Ymir is a bit OP dont you think?

[Pak0tac]

I tried pretty much all the gods in the game, many of them are mastered.
Im pretty good with most of them, but i must admit, Ymir is probabley the esiest God and the top most OP. as Guardian he have high defence and sustain, and strong de-buffs, just like any guardian should have, but... his passive is X2 damage to all chilled targets, which is WAY OP, considering his ulti does a normal 1K damage...

Now to compare, Ra is a nuker, all his skills are focusing on pure damage with a little bit
fo healing on the side, but ALL HIS SKILLS doing half the damage of what Ymir do.

Artemish, even with her criticals, she will need at least 5 critical hits to get the damage
Ymir do in a single ulti, and even then it will be to just to a single target.

Thenatos, assasin, his 1 + 2 combo do a total of about 700 damage, to a single target

Ymir: 1000+ damage and slow debuff to ALL ENEMIES around him
if chilled its 2000+ damage

Yesturday i had 7 games in a row with Ymir where we completley dominated the enemy
even when there were noobs and feeders in our team, hell, we won 3 vs 5....
5 out of those 7 games, the enemy team surrended after 15 min beause we just raped them so hard

[Doomvora]

You should probably reread ymir's abilities, specifically the passive.

[Flopple]

Ymir is not OP in the slightest, he's very slow and has absolutely no mobility, his ult is hard to hit without anything to confirm it, his combo relies on an 18 second cooldown CC, as you will not hit the spikes without it. He's a good agressive guardian that falls off late game, simple as that.

Also, you didn't read his passive correctly, the double damage only applies to Ymir's basics, not his abilities.

[Pak0tac]

hes slow yes but you can easly counter it with speed buff, which is usually remains untouched as no one ever picks it for some reason.
and his ulti is pretty easy to hit with, you cast Q and then R the frozen enemies, unless they have beans, will remain in the large AOE of the ulti, i easly had double and tripple kill with it.

[Flopple]

Originally posted by CommanderChappie:

hes slow yes but you can easly counter it with speed buff, which is usually remains untouched as no one ever picks it for some reason.
and his ulti is pretty easy to hit with, you cast Q and then R the frozen enemies, unless they have beans, will remain in the large AOE of the ulti, i easly had double and tripple kill with it.

I assume you have pretty low MMR if people can't get out of Ymir ult and don't pick up their yellow buff, in which case a lot of stuff may seem OP to you simply due to your lack of knowledge of the game. That'll change with experience, so just enjoy the game and keep learning.

[EmethSAS]

Yeah, sure, on paper Ymir's abilities do more damage, but in practice, if you get a Ymir ult off on someone it's because they weren't paying attention, were locked down by some other CC, or were trying for some other objective and hoped to take it before the ult went off...

Just looking at pure damage numbers gives you 10% of the story. To compare Ra and Ymir as you did: Ra is faster, can do damage on all of his abilities, and 3 out of 4 of those abilities are ranged; meanwhile Ymir is slow, his 1 does no damage, his 3 does a little damage, so yeah, his 2 and 4 can do lots of damage, but don't have amazing range and can easily be dodged. That's the difference between a Mage and a Guardian: a Mage has damage projection and can take the fight to the enemy, a Guardian pretty much has to let the fight come to him and put himself in the enemy's path.

Ra would be OP if he did too much damage with range like that, whereas Ymir is not OP because his damage is meant to punish enemies that decide to get too close, either because they think it is worthwhile for the objective they are after or because they are stupid/made a mistake. You have to take the whole game into perspective rather than just comparing numbers on a screen out of context. And movement, positioning, range, objectives, and teamwork are all major factors that outweigh pure damage numbers in most cases.

[Jin-]

Too bad he is starter God and you see him in every casual game. Sigh.... oh and Neith too.
Wish the starter gods were random instead of the most ____ ones.

[Tak]

Nah his ult is extremely easy to get out and adcs shreds him like nothing late game.

[Ac1180]

Ymir OP just no. IMO Ra is more deserving of OP then ymir. The delay Ymir ult means you can just walk out :P Or neith hades etc.. If they really need to can use abilites to get out. Easy. Ymir is stuck in one place for like 3 seconds if im playing any god i can just throw my most powerful nuke at him it will hit. Its not uncommon for him to take more damage then he deals in his ult. So no not OP at all Imo

[BinBagLover]

Originally posted by Tak:

Nah his ult is extremely easy to get out and adcs shreds him like nothing late game.

Why do people say "adc shreds late game" as a counter? you do realise all ADCs that build the oh so typical crit build will shred everything and anyone, regardless of set up. Hades is shredded by ADCs, Khepri is shredded by ADCs. ADC late game is meant to shred, its what they do.

On par with saying Ares ult is useless because you can beads it...

[Doomvora]

Originally posted by Atra Mors:

Originally posted by Tak:

Nah his ult is extremely easy to get out and adcs shreds him like nothing late game.

Why do people say "adc shreds late game" as a counter? you do realise all ADCs that build the oh so typical crit build will shred everything and anyone, regardless of set up. Hades is shredded by ADCs, Khepri is shredded by ADCs. ADC late game is meant to shred, its what they do.

On par with saying Ares ult is useless because you can beads it...

Except you know, geb, or people that build anti-crit.

[TheGooeyBeans]

This conversation is hilarious. Ymir is a strong support - more offensive than most. He can soak damage and zone the other team out with his wall. Is he the best support? No. He has weaknesses and is by no means "OP." OP is release Bellona, Sol, Ratatoskr, Kephri, etc.

The original poster has no idea what he is talking about as he blatantly misinterprets Ymir's passive.

Also, anyone that thinks Ra is OP is also insane. Ra is a very average god and hasn't had a niche in any meta since I started playing last October. You will never see him banned in ranked as the only thing he does particularly well is push lanes, but when he does he is easily picked off. His ult has great CDR potential but is hard to hit. Blech.

[TheGooeyBeans]

Originally posted by Zhang Chunhua:

Originally posted by Atra Mors:

Why do people say "adc shreds late game" as a counter? you do realise all ADCs that build the oh so typical crit build will shred everything and anyone, regardless of set up. Hades is shredded by ADCs, Khepri is shredded by ADCs. ADC late game is meant to shred, its what they do.

On par with saying Ares ult is useless because you can beads it...

Except you know, geb, or people that build anti-crit.

^Celestial Legion Helm. The forgotten item.

[Flopple]

Originally posted by The Gooey Beans:

Originally posted by Zhang Chunhua:

Except you know, geb, or people that build anti-crit.

^Celestial Legion Helm. The forgotten item.

Not forgotten, it's just really bad and a complete waste of an item slot.

[TheGooeyBeans]

Originally posted by Flandre Scarlet:

Originally posted by The Gooey Beans:

^Celestial Legion Helm. The forgotten item.

Not forgotten, it's just really bad and a complete waste of an item slot.

It's a luxury item for late game supports. I would hardly say +60 Magical Power and +50 Physical Protections with a sweet passive is "really bad."

Just because something isn't used often does not mean it doesn't have a place. Do your research.

[F1aw1ess]

Hes OP...but in a good way...been saying this forever