Pay to win? :: SMITE General Discussions

Cmdo.Delta has SMITE

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:14am

You only have to unlock gods... you can buy them with money or just unlock them as you play like all other games of that kind (LoL, etc).

Skins are cosmetic stuff you have to pay real money but it gives nothing more. Just some skins look cool nothing else.

It's not more pay 2 win than LoL. You can unlock god faster but nothing more. Is it P2W? Not really as you can unlock them all just playing the game. And those who decides to pay dont get anything that makes their gods better than yours.

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♥RainyDays♥ has SMITE

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:17am

You're given a set amount of Gods to play, something like 6 out of 70 out of them.
Every week or two they change rotation, so you'll get another 6 free - meaning you can play 12 Gods for free at no cost, but 6 of them will change every so often.

There is a 'tier' of Gods in the game (Google SMITE Tier list) but that's regarding a professional level. In regarding casual level, every God is as viable as the next one, some may be a little more than others - and it is a skill based game, so if you mesh well with a God you can do incredible with it. If you buy something just because it's deemed "OP (Overpowered)", you can find yourself falling short and wondering why it was said to be OP in the first place.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's pay to win, moreso as it's "Pay to Enjoy Fully" because you'll find pretty much everyone who plays the game doesn't enjoy playing the same few Gods match after match after match, they like to spice it up every match and be something else each time. If you only have 12 out of the 70 Gods, you can imagine the limitations you're given. Not to mention if you enjoy a specific God who is currently in rotation, after a week or two you'll have to buy the God.

The game has a currency system known as 'favor', you earn it through a variety of means and assuming you were playing Arena (Shortest game mode) and winning constantly throughout the day, you could probably get enough favor to buy a God after 3 days - but I mean *constantly*, so you're looking about a week or two if you want to buy a God with favor. That favor could also have been better spent on recolors (Some look good, some do not; Also some avatars cost favor)

Overall no, this game is not pay to win. However what you're best to do is play the game, give it a week and if you enjoy playing it then definitely get the God pack because it's worth 30$ (Even better, 20$ on special right now) to have that flexibility to play whatever you want, and you'll quickly find the pool of Gods you'll love to play as opposed to being denied playing them just because you don't want to sink a lot of time into the game.

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Ri0Rdian

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:18am

I guess you can attempt to bribe the enemy players/team into leaving the match...does that count as pay 2 win?

#3

Paprikaas

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:23am

Originally posted by Double Espresso:
Are there any pay to win aspects in this game? If so, how bad are they?

game isnt p2w, but the gods are unbalanced as ♥♥♥♥

#4

Skafi

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:26am

not a pay to win at all ... i have so many hours in non steam version - the game actually gives u real currency for playing

#5

Jesus

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:33am

Originally posted by Levante:
Originally posted by Double Espresso:
Are there any pay to win aspects in this game? If so, how bad are they?
game isnt p2w, but the gods are unbalanced as ♥♥♥♥

ignore the noob, nothing unbalanced.
guy doesnt like xing tiang (new god). they always get nerfed after an update.
guess he is lacking skill

#6

I like Miners has SMITE

Sep 10, 2015 @ 9:35am

no

#7

doobs

Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:03am

not at all, very fun game.

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CHUNGUS (AKA AMOOGUS) has SMITE

Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:05am

Originally posted by Double Espresso:
Are there any pay to win aspects in this game? If so, how bad are they?

Nope. Only cosmetic skins for sale. You can even rent gods for a measly 300 favor for a day before you buy them. Pretty sweet.

#9

Wapf

Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:12am

There is literally no pay to win in this game whatsoever. The starting gods are some of the best in the game, there's always a rotation of free gods to play that are great, unlocking gods doesn't take all that long, and there's no in-game advantages for anything you can buy with gems.

#10

Bearus

Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:40am

You can use real money for either gods (playable characters) or cosmetic stuff (god skins, voice packs*, player icon, ward skin, etc.).

You can use ingame currency to buy gods, recolour skins, mastery skins (blue/gold, black/gold or blue/diamond) or rent gods. The renting period can be chosen to be 1 match, 1 day, 3 days and 7 days (own all gods, so not 100 % sure). You have 5 gods that are always free permanently and 5 gods on rotation (rotation changes each patch).

The ultimate god pack allows you to get all gods ever (current and future ones) for a one time fee of 30 dollars/23 euro (see this Valve?). A very nice offer if you just want to enjoy the game without bothering to grind.

* Gods already have voices for actions and taunt, joke and laugh. The game has a system called VGS. Basically you can issue many commands using shotcut keys such as VR3 (enemies missing right!), it will show up in chat and play a voice that can be heard by your intire team (incase they don't notice). With the voice pack, that voice is changed to the gods (many skins also have their own voice pack). You unlock the voice pack once per god and it will cover the god and its skins.

I recommend learing the VGS system, it really helps with communication and almost everyone uses it later on. The best ones to remember is VFF (enemies missing), VTT (enemies have returned), VRR (Retreat) and VVB (Be right back). VVGL (good luck) and VVGF (have fun) are also nice to use in the begginning and VVGG (Good game) at the end (mostly only used when winning xD).

#11

Bearus

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:04pm

Originally posted by The Relentless:
May i ask. Since when games was *pay* to win or *free* to play? For exemple poker is a pay to win game?

So some gamers are complaining about games desinged differentily. What is this all about?

Is it beacause some games are free and you get better advantage by paying with cash?
On a different view how much money does it cost to make a *free* game? (same as a payed game) Will this game make money if it is all free?
Then who pay for building these programs?
My opinion: people like you and i who want to make a living.

Would you spend years of youre life working on a project for nothing? Creating a game you always wanted possible but you had this desision to make:
Make it free for everyone; (more potential customer and buyers of your product less money spent in marketing, publicity ect. ) or chosing to make it a regular 50$-75$ game with expentions dlc and the rest witch will end up with more than a 160$ game at the end. (beacause before every game was 30$-75$ (1980~2010) **basicly before facebook/tweeter and phones games came in with there ingame currency** (it changed everything) then steam.

STEAM is now the biggest distibuter of PC games. They desided that anyone can review games and made programs to choose witch one is the most *relative* by statistics. They also started to put in the front page of their store ALPHA or BETA games for a price.

Can you see where im going to?

Pay to win means : you choose what you want to get from the game pice by pice instead of paying a full price for all the content.

We live in a capitalism world. Nothing is free.

Pay to win usually means that you gain a gameplay advantage through using real money. Imagine if half the characters could only be obtained with real money. If we assume all of the charachters were perfectly balanced, that wouldn't be pay to win. On the other hand if these charachters were stronger (intentionally or not) than those available to non-paying users, then it would be pay to win.

I won't comment on Poker as i don't know anything about it.

#12

MissingUserID has SMITE

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:55pm

Feel like if you pay for all the gods ( Like i did) you are kinda makeing the game harder for yourself, you have so much choice you dont really get good with them at at the same speed as you would if you had to solwly unlock them by playing.

#13

Bearus

Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:58pm

Originally posted by A Cupcake:
Feel like if you pay for all the gods ( Like i did) you are kinda makeing the game harder for yourself, you have so much choice you dont really get good with them at at the same speed as you would if you had to solwly unlock them by playing.

True that it can feel overwhelming at first, but it is quite nice later on. As I started from the begginning where there only were 17 gods availalbe, I have had the luxury of getting to now each of them slowly.

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Nuka-Cola Zero Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:59pm

Game is not p2w. Also you can buy a pack for cheap that unlocks all current and future gods.

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