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Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:45
Maniac Mansion Easter Egg
Ok so it should be known amongst the fan base by now that the Easter Egg is still there and not only is the hamster/microwave action in game, there is an achievement for doing it.

Different topic however, I am less surprised about that revelation than I am that the game still references Pepsi as it did in 1987. Curious, is it an oversight? Maybe I am wrong but for a game to be redone 29 years later with that product placement seems to be an oversight (yes, I know the Easter egg wasn't remastered but all the same it could be edited if the license timeframe ended).

Opinions?
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VasSerMan7 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 12:59 
The entire Maniac Manision is in it?
MorningLightMountain 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:00 
引用自 VasSerMan7
The entire Maniac Manision is in it?

Just like the original.
Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:12 
Chef
Cook the hamster in Maniac Mansion (Don't try this at home, kids!)

One of the two secret achieves in the Maniac Mansion portion of the game
最後修改者:Wock73; 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:24
MorningLightMountain 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 Wock73
Chef
Cook the hamster in Maniac Mansion (Don't try this at home, kids!)

One of the many secret achieves in the Maniac Mansion portion of the game

Aside from launching it that is the only other achievement for Maniac Mansion.
Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 1:25 
引用自 Wock73
Chef
Cook the hamster in Maniac Mansion (Don't try this at home, kids!)

One of the many secret achieves in the Maniac Mansion portion of the game

Aside from launching it that is the only other achievement for Maniac Mansion.

Thanks for the correction, edited post in question
Mid-Forever 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 2:14 
引用自 Wock73
Different topic however, I am less surprised about that revelation than I am that the game still references Pepsi as it did in 1987. Curious, is it an oversight? Maybe I am wrong but for a game to be redone 29 years later with that product placement seems to be an oversight (yes, I know the Easter egg wasn't remastered but all the same it could be edited if the license timeframe ended).

Opinions?
Why surprised? It's still the 3rd most purchased soft drink, maybe the 2nd again now.
Are you thinking Red Bull or Monster, or some Starbucks thing instead? All far behind Pepsi in sales, which equals less recognizable and less likely to be understood. In fact, the Pepsi logos make it a nice throwback reference, to a time when we wern't inundated with off the shelf beverage choices.

I guess it could have been something healthier like V8 (or some gluten free drink for the hipsters), but why? You're cooking a hamster, for goodness sakes...I think political correctness went out the door already.
(besides, fruit drinks are already in the game, and can be used instead...so I'll say the Pepsi is adding 'variety')

Maybe you want somethig edgier, like a PBR, Bud, Corona? Maybe change the cigar to marijuana, too? Yeah, let's not, thanks.

Or could you be questioning product placement at all? What, did I miss a memo that that was not done anymore...did I imagine all those Apple iPads, iPhones and Airs on so many TV shows recently?

Edit: Reminding myself a bit more about it, the Pepsi thing has a bit of historical value, as it was the *first* product plaement ad in a video game.
最後修改者:Mid-Forever; 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 2:40
Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:39 
引用自 Mid-Forever
引用自 Wock73
Different topic however, I am less surprised about that revelation than I am that the game still references Pepsi as it did in 1987. Curious, is it an oversight? Maybe I am wrong but for a game to be redone 29 years later with that product placement seems to be an oversight (yes, I know the Easter egg wasn't remastered but all the same it could be edited if the license timeframe ended).

Opinions?
Why surprised? It's still the 3rd most purchased soft drink, maybe the 2nd again now.
Are you thinking Red Bull or Monster, or some Starbucks thing instead? All far behind Pepsi in sales, which equals less recognizable and less likely to be understood. In fact, the Pepsi logos make it a nice throwback reference, to a time when we wern't inundated with off the shelf beverage choices.

I guess it could have been something healthier like V8 (or some gluten free drink for the hipsters), but why? You're cooking a hamster, for goodness sakes...I think political correctness went out the door already.
(besides, fruit drinks are already in the game, and can be used instead...so I'll say the Pepsi is adding 'variety')

Maybe you want somethig edgier, like a PBR, Bud, Corona? Maybe change the cigar to marijuana, too? Yeah, let's not, thanks.

Or could you be questioning product placement at all? What, did I miss a memo that that was not done anymore...did I imagine all those Apple iPads, iPhones and Airs on so many TV shows recently?

Edit: Reminding myself a bit more about it, the Pepsi thing has a bit of historical value, as it was the *first* product plaement ad in a video game.


Actually you are way off on all of your points as far as the topic is concerned. My claim of this being an oversight was in the legal context, nothing else. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Merc 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:48 
It would be weird if a sequel made 20+ years made the same reference (although not if it was referencing the first one), but this is a remaster. A remaster of a movie shouldn't edit the original content (although no one mentioned this to George Lucas apparently), it should just be a better quality version. If you're going to change that joke, you might as well rewrite a bunch of other lines as well, but then it wouldn't be classic DOTT anymore.

