nerf chiron

[Hichinami]

bs hunter.

3 damage ability's wich 1 is guaranteed hit (with crit if he has crit item) fkkin heal passive, an ult wich escapes death, fkkin dash and so on.

tf is this for bs.

no matter what you say chiron has way tomuch in his kit

[Gilgamesh]

Publicado originalmente por RecalledDread:

Publicado originalmente por Ysil69:

Chiron is weak compared to other adcs, and maybe comes out a little a head later on. He's a safe adc. Look at his abilities, his rank 5 damage scaling on his abilities is pretty low in comparison to other "real" adc's. His ulti doesn't escape death unless he kills you. So basically he has 1 damage aoe, one escape, and a very low damaging auto aim ability. His % of power on his abilities is lack luster and matches gods that have way higher damage on their abilties. No stuns or cc's, he's actually a very lack luster god.

To play him well you'd really need to be able to aim well. Compare his ulti with Ramas or cupids or really any damage ultimate. If anyone needs a nerf it's that damn Ao Kaung...

Why would Ao Kuang need a nerf? His ult is countered by beads AND aegis, you can burst him down easily enough depending on the god you play, CC is also effective at slowing/stopping him. and anyone with escapes is pretty safe, since he is very close range. He also makes almost as much noise as a Loki does in stealth.

Lol I'm not actually calling for a nerf. I was just being a ♥♥♥♥♥ about AO ;)

[Separa]

Publicado originalmente por Amber:

He's op. His basics did more dmg yet we had the same items

Not all characters are built alike. Some derive more power from items than others. Hell; some abilities derive more than others, within the same character. That said; he probably will get nerfed, and sooner rather than later. It seems like new characters always are.

[Nolo Contendere]

I'm confused, is the OP venting or is the OP mad cuz bad?

[Illiaz]

chiron and neith are the 2 most OP gods. If every single game has one or the other or both, every single one, they have become the meta because of how easy they are to push and get kills with, its a 0 skill thing. 0 skill needed to use effectively. I dled game like 2 weeeks ago, played chiron 2 times in conquest and was top kdr, thought i was good at game then played against chirons, they rekt and were always top kdr. I didnt need skill to do good with him, no one does. Champ basically plays itself and gets you auto kills. People saying he is balanced are peopel who main him prolly.

[RecalledDread]

Publicado originalmente por Illiaz:

chiron and neith are the 2 most OP gods. If every single game has one or the other or both, every single one, they have become the meta because of how easy they are to