abyssal forge boss?

[Lord Lovius]

anyone else having trouble with this guy? I'm only on normal and I already beat the world of the dead but trying to beat this boss is driving me crazy. I have a summoning build and I just can't do enough damage plus he shoots so much fire that I can't avoid them. advice?

[Neocronic]

Try use scythes or secondary weapon with high life steal bonus. My scythes with 45% life and 40% wrath steal. Claws with 85% life steal. I'm beat all bosses on last difficulty NG+ without any skills, only weapon attacks.

[Crit]

Dodge, dodge, dodge. keep your distance. when he throws the flame balls dodge to right or left all the way. when he summons the explosive spiders do the front + alt + scythes move, if you have normal damage you should kill each of them in one hit from this, but there are some who will escape that move. do you have a heavy weapon like a hammer or something as second weapon? you should.

[Lord Lovius]

Originally posted by Faux:

Dodge, dodge, dodge. keep your distance. when he throws the flame balls dodge to right or left all the way. when he summons the explosive spiders do the front + alt + scythes move, if you have normal damage you should kill each of them in one hit from this, but there are some who will escape that move. do you have a heavy weapon like a hammer or something as second weapon? you should.

the problem i was having was that the dodging is hard to do because the camera follows right behind you and ineveitebly you end up dodging straight into a pillar of fire or exploding bug. Also the forward scythe move was not strong enough either because I was playing it at too low a level or because I was using a necromancer build

Originally posted by Neocronic:

Try use scythes or secondary weapon with high life steal bonus. My scythes with 45% life and 40% wrath steal. Claws with 85% life steal. I'm beat all bosses on last difficulty NG+ without any skills, only weapon attacks.

They give you the ability to enter the abyssal forge waaaay before you should have access to any wrath/steal abilities on your weapons. I was around 18 or so and you don't even get wrath steal items until 20 and health steal until around 22.

Basically I think that the camera was the biggest issue they should have pulled it out a bit like the boss of land of the dead. Also the fact that his pattern is random so hitting him can be once every minute or once every five.

[Neocronic]

Originally posted by Lord Lovius:

They give you the ability to enter the abyssal forge waaaay before you should have access to any wrath/steal abilities on your weapons. I was around 18 or so and you don't even get wrath steal items until 20 and health steal until around 22.

Basically I think that the camera was the biggest issue they should have pulled it out a bit like the boss of land of the dead. Also the fact that his pattern is random so hitting him can be once every minute or once every five.

I'm enter in dlc after lvl up to 30 for lvl 30 weapons from dlc. Just skip this dlc and go in NG+

[Crit]

Originally posted by Lord Lovius:

Originally posted by Faux:

Dodge, dodge, dodge. keep your distance. when he throws the flame balls dodge to right or left all the way. when he summons the explosive spiders do the front + alt + scythes move, if you have normal damage you should kill each of them in one hit from this, but there are some who will escape that move. do you have a heavy weapon like a hammer or something as second weapon? you should.

the problem i was having was that the dodging is hard to do because the camera follows right behind you and ineveitebly you end up dodging straight into a pillar of fire or exploding bug. Also the forward scythe move was not strong enough either because I was playing it at too low a level or because I was using a necromancer build

Originally posted by Neocronic:

Try use scythes or secondary weapon with high life steal bonus. My scythes with 45% life and 40% wrath steal. Claws with 85% life steal. I'm beat all bosses on last difficulty NG+ without any skills, only weapon attacks.

They give you the ability to enter the abyssal forge waaaay before you should have access to any wrath/steal abilities on your weapons. I was around 18 or so and you don't even get wrath steal items until 20 and health steal until around 22.

Basically I think that the camera was the biggest issue they should have pulled it out a bit like the boss of land of the dead. Also the fact that his pattern is random so hitting him can be once every minute or once every five.

I did it at level 22, yesterday to be precise. you need to learn how he moves as to know when to dodge and when to jump. if he moves both his hands or one of his hands up, he will smash them and you have to jump, if has his head up he will most likely do the fireball attack, if he moves his hands down, either he will send explosive bugs or get into that rage animation when you can attack him.
what DPS do you have for scytes? about 1,5k should be ok.

[Lord Lovius]

Originally posted by Faux:

I did it at level 22, yesterday to be precise. you need to learn how he moves as to know when to dodge and when to jump. if he moves both his hands or one of his hands up, he will smash them and you have to jump, if has his head up he will most likely do the fireball attack, if he moves his hands down, either he will send explosive bugs or get into that rage animation when you can attack him.
what DPS do you have for scytes? about 1,5k should be ok.

The camera angle near the end of the fight ends up being behind alot of flame pillars so it can be hard to even see the boss not to mention the exploding bugs. Also the speed that the flame waves travel varies so it's a bit frustrating to time the jumps/dodges.

I understand how being at level 22 would work but if that's the expected level they should make it not unlock until the end of the game which is about when I hit level 22 (and that was with the extra experience I gained from doing the entire Abyssal Forge campaign)

[Crit]

Originally posted by Lord Lovius:

Originally posted by Faux:

I did it at level 22, yesterday to be precise. you need to learn how he moves as to know when to dodge and when to jump. if he moves both his hands or one of his hands up, he will smash them and you have to jump, if has his head up he will most likely do the fireball attack, if he moves his hands down, either he will send explosive bugs or get into that rage animation when you can attack him.
what DPS do you have for scytes? about 1,5k should be ok.

The camera angle near the end of the fight ends up being behind alot of flame pillars so it can be hard to even see the boss not to mention the exploding bugs. Also the speed that the flame waves travel varies so it's a bit frustrating to time the jumps/dodges.

I understand how being at level 22 would work but if that's the expected level they should make it not unlock until the end of the game which is about when I hit level 22 (and that was with the extra experience I gained from doing the entire Abyssal Forge campaign)

There's no expected level, the DLC content is leveled. If you had probems about damage, you might need to up your gear a bit. use a crit/str build with health steal.

[Lord Lovius]

Originally posted by Faux:

There's no expected level, the DLC content is leveled. If you had probems about damage, you might need to up your gear a bit. use a crit/str build with health steal.

and why does it make sense that the game should be balanced based off the levels of a strength based character. Also as I mentioned you can't get any health based weapons until you hit around level 22

also while there is a magic skill that can replenish health it is much later in the tree than the physical one and it also only works when you can hit the enemies and getting the birds to hit the bugs is a pain because it requires you standing still and the boss will wail on you

[Crit]

Originally posted by Lord Lovius:

Originally posted by Faux:

There's no expected level, the DLC content is leveled. If you had probems about damage, you might need to up your gear a bit. use a crit/str build with health steal.

and why does it make sense that the game should be balanced based off the levels of a strength based character. Also as I mentioned you can't get any health based weapons until you hit around level 22

also while there is a magic skill that can replenish health it is much later in the tree than the physical one and it also only works when you can hit the enemies and getting the birds to hit the bugs is a pain because it requires you standing still and the boss will wail on you

Neither do I have health steal weapons yet, but I use crit chance and health per crit as a substitute until I get some. The DLC is leveled to your level, not your strength, otherwise it'd all be the same.