Scrap Mechanic

Scrap Mechanic

Computer Breaking Bugs
I’ve been starting to get the hang of survival, and have finally been able to survive for more than an hour, but I have two glitches that have been an absolute nightmare to deal with.

1. Blue screens: so many blue screens. I have no idea why they’re happening or how to stop them, but I continually get a blue screen after every hour in the game. I’ll just be driving in my brand new car down the road, and then suddenly it disappears, then all the textures disappear, then the game freezes, and after a little while I blue screen. I’ve blue screened over 15 times at this point, and I’m going on the low side. Nobody else I know is having this issue, so if anyone could help I would be happy to take any advice.

2. Unplayable multiplayer: I have very bad internet, but that doesn’t mean I’ve ever been restricted from playing with people in my own home. I’ve tried and tried, but either the game connects, and everything has a 5 second lag, and all physics perpetually jump around. I have no vacuum pipes, and have been starting a new map each time, but still I have terrible lag that renders the game unplayable. Before the update this game ran absolutely fine on our garbage internet when we played together, but now we can’t even play creative.

Laptop Specs:

NVidia Gtx 950m

intel Core i7-6700HQ

8GB RAM

465 GB SSD 303 GB Available (166 GB HDD: 9.9 GB available: not used by game)

Any Help would be appreciated Greatly

EDIT 1: I think that the issue may be a RAM error, which causes only 3GB to be used (I figured this out through adding up the usage in my task manager, which equaled ~1400 MB and was using 48%, which added up to ~2800 MB being 96%) I will be getting RAM soon, and if that fixes the issue I'll update it here.

EDIT 2: I'll also try getting the newest drivers for my GPU

EDIT 3: If none of these things work I'll reinstall my game
Last edited by Da Purp'l Perpetrator; May 21, 2020 @ 11:32am
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HarmfulEffect May 17, 2020 @ 5:42pm 
I am with you. i was about to post about this when i decided to be a good member of society and search. Here is what i was going to post:

I have tons of video/cpu intensive games and not once in three years has my computer crashed to BSOD. Now that I am at the stage where my base is rather large and and near the packing station, the game crashes and PC BSODs. No other crashes in any other games or video rendering software. Only in Scrap Mechanic. Has anyone else experienced this?
May 18, 2020 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by HarmfulEffect:
Has anyone else experienced this?
Yes. Ever since the latest update, trying to play the game is causing crashes as though the gpu was dying, requiring the computer to be reset. I've tried rolling back to old drivers and the same issue persists. Grand Theft Auto 5 with max settings doesn't even reproduce these crashes and that game is a house fire of poor optimisation. Whatever the devs have done, I hope they undo it soon while addressing other game breaking bugs with another patch.
Four years to test this. Four years. Good god.
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NizI May 18, 2020 @ 3:17am 
reinstall the game if it doesn't help you, write to support scrap mechanic

Good luck!
May 18, 2020 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by NizI:
reinstall the game if it doesn't help you, write to support scrap mechanic

Good luck!
These forums are supposed to be the support for paying customers. Getting real sick and fu cking tired of fanboys coming in and effectively trying to silence people reporting bugs and posting criticism.
AllOutWar76 May 18, 2020 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by :
Originally posted by NizI:
reinstall the game if it doesn't help you, write to support scrap mechanic

Good luck!
These forums are supposed to be the support for paying customers. Getting real sick and fu cking tired of fanboys coming in and effectively trying to silence people reporting bugs and posting criticism.

Well there is a sticky thread for reporting bugs. I highly doubt the devs comb the forums when they already made a thread for that purpose.
I feel you bro. I have the exact same problem with the bsod. Funny thing is: Its always a different error code
Originally posted by ♿ XERXES ♿:
I feel you bro. I have the exact same problem with the bsod. Funny thing is: Its always a different error code

You’re right, I hardly get the same error.

Originally posted by HarmfulEffect:
I am with you. i was about to post about this when i decided to be a good member of society and search. Here is what i was going to post:

I have tons of video/cpu intensive games and not once in three years has my computer crashed to BSOD. Now that I am at the stage where my base is rather large and and near the packing station, the game crashes and PC BSODs. No other crashes in any other games or video rendering software. Only in Scrap Mechanic. Has anyone else experienced this?

I have a general idea as to why, me and a bunch of other people seem to be having RAM issues on Windows 10, where technically 8GB of RAM is available, but the computer is only using 3GB causing several RAM related Blue screens of death. I’m going to be getting an additional new RAM stick to see if it fixes the issue. I’ll post again if that fixes the issue. It seems to be, because Scrap Mechanic is very RAM intensive with all the moving parts, and it would explain the crashes during machinery driving. I am also convinced that the reason it crashes now and not before, is because of poor optimization on part of the devs.

