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[Fenrir]

Not only can she stun you but then she can dash into you and take no damage?
How is that balanced in any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way.

heres how any fight with her goes.

poke, fire, stun, poke, dash into you, u die

[Gilver Redgrave]

Did you try not getting in her range ? Did you try stunning her first ?

Also her dash is the worst ability in the game. You literally gain full control over her position for as long as she stays inside you.

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Did you try not getting in her range ? Did you try stunning her first ?

Also her dash is the worst ability in the game. You literally gain full control over her position for as long as she stays inside you.

Shes fine for me as other classes but when I play a physical assassin the 1v1 match up is not it.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by arthur_pendragon:

Shes fine for me as other classes but when I play a physical assassin the 1v1 match up is not it.

Well thats a case of "know your god" then i guess.
You need to know what gods your god counters and which counters you. If you play for example Serquet and Taunt her and crit her with your 1 Ability into oblivion she has nothing to laugh.

If you however play a Bastet and jump right into her she will stun you and make you retreat with the backjump or straight kills you.

[Kyotou ✗]

Originally posted by arthur_pendragon:

Shes fine for me as other classes but when I play a physical assassin the 1v1 match up is not it.

What physical assassins are you struggling to play into Maman? The god deals a lot of damage but her intent is very straightforward, avoid the stun and you win the fight. You don't fight her head on and eat her fire + stun, catch her with her abilities down and she just dies like any mage.

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by Kyotou ✗:

Originally posted by arthur_pendragon:

Shes fine for me as other classes but when I play a physical assassin the 1v1 match up is not it.

What physical assassins are you struggling to play into Maman? The god deals a lot of damage but her intent is very straightforward, avoid the stun and you win the fight. You don't fight her head on and eat her fire + stun, catch her with her abilities down and she just dies like any mage.

awilix

[Kyotou ✗]

Originally posted by arthur_pendragon:

awilix

Awilix isn't good at the moment and she has the worst matchup into Maman because her channeled fire makes her knockup immune and she can activiate/cancel it freely. Serqet, Thor, Susano, Camazotz, Thanatos all can play really well into her as they can either outrange her or interrupt her fire (thanatos silence, serqet taunt) before she can get it off.

[Divine Pounding]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Did you try not getting in her range ? Did you try stunning her first ?

Also her dash is the worst ability in the game. You literally gain full control over her position for as long as she stays inside you.

I try baiting them so hard to get inside of me, then i use an ability to get behind my tower and laugh as it kills them.

i love trolling this new trash god.

[Kyotou ✗]

Originally posted by Divine Pounding:

I try baiting them so hard to get inside of me, then i use an ability to get behind my tower and laugh as it kills them.

i love trolling this new trash god.

This only works on trash Mamans, by the time they've entered you they have already nuked 90% of your hp, at that point the dash is a finisher. Only the bad Mamans are dashing inside healthy targets abruptly without any real planning.

The best you can do against Maman is a) avoid her dash, b) try to take her out of position before her dash kills you, or c) just nuke her before she can get her kit off.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by Kyotou ✗:

This only works on trash Mamans, by the time they've entered you they have already nuked 90% of your hp,

And this only works on trash enemys.
I honestly dont know why people have a hard time staying out of her range and avoid her Dash. Or just stun ,tauns,silence knock up her. She is squishy as hell so if you CC her in any shape or form she cant Lifesteal or Dash away/inside you....result is death. On top of that she is not like Ao or Morrigan you literally see her coming.

[Kyotou ✗]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

And this only works on trash enemys.
I honestly dont know why people have a hard time staying out of her range and avoid her Dash. Or just stun ,tauns,silence knock up her. She is squishy as hell so if you CC her in any shape or form she cant Lifesteal or Dash away/inside you....result is death. On top of that she is not like Ao or Morrigan you literally see her coming.

You can see any character without a cloak coming at you, that doesn't stop them from killing you. Assassins are all about timing engages, while Maman does suffer from Lancelot syndrome where her engage is lacking it doesn't dismiss the potential of the rest of her kit, all she needs to do is overcome closing the gap between her target. Once she's in she has her dash to mitigate or dodge abilities, her ult is a aoe knockup to cc immune and she can stun to interrupt.

Being blown up because people see you walking into them means you're engaging poorly and not waiting out abilities or having your team engage first, implying this god only plays into trash enemies is construing the statement to say that she only performs at a lower level, her kit says otherwise.

Just so you know she plays quite similarly to Ao Kuang, any Ao Kuang at high mmr is simply not using his stealth to engage into every scenario, that's suicide. You're taking flanks, walking from the sides and when the enemy does spot you, you're using your 1 to evade abilities, much like how Maman plays with her dash, you have options.