I definitely don't think it was an oversight, I think it was keeping this version as true to the source as possible, which is the right choice. One of the big problem with product placement, or even the use of technology in a game/movie/tv show, is that it dates the end product and makes it just a little less relatable years later. But that's not Double Fine's problem to solve.
Mid-Forever 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:48 
引用自 Wock73
引用自 Mid-Forever
Why surprised? It's still the 3rd most purchased soft drink, maybe the 2nd again now.
Are you thinking Red Bull or Monster, or some Starbucks thing instead? All far behind Pepsi in sales, which equals less recognizable and less likely to be understood. In fact, the Pepsi logos make it a nice throwback reference, to a time when we wern't inundated with off the shelf beverage choices.

I guess it could have been something healthier like V8 (or some gluten free drink for the hipsters), but why? You're cooking a hamster, for goodness sakes...I think political correctness went out the door already.
(besides, fruit drinks are already in the game, and can be used instead...so I'll say the Pepsi is adding 'variety')

Maybe you want somethig edgier, like a PBR, Bud, Corona? Maybe change the cigar to marijuana, too? Yeah, let's not, thanks.

Or could you be questioning product placement at all? What, did I miss a memo that that was not done anymore...did I imagine all those Apple iPads, iPhones and Airs on so many TV shows recently?

Edit: Reminding myself a bit more about it, the Pepsi thing has a bit of historical value, as it was the *first* product plaement ad in a video game.


Actually you are way off on all of your points as far as the topic is concerned. My claim of this being an oversight was in the legal context, nothing else. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Oh, well than that's really easy. As Disney just signed a contract with Pepsi to offer only their products (not Coke's) at all US DisneyLand locations, even if there *was* a license issue, I doubt Pepsi would question it/bring it up since during (re?) production of the game, they were still negotiating the contract. Big coup for Pepsi.

Yes, I'm considering that Disney isn't *really* involved in this, but they did have to give permission to revisit it and again, I don't think Pepsi would have wanted to question anything that might have remotely hindered a billion dollar deal at the time (or even now).

...but who knows...I'm just talking out of my ear cause I'm bored. *shrug*

Edit: Shpeeling Corektians!
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Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:56 
引用自 MUBI Merc
It would be weird if a sequel made 20+ years made the same reference (although not if it was referencing the first one), but this is a remaster. A remaster of a movie shouldn't edit the original content (although no one mentioned this to George Lucas apparently), it should just be a better quality version. If you're going to change that joke, you might as well rewrite a bunch of other lines as well, but then it wouldn't be classic DOTT anymore.

I definitely don't think it was an oversight, I think it was keeping this version as true to the source as possible, which is the right choice. One of the big problem with product placement, or even the use of technology in a game/movie/tv show, is that it dates the end product and makes it just a little less relatable years later. But that's not Double Fine's problem to solve.

Fair enough, though I know some older Nintendo games released on later systems via Virtual Console made changes of the same ilk. The top example that comes to mind is Wave Race 64 using Kawasaki product placement. A decade plus later the game was re-released with all references of Kawasaki removed and replaced by Nintendo DS ads (ironically, when the original Wave Race 64 came out, Nintendo DS didn't exist).

I was thinking of something along those lines as the two seem similar to me.

引用自 Mid-Forever
Oh, well than that's really easy. As Disney just signed a contract with Pepsi to offer only their products (not Coke's) at all US DisneyLand locations, even if there *was* a license issue, I doubt Pepsi would question it/bring it up since during (re?) production of the game, they were still negotiating the contract. Big coup for Pepsi.

I agree, the reply I made above to MUBI Merc better illustrated my line of thought but I understand where you both are coming from,
最後修改者:Wock73; 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:02
Mid-Forever 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 4:59 
You know, this all reminds me of of Mike Tyson's Punch Out (which later became just "Punch Out"). While not quite the same, just got me thinking about it.
Wock73 2016 年 3 月 23 日 下午 5:09 
引用自 Mid-Forever
You know, this all reminds me of of Mike Tyson's Punch Out (which later became just "Punch Out"). While not quite the same, just got me thinking about it.

That was another one I thought about too, his brand was only for contract for I think 5-7 years in the event a remake was made then the edit would have to happen, IIRC Nintendo killed the contract due to a domestic dispute with his girlfriend. While Pepsi hasn't done anything to get bad press that I know of, I just considered two different development companies (albeit with some of the same developers) either had the same license or it was an oversight, it was easier for me to think the latter but I fully agree that this is a coup for Pepsi and Double Fine and if it was in fact intentional then good for Double Fine to keep it real for old and new fans (however, the easter egg in the original DOTT isn't the same as the one in the Remaster - the 1993 original used the 1987 C64 and the Remaster used the 1988 MS DOS (the better of the two)
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