Originally posted by AllOutWar76:
Originally posted by :
These forums are supposed to be the support for paying customers. Getting real sick and fu cking tired of fanboys coming in and effectively trying to silence people reporting bugs and posting criticism.

Well there is a sticky thread for reporting bugs. I highly doubt the devs comb the forums when they already made a thread for that purpose.

In the sticky thread everything gets buried by everyone else’s issues that are much less important. Also, I agree with the first guy, I’m soooo tired of people just giving random general advice and passing it off as a fix. I want Specific advice that caters to mine and others problems. If you don’t care about someone’s problem you shouldn’t post.
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Old Wolf May 18, 2020 @ 1:52pm 
It's also literally one of the rules of the steam forum to search your issue first but none of you do that either, this isn't about being fanboys it's about a handful of you having the same problem and not realising that if you all used search and stuck to one thread your problem would get dealt with quicker because it would stay closer to the top. This thread will be buried in a few days by 50 new threads about wanting a map and 40 asking about fuel consumption plus 3 more talking about crashes. That's why there is a pinned thread so that your issue will always be at the top were the people that can help will find it
AllOutWar76 May 18, 2020 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by ChunkCoon:

Originally posted by AllOutWar76:

Well there is a sticky thread for reporting bugs. I highly doubt the devs comb the forums when they already made a thread for that purpose.

In the sticky thread everything gets buried by everyone else’s issues that are much less important. Also, I agree with the first guy, I’m soooo tired of people just giving random general advice and passing it off as a fix. I want Specific advice that caters to mine and others problems. If you don’t care about someone’s problem you shouldn’t post.

Things may get buried, but that's what the devs read and get their info from to fix bugs. Have you seen a dev reply to a single bug post for survival mode yet? Probably not because they don't comb the forums. And just like every other thread on these forums, this one will get buried as well. The only difference is, the devs will never read this thread as they already have a dedicated place that they do check and they do work on fixes for the bugs posted there. They already fixed quite a few bugs posted there but still have plenty to go.

But since you feel that this is the appropriate place, how exactly do the problems you listed break your computer? And how many computers has the game already broke of yours?
Originally posted by WolveRyan:
It's also literally one of the rules of the steam forum to search your issue first but none of you do that either, this isn't about being fanboys it's about a handful of you having the same problem and not realising that if you all used search and stuck to one thread your problem would get dealt with quicker because it would stay closer to the top. This thread will be buried in a few days by 50 new threads about wanting a map and 40 asking about fuel consumption plus 3 more talking about crashes. That's why there is a pinned thread so that your issue will always be at the top were the people that can help will find it

Alright, Excuse me for asking for help. I'd like to inform you that I searched EVERYWHERE I COULD, before coming here. I'm not just being helpless. I searched this issue several different ways, I researched the blue screen codes I got, I searched for help on the discord server, trust me, I'm not an idiot I can troubleshoot. I searched the internet, I searched the forums, I searched discord, I searched Reddit. I invite you to find a solution to my problem on any of those sources. I came here for help, not criticism.


Originally posted by AllOutWar76:
Originally posted by ChunkCoon:



In the sticky thread everything gets buried by everyone else’s issues that are much less important. Also, I agree with the first guy, I’m soooo tired of people just giving random general advice and passing it off as a fix. I want Specific advice that caters to mine and others problems. If you don’t care about someone’s problem you shouldn’t post.

Things may get buried, but that's what the devs read and get their info from to fix bugs. Have you seen a dev reply to a single bug post for survival mode yet? Probably not because they don't comb the forums. And just like every other thread on these forums, this one will get buried as well. The only difference is, the devs will never read this thread as they already have a dedicated place that they do check and they do work on fixes for the bugs posted there. They already fixed quite a few bugs posted there but still have plenty to go.

But since you feel that this is the appropriate place, how exactly do the problems you listed break your computer? And how many computers has the game already broke of yours?

1. The devs aren't the only people with solutions to problems, some people might have had the same issue and fixed it.

2. People are here and trying to help, or posting their same issues, there are already 9 comments and adding, you're here aren't you?.

3. Have you ever heard of hyperbole? My computer isn't broken, I'm merely saying that when these issues occur, It immediately ends and crashes every process on my computer. Why do you have to be so literal.

4. This isn't a thread for criticism or opinions, it's for objective help. I don't want your view on how ineffective my problem solving is. I want genuine fixes to my issues, not life help on how to use a forum
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JAGIELSKI May 18, 2020 @ 3:09pm 
Check if you have the newest drivers installed, drivers are often the cause of blue screens.

