What is this game really all about?

[donnabright2002]

I mean serious, what is this game really about? I think it is about religion, except they have somethings back-words. The Trinity comes from God, not from kings. Also God is not a profit, he is the messiah. And Jesus aka God, conqured death, not a profit. I am going by a scroll I read from seeing some game play. Also God is not a lier as this game tends to say on a scroll something to that effect, or seems like that is what is is saying. If they meant something else, should of been more clear, even my friends are a bit confused. I love Tomb raider, ok, but this time has gone to far was violence, saying bad things about God, or sure seems that way, and a bunch of cussing. What happen to Lara Croft, she went way too far this time. I will still play the older Tomb raider and even up to TRU..But the last two games, something went weird, well for myself speaking.

[Cataleya22 (⁠ᵔ⁠ᴥ⁠ᵔ)]

OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eab_KtOTynM

[Zeke45]

<necro>

Originally posted by Jac:

There's a definite parallel with the mythos in the game and the Christian mythology...

Christian faith.

Fixed it.

I'll take the OP's word for it. This game sounds like another ungodly mess, like so much of the up-is-down, demon-embracing, noisome, spiritually dead crapola put out by far too many devs these days, devs whom I can't help but picture as troglodytic worm-like goth throwbacks hunching over their workstations with a twisted grimace, thinking they're the epitome of "edginess."

To avoid.

I find OP's observation / claim particularly veracious given the weirdly morbid tone of the 2013 reboot. This dev has issues.

</necro>

PS -- the necro isn't all that egregious given the date for the glib, benighted specimen posting above me.

[Kaggy]

Originally posted by donnabright2002:

I mean serious, what is this game really about?

I did not want to be that guy, but this game is all about raiding ancient tombs.
How could you take this seriously, the game has evil soviet military installation complete with gulag and statue of Lenin in the middle of.. somewhere (it states Siberia, but it's a big place, and I'm not sure if there is any mountains like in the game, so the setting feels kind of like "soviet jungle" in Metal Gear Solid 3 - entertaining nonsense, but MGS3 at least did a little research on the subject), it has indigenous people who was supposedly in isolation for centuries but speak perfect english anyway, and there were also damn mongolians involved somehow. It's corny in so many ways, I couldn't help but like it.

[KM89]

Jesus was an alcoholic if you could turn water into wine, you would be too.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally posted by Shrek 2 on ice:

Originally posted by donnabright2002:

I mean serious, what is this game really about? I think it is about religion, except they have somethings back-words. The Trinity comes from God, not from kings. Also God is not a profit, he is the messiah. And Jesus aka God, conqured death, not a profit. I am going by a scroll I read from seeing some game play. Also God is not a lier as this game tends to say on a scroll something to that effect, or seems like that is what is is saying. If they meant something else, should of been more clear, even my friends are a bit confused. I love Tomb raider, ok, but this time has gone to far was violence, saying bad things about God, or sure seems that way, and a bunch of cussing. What happen to Lara Croft, she went way too far this time. I will still play the older Tomb raider and even up to TRU..But the last two games, something went weird, well for myself speaking.

Jesus is the son of God made flesh unto man to purge mankind from the original sin. Jesus is not God, he was just a man. Jesus was a prophet to God. God is not the Messiah. A Messiah is a leader of a group or religion who speaks the word of that religion, The King of Man. The Messiah was Jesus. God and Jesus are not one and the same. Jesus didn't conquer death. He died. He was resurrected, he died fully, then was brought back. If he conquered death then there would be no resurrection, he would have just healed from his wounds on the cross walked off turned a lake to wine and peaced out. He died, God said "It is done" and Jesus was given eternal life, which doesn't mean he was given immortality and God let him roam the earth undead. He was given passage into heaven.

This is basic knowledge and you're trying to apply something you already have trouble grasping with tid bits of gameplay and reading a scroll or two through someone else playing.

erm... it is basic knowledge that Jesus is indeed God.

completely out of context from this thread but, in the Bible, Jesus Himself says "Before Abraham was born, I am". "I am" was the name that God gave to Moses in the burning bush. He said to Moses "Tell the people that I AM sent you". "I am" was the name that God had. Jesus calling Himself "I am" means He is God. This is point 1.
Point 2, "Him who has seen me has seen the Father". In the Holy Trinity, the Father and the Son are both God, as well as the Holy Spirit.
Point 3, "I and the Father are one".
So many more.

Jesus is God.

[2Team2Fortress]

I agree. Religion should be about god, not profit.

[Gazzza]

Originally posted by Shrek 2 on ice:

Literal WARS were fought over which denomination is "best" and most "true."