Idk what level you're playing at where you think Maman is the worst god, if you truly believe that then ask yourself this, how does Arachne find success when her kit is essentially what you're advocating against, walking at enemies and killing them. You don't need a Thor combo teleport to or Susano blink to engage every fight, simply knowing when you can/cannot engage is enough.

[Echo NO Aim]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by Kyotou ✗:

This only works on trash Mamans, by the time they've entered you they have already nuked 90% of your hp,

And this only works on trash enemys.
I honestly dont know why people have a hard time staying out of her range and avoid her Dash. Or just stun ,tauns,silence knock up her. She is squishy as hell so if you CC her in any shape or form she cant Lifesteal or Dash away/inside you....result is death. On top of that she is not like Ao or Morrigan you literally see her coming.

So basically like any jungler who comes straight at you?
Doesn't need a genius to figure it out after a few hours of gameplay to stay out of jungler range or just cc them to death. Again that was not the issue with Brigitte since everything you mentioned except the dash inside applies to all junglers. But whatever.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by Kyotou ✗:

Idk what level you're playing at where you think Maman is the worst god

I never said the worst i only dismiss the statement that she is and i quote "Broken".

Originally posted by Echo NO Aim:

So basically like any jungler who comes straight at you?
Doesn't need a genius to figure it out after a few hours of gameplay to stay out of jungler range or just cc them to death. Again that was not the issue with Brigitte since everything you mentioned except the dash inside applies to all junglers. But whatever.

Yes doesnt take a genius i agree with you. However as you can see there are plenty of people making her look stronger then she actually is and even call her broken. So.Yeah. It does not take a genius but low MMR and account level players still need this kind of obvious advice it seems.

I mean you just saw it didnt you ? Someone comparing Maman with Arachne. While at the same time question my MMR. And saying both work the same on top of all that. How can i take that serious ?

Let me ask you this.
If Arachne and Maman work pretty much the same how comes i only hear "Maman broken mimimi" and not word about "Arachne broken please nerf" ? Kinda odd that both are "the same" but the higher ranked one of those two is not considered broken while the god ranked in mid tier is oh so overpowerd. Kinda odd dont you agree ?

Here some hard facts:

Arachne Grandmaster Conquest stats:
In terms of popularity, Arachne in Conquest takes 27 place among all gods, 12 place among Assassin, by Win Rate Arachne in 45 place among all gods and 7 among Assassin

Maman Brigitte Lv100+ casual Conquest stats (no ranked stats yet obviously):
In terms of popularity, Maman brigitte in Conquest takes 1 place among all gods, 1 place among Mages, by Win Rate Maman brigitte in 59 place among all gods and 23 among Mages

Now Arachne in casual Conquest:
In terms of popularity, Arachne in Conquest takes 17 place among all gods, 2 place among Assassin, by Win Rate Arachne in 3 place among all gods and 1 among Assassin


In casual gods look in fact better then they actually are because as you can guess there are by far more noobs you can just bash. And Maman is the perfect example for that. Many noobs you guys can bash and then claim Maman is broken because you beat up some low level beginners. If THATS the ground you guys wanna argue on then let me tell you that you please dont build a house on that fundament. Mamans stats in high level play wont look nearly as good as they do now. And right now she is just average.

[Echo NO Aim]

Aaaand he again ignores the simple damage output once again. Talks about MMR and doesn't need a genius, yet fails to comprehend she needed a nerf.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Originally posted by Echo NO Aim:

Aaaand he again ignores the simple damage output once again.

Aaaand he ignores again that when you dont hit anything you dont deal damage.

Mate if you dont have real arguments why do you even try ? I literally gave you the current rankings of Arachne and Maman thats the facts buddy nothing i made up. I know people with less skill in the game need a little longer comprehending stuff but its 1 month now.

[Echo NO Aim]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Originally posted by Echo NO Aim:

Aaaand he again ignores the simple damage output once again.

Aaaand he ignores again that when you dont hit anything you dont deal damage.

Mate if you dont have real arguments why do you even try ? I literally gave you the current rankings of Arachne and Maman thats the facts buddy nothing i made up. I know people with less skill in the game need a little longer comprehending stuff but its 1 month now.

Aaand again your argument applies to ALL gods so it's not about dodging or applying cc at all.
Gosh it's hard to argue with people who don't have a feeling for the game they argue about and when they predict something because they think they know it all they are just wrong because they lack understanding of gods. And then they jump on the coping train.