Also download the app called Speedfan to monitor your temperatures (best used with a second screen, but if you only have a single monitor you can alt-tab occasionally).

Thermal issues are another common cause of bluescreens so if your components are getting particularly hot, I'd invest in better cooling/replace thermal paste.
AllOutWar76 May 18, 2020 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by ChunkCoon:
1. The devs aren't the only people with solutions to problems, some people might have had the same issue and fixed it.

2. People are here and trying to help, or posting their same issues, there are already 9 comments and adding, you're here aren't you?.

3. Have you ever heard of hyperbole? My computer isn't broken, I'm merely saying that when these issues occur, It immediately ends and crashes every process on my computer. Why do you have to be so literal.

4. This isn't a thread for criticism or opinions, it's for objective help. I don't want your view on how ineffective my problem solving is. I want genuine fixes to my issues, not life help on how to use a forum

1. True, and also people have similar issues, a quick search would show you that. Could have always posted there, or you know, submit the bug report through the proper channels, even though it's obviously a hardware issue.

2. See 1.

3 Have you heard of sarcasm?

4. OK first off you are playing on a laptop with pretty poor gaming specs, your graphics card is pretty much in the middle for mobile 900 series and we are already 2 generations away. Chances are pretty high that you are overheating your CPU and GPU. Another thing is your hard drive space. Only having 4.7 GB on a hard drive that's 166GB means your disc is spinning like mad to get to your game files and load them. Combine that with old hardware in an enclosed space and your bound to have problems in a game like this. Plus there's no telling how many background applications you may have running as well.

That being said, I'm sure there are probably some games with pretty good graphics you can play without issues. And the reason why is they are not like this game. This game loads in and renders every individual block you have in a certain radius. And each block is small, so where lets say a wall in another game may be the same size as a wall in this game, in this game your PC is processing a lot more than it would in the other. You can imagine the amount of stress this is causing on your laptop vs other games. As far as multiplayer goes, it's not your connection that's the issue if you are playing locally. It's the machine that's hosting the game along with the terrible optimization.

In all honesty, this game is poorly optimized. I have a dedicated gaming PC that blows out the recommended specs and I still have issues. We all do. So even if you had a NASA computer, you would still have issues, they just would not be nearly as severe as the ones you are having now.

If you look at the recommended specs, it calls for a GTX 970, and you are running a 950m. There are people here with GTX 2080's that have issues as well along with i9 GPU's. So in a nutshell, you either need to get a bunch of stuff off of your HDD, defragment and find a way to cool down your GPU and CPU which may not even be possible with a laptop(I don't know if your laptop allows for removing the CPU to reapply thermal paste or has air intakes where a laptop fan would help), or you need to upgrade your hardware.

There is no magic fix where you change around some files as by your description you are clearly having hardware issues. And like I said, people with amazing rigs still have issues, so the game will never be 100% smooth until/if the devs optimize. That being said, you are always going to have more issues than most on your hardware, but if you can somehow cool it down, it may help a bit.

Originally posted by AllOutWar76:
4. OK first off you are playing on a laptop with pretty poor gaming specs, your graphics card is pretty much in the middle for mobile 900 series and we are already 2 generations away. Chances are pretty high that you are overheating your CPU and GPU. Another thing is your hard drive space. Only having 4.7 GB on a hard drive that's 166GB means your disc is spinning like mad to get to your game files and load them. Combine that with old hardware in an enclosed space and your bound to have problems in a game like this. Plus there's no telling how many background applications you may have running as well.

That being said, I'm sure there are probably some games with pretty good graphics you can play without issues. And the reason why is they are not like this game. This game loads in and renders every individual block you have in a certain radius. And each block is small, so where lets say a wall in another game may be the same size as a wall in this game, in this game your PC is processing a lot more than it would in the other. You can imagine the amount of stress this is causing on your laptop vs other games. As far as multiplayer goes, it's not your connection that's the issue if you are playing locally. It's the machine that's hosting the game along with the terrible optimization.

In all honesty, this game is poorly optimized. I have a dedicated gaming PC that blows out the recommended specs and I still have issues. We all do. So even if you had a NASA computer, you would still have issues, they just would not be nearly as severe as the ones you are having now.

If you look at the recommended specs, it calls for a GTX 970, and you are running a 950m. There are people here with GTX 2080's that have issues as well along with i9 GPU's. So in a nutshell, you either need to get a bunch of stuff off of your HDD, defragment and find a way to cool down your GPU and CPU which may not even be possible with a laptop(I don't know if your laptop allows for removing the CPU to reapply thermal paste or has air intakes where a laptop fan would help), or you need to upgrade your hardware.

