Rise of the Tomb Raider

Rise of the Tomb Raider

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1650 Max Q barely playable
Trying to run this game at Medium preset and 1080p rez. A ton of short ♥♥♥♥♥ and never get staples 60fps. Any ideas? Latest drivers and i7 (9750 @ 2.6) 32gb of ram.
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HelenaEX2 Aug 4, 2021 @ 9:39pm 
1650 Max Q has a downgrade on performance to get better termperatures. I was about to buy the same until i notice the big difference on performance.

The 1650 Max Q sacrifice a lot of performance for low temperature. Is actually normal you dont get good FPS.

I had the GTX 1650 Ti i run this game on very high (except textures bc VRam) and an average of 55 fps. How i said before, i was about to buy a 1650 Max Q but the sacrifice is so huge for just 5-15°C.

The only thing you can do is low the resolution or details.
Quicksilver1663 Aug 5, 2021 @ 9:16am 
I have it set to medium...I know this game is not optimized well but other semi older titles play fairly well. The first Tomb Raider was stable at 1080/60 on high. I realize its an older title of course. I may try Metro 2033 Redux instead
Leon Aug 5, 2021 @ 9:23am 
I dont know if denuvo cause problems in performance but the framerate is unstable even with a desktop gtx970, i presume that your gpu is a mobile one right?
Leon Aug 5, 2021 @ 9:24am 
If so, sadly, prepare for even worst performance once you enter in the geometry valley zone.
Quicksilver1663 Aug 5, 2021 @ 10:05am 
Originally posted by Leon:
If so, sadly, prepare for even worst performance once you enter in the geometry valley zone.

Yeah its an Extreme Gen 2 from Lenovo. I did read about some areas in this game that even lag on much stronger rigs.
jR✰ Aug 5, 2021 @ 10:58am 
right
SIRSTARK Aug 5, 2021 @ 12:13pm 
IM ON 1660 SUPER 1440P 60FPS STABLE WITH CUSTOM HIGH SETTNGS
HelenaEX2 Aug 5, 2021 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by (FAF)Quicksilver1663:
I have it set to medium...I know this game is not optimized well but other semi older titles play fairly well. The first Tomb Raider was stable at 1080/60 on high. I realize its an older title of course. I may try Metro 2033 Redux instead
The game is not optimized for DX12. DX11 runs awesome. I had the GTX 1650 Ti and i can even run this game on 4k without issues (except that on very open areas like the valley i had 30 fps and the rest i got 45-60) but 1080p runs at 60 stable.

If you do a quick search you will see how much performance the Max Q exchange for cooling. The 1650 Max Q turbo is 1245 while that is the base frecuency on the 1650Ti and the turbo is 1485 on the 1650 Ti. PLust the 1650 Ti has DDR6 while the Max Q has DDR5 with an extra downed speed.

Just a quick comparative of speed from the 1650:

1650 Max Q reaches 79.68 G/Textels (DDR5 memory 128GB/s)
GTX 1650 reaches: 99.84 G/textels (DDR5 memory 128GB/s)

1650 Ti: reaches 95.04 G/textels (DDR6 memory 192 GB/s)

From the 3 GPU variants on laptop 1650 Max Q is the lowest variant you could get and that bc if you check on nvidia page the "Max Q variant" is focus to keep the laptop cool and to reduce temperatures you only had two options, increase the fan speeds or just reduce the hardware speeds what NVIDIA did on this GPU variant. They also mention the max q variant as "Discrete graphics" a word you will never see on a GPU 100% dedicated for gaming. Insted you will find "Dedicated graphics".

On a quick math calculation i got the Max q was about 15% slower than the rest but theres pages like this one: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1650-Max-Q-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.418763.0.html that says is actually a 25% slower. Thats the main reasson why i let pass a MSI with i7 and the Max Q GPU. If you laptop has a good cooling system (in the laptop case that is the vapor chamber) then you dont need to worry about temperatures. But Max Q is not so powerful as you think it is. Any other variant it is except this one.
HAKAN TÜRK ✪ Aug 5, 2021 @ 1:39pm 
:s
its normal guy
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