"were"? Still are being,
Protestant vs Catholic in Northern Ireland - quiet at the moment, but could return.
Sunni vs Shia.
The children of Isaac vs the children of Ishmael.

Whichever of these ancient stories you believe are true (if any), the storyline in a video game is definitively and categorically fiction. It uses tropes from many traditions across the trilogy, in the way that Tolkein used ancient lore of dwarves and elves in his stories - to set a scene and a mood, to share a cultural reference with the audience.
Trinity is probably a distorted, possibly alternate-universe version of the Catholic Church. But no more than Star Trek's Federation is a version of the United Nations.

TL;DR - it's a game. Don't read too much into it.

[Shrek 2 On DVD]

Originally posted by Gazzza:

TL;DR - it's a game. Don't read too much into it.

Point to where I read too much into it. Did you just read that sentence? Did you look thru the 2 page thread for context?

It looks like you didn't read WHO and WHAT i was replying to. If you saw the context you'd know your "addition" is unnecessary, because at no point did I "read too much into it."

Point to where I talked about anything in the game.

[Gazzza]

Originally posted by Shrek 2 on ice:

Point to where I read too much into it.

Sorry, I was actually supporting your point. The closing remark is aimed at those who are trying to impose their real-world belief system on a computer game series that features soul transference, immortality, witchcraft and more, not to mention thousand-year-old machinery that still somehow works and instant healing of bullet wounds.

[GingerWitch]

It is written: "Ignore this thread for 6 months, and it shall arise again!"

[Archie]

You should read about gnosticism. There's a lot of game playing around it.

[moncouer9]

Originally posted by Shrek 2 on ice:

Originally posted by donnabright2002:

I mean serious, what is this game really about? I think it is about religion, except they have somethings back-words. The Trinity comes from God, not from kings. Also God is not a profit, he is the messiah. And Jesus aka God, conqured death, not a profit. I am going by a scroll I read from seeing some game play. Also God is not a lier as this game tends to say on a scroll something to that effect, or seems like that is what is is saying. If they meant something else, should of been more clear, even my friends are a bit confused. I love Tomb raider, ok, but this time has gone to far was violence, saying bad things about God, or sure seems that way, and a bunch of cussing. What happen to Lara Croft, she went way too far this time. I will still play the older Tomb raider and even up to TRU..But the last two games, something went weird, well for myself speaking.

Jesus is the son of God made flesh unto man to purge mankind from the original sin. Jesus is not God, he was just a man. Jesus was a prophet to God. God is not the Messiah. A Messiah is a leader of a group or religion who speaks the word of that religion, The King of Man. The Messiah was Jesus. God and Jesus are not one and the same. Jesus didn't conquer death. He died. He was resurrected, he died fully, then was brought back. If he conquered death then there would be no resurrection, he would have just healed from his wounds on the cross walked off turned a lake to wine and peaced out. He died, God said "It is done" and Jesus was given eternal life, which doesn't mean he was given immortality and God let him roam the earth undead. He was given passage into heaven.

This is basic knowledge and you're trying to apply something you already have trouble grasping with tid bits of gameplay and reading a scroll or two through someone else playing.

John 14:8-12
John 10:30
John 1..to verse 18..
1 John 5:7
Just a few verses...peace

[Shrek 2 On DVD]

Originally posted by moncouer9:

John 14:8-12
John 10:30
John 1..to verse 18..
1 John 5:7
Just a few verses...peace

Religion doesn't exist. It's all made up. You can read a book all you want. There's over 3000 deities around the world. If 1 one them isn't real they all aren't.

A person brought up in Christianity, believes the same thing a Muslim, Taoist, Buddist believe. That is that their religion is the right one. If you believe your religion is the right one, you believe all others aren't real. Hold whatever you'd like to hold but I don't ascribe to a dude in the clouds who does nothing and will punish me for almost anything.

In Christianity you sin every day.

Do you value your phone? sin.
Have you looked at anyone and thought anything inappropriate? sin.
Do you have a good feeling when you do something nice? sin.
Do you do anything your parents don't approve of? sin.
Get impatient while driving? sin.
Mixed fabrics? sin.
Shellfish is detestible. sin.

Everyday you have to be in fear of wrath and of a sky daddy who indirectly tells you what to do. Notice how no one hears the voice of God anymore? Joan of arc, Elijah, Ezekiel, Moses.

If you hear god in this day in age, you'd be considered a lunatic. Religion is a pass-time of the old ages. I don't need a book to tell me how to be nice to my neighbor.

YOU do.

[dziewucha]

square enix puts zero thought into their games, don't worry about it

[=Palynzer=]

ROFL, 2024 and some still don't know what fiction is?... and they still believe in fairy tales... this is too much, Planet of the Apes at its finest.