Oh God not the Oryx 16 bit fantasy tileset again.

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

Draw your own sprites- stand out from the crowd.

[Descending Minor Key Line Cliche]

Hate to say it but I agree. As soon as I see that knight guy I've seen 1,000 times I start losing interest pretty fast. I understand art is super expensive, though.

[Nasty Peep]

If the dev is new to game development, and this is one of their first games, as long as it manages to be fun, I don't see why that matters.

[Lethrblaka]

Originally posted by Swim:

If the dev is new to game development, and this is one of their first games, as long as it manages to be fun, I don't see why that matters.

Well, for my part, I don't want to find any art that could be somewhere else (except for Easter eggs or such) because it removes part of the atmosphere and because the originality takes a serious hit. So I probably will not buy this game—not right now, at least. But if I hear something about it in some other place, I will reconsider it.

I'd rather have "bad" basic art (because I understand that not everyone is able to make things look great) than stuff "randomly" found on the Internet.

[Imban]

It's not really "random" since the tileset is designed to fit together, so everything looks like it belongs. It just means it looks like several other games.

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

It's an interesting game. I was going to redraw the sprites but they are tucked away in some data file rather than being "loose" so I can't get at them easily.

[Clewcat Games]

This is my first game so I chose the tileset I really love as the start. I did draw the big bosses, weapons and relic items myself actually. For my second game Axe Bow & Staff, the pixel art is original. If you like it, please vote and help it get on Steam :)

[El Mythical 23 k.s.c.]

"because it removes part of the atmosphere and because the originality takes a serious hit." Your just rewarding the first person to use this art pack. I own quest of dungeon but i'm still interested in this agme see thier take on a turn based.

[Lethrblaka]

Originally posted by El myth 23 k.s.c.:

"because it removes part of the atmosphere and because the originality takes a serious hit." Your just rewarding the first person to use this art pack. I own quest of dungeon but i'm still interested in this agme see thier take on a turn based.

No, I'm just rewarding those who use original (in the sense of "new") art. No two games should look the same except for sequels (for obvious reasons), in my opinion.

And I don't care if you're the first one to use a pack, my opinion will still be: make your own art or ask/hire someone who is competent enough to make art.

[El Mythical 23 k.s.c.]

Well i am more interested in gameplay and don't see the point in not buying a game becuase it uses same art as another game. You might hate the Titan series, from PuppyGames, since they are 5 completely different games made by the same studio with all the same art.You'll probably say no b/c its original art, though which i don't think is valid argument. Your grip as stands is that you've already played a game where someone unoriginally used this free art and now you are taking issue with everyone else trying to use the same art.

I argue that its game play that matters and simply not realizing the first game you played was free art and now bashing other programmers for using the same art, is kinda lame. I haven't bought this game yet either, on wishlist. Don't possibly miss out on a good game becuase this guy isn't an artist or no money to pay for art.

Finding an artist is hard work, those people love to work but seem to think what they have is always a gold mine. And nobody can touch it till they pay the price. I digress.

[Lethrblaka]

Originally posted by El myth 23 k.s.c.:

Well i am more interested in gameplay and don't see the point in not buying a game becuase it uses same art as another game. You might hate the Titan series, from PuppyGames, since they are 5 completely different games made by the same studio with all the same art.You'll probably say no b/c its original art, though which i don't think is valid argument. Your grip as stands is that you've already played a game where someone unoriginally used this free art and now you are taking issue with everyone else trying to use the same art.

I am, too, more interested in gameplay than art style but I don't want it to deter me from enjoying the game, either.

There is no problem with the Titan series because, as you said, there were made by the same developers, Puppy Games. And since they all share a similar background, they kind of are of the same IP.

And no, I don't think I've ever played a game with that tile set because I tend to stay away from those games. But still, it is on my wishlist (true, I have a lot of games on my wishlist, it's to keep an eye on them).

[eric_cy]

i don't see why it matters as long as it is a great game

[YuraConst]

Let me say it nice and clear: I lose interest faster if I see the EIGHT bit tileset, which is the Mad God tileset. Some of the crawlers (both straight and rogue) on here have emerged from competitions where an Oryx license is one of the provisions made to all developers. Mad God itself emerged from one such competition with Oryx tiles.

[YuraConst]

Oryx also made tilesets for Rogue/Brogue, as well as FAMAZE - a demo game here on Steam.

[SuperTim]

I don't really see a problem with these tiles, they look fine and is free to use.

There are other Tower of the Sorcerer clones on Steam, and they are much more pricier than this one, but with other graphics.

Your money, your choice. No one here have a problem if you want to spend much more, to be honest.

I think the game is a great value for money, especially during sales. But there are other choices.

[YuraConst]

Oryx sets are NOT free to use, Tim. They are PAID tile sets, SOME are provided for free to competition entrants.