benchmark, possibly later today i'd post some comparisons

Other thing to note, there's literally 0 reason to have anisotropic filtering at anything below 16x, since it doesnt affect performance at all in pretty much any game, but visually does make quite a difference
As for freesync it wouldn't affect any game visually ever, it basically just syncs w/e frames you gpu outputting, with w/e your display wants to show (within w/e range your display has, most likely 45-75fps)
so naturally there was no reason to list it like you said
No, I don't believe, the time of the day does affect it. I'd say, it's because I don't have set up maximum details afterall.
I don't really know anything about IT, so I've decided to include all of the settings of my own.. Just in case.

Blur and Bloom shall increase the load on GPU and CPU, but shall also increase the details of lights and make objects blurry in distance, if I'm not mistaken.
As for Anisotropics, I've set it up to 8x, because I'm used to 8x from CS:GO.

I'm open up for discussing it.. But, I don't think, there'll be any benefit in it for you.
Motion blur makes everything blurry every time you move and is one of the worst looking gaming technologies ever created. Always disable motion blur!
H 4 Z E May 15, 2022 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Philosopher:
Originally posted by Shiro♌:
No, I don't believe, the time of the day does affect it. I'd say, it's because I don't have set up maximum details afterall.
I don't really know anything about IT, so I've decided to include all of the settings of my own.. Just in case.

Blur and Bloom shall increase the load on GPU and CPU, but shall also increase the details of lights and make objects blurry in distance, if I'm not mistaken.
As for Anisotropics, I've set it up to 8x, because I'm used to 8x from CS:GO.

I'm open up for discussing it.. But, I don't think, there'll be any benefit in it for you.
Motion blur makes everything blurry every time you move and is one of the worst looking gaming technologies ever created. Always disable motion blur!
not always
it could also make only certain parts of the screen blurry while everything else is unaffected
Philosopher May 15, 2022 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by H 4 Z E:
Originally posted by Philosopher:
Motion blur makes everything blurry every time you move and is one of the worst looking gaming technologies ever created. Always disable motion blur!
not always
it could also make only certain parts of the screen blurry while everything else is unaffected
Yea but to my eyes it always makes the game look like s**t in all games which is why I always disable it. It can also give you a head ache.
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