There is no magic fix where you change around some files as by your description you are clearly having hardware issues. And like I said, people with amazing rigs still have issues, so the game will never be 100% smooth until/if the devs optimize. That being said, you are always going to have more issues than most on your hardware, but if you can somehow cool it down, it may help a bit.

I understand that my laptop is sub-par, but I know two other people with much worse computers, years older than mine, that have zero issues with running the game. The game before the update worked perfectly fine, and so did the multiplayer. I understand it's probably the new update, but I don't understand why the update would cause worse computers to run just as good, and newer ones to crash incessantly, I would also like to add, that I transferred the game's files from my HDD to my SDD, and the issue wasn't fixed.

PS: I recently opened up my computer, and everything is widely spaced, with plenty of space, an easily spinning fan, and little to no dust anywhere, I can't see how this wouldn't just be a software issue, or an Issue with my RAM (Which has been showing 3GB instead of the 8GB that's supposedly available)
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neamerjell May 18, 2020 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Watch Jagielski Gaming:
Check if you have the newest drivers installed, drivers are often the cause of blue screens.

Also download the app called Speedfan to monitor your temperatures (best used with a second screen, but if you only have a single monitor you can alt-tab occasionally).

Thermal issues are another common cause of bluescreens so if your components are getting particularly hot, I'd invest in better cooling/replace thermal paste.

Ah yes. Someone who has delved into the trenches of tech support and has come out the other side. I was also going to suggest drivers and temperatures. I might also add that since the computer in question is obviously a laptop (GTX 950m << notice the "m" for "mobile"), memory might be the issue or at least a contributing factor. A laptop might say it has a total of 8 GB of RAM, but as soon as you turn it on the GPU steals some for itself and leaves you with about 6 GB of usable memory.

Also, in my experience, BSODs are almost always hardware related. It was mentioned that it was a different code every time. This is a sign of a faulty power supply, or in the case of a laptop, an inadequate power supply. I have the desktop version of the 6700K, and is a hot running, power hungry CPU and Scrap Mechanic is a very CPU-intensive game.

If thermal dissipation (or in this case lack thereof) is the issue, you are similarly limited in your options because it is a laptop. The quoted post mentioned replacing the thermal paste. While this might be a viable option on a desktop PC, I wouldn't even attempt this on a laptop - and I have taken apart and reassembled a few. The risk of breaking a plastic clip or damaging the chips on the motherboard during disassembly or reassembly far outweigh any gains provided by replacing the thermal paste. I have seen the anemic heat pipe passive devices that cheap manufacturers try to pass off as CPU coolers and they are laughable.

Lets face the fact: laptops are simply not designed to run under full load for more than a minute or two, unlike purpose built desktop gaming PCs. Sadly, there isn't a whole lot that can be done about this. With laptops, you're pretty much stuck with what they give you, which is why I never attempt to run games on them.
AllOutWar76 May 18, 2020 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by ChunkCoon:

I understand that my laptop is sub-par, but I know two other people with much worse computers, years older than mine, that have zero issues with running the game. The game before the update worked perfectly fine, and so did the multiplayer. I understand it's probably the new update, but I don't understand why the update would cause worse computers to run just as good, and newer ones to crash incessantly, I would also like to add, that I transferred the game's files from my HDD to my SDD, and the issue wasn't fixed.

PS: I recently opened up my computer, and everything is widely spaced, with plenty of space, an easily spinning fan, and little to no dust anywhere, I can't see how this wouldn't just be a software issue, or an Issue with my RAM (Which has been showing 3GB instead of the 8GB that's supposedly available)

The thing is, even if they have worse specs, their hardware may be in better condition. Things go faulty all the time, sometimes thermal paste isn't properly applied to the CPU, there's tons of things that can happen. I made a mistake and somehow missed the part in your OP about it being fine before the patch. The patch made the game worse for a lot of us, myself included.

That being said, it looks like you were probably at around the limit that your machine could run the game before the patch. Although blue screens can be caused by software like graphics drivers, it's usually due to overheating or faulty memory. When you say 3GB of ram showing, do you mean that it says the computer is using 3GB while you play? Or do you mean your computer is showing that you only have 3GB installed? If the latter, than you may have found your problem. If you have dual channel memory, one of your sticks may be bad. Although, at least in my experience, a bad stick in dual channel setting usually doesn't let your system boot up. Either way, if you have 8gb installed, your PC should show that 8 is installed. I am not sure if I misunderstood what you meant about the 3GB.

Like I said though, since the update, a lot of us have been having issues. And there a bunch of threads about people saying how hot their PC's are running. The only short term solution I could think of for the blue screens (If you are sure its not memory) is underclocking your hardware if you are comfortable doing so. And I would only suggest that if you bought some sort of gaming laptop that was overclocked by the company who assembled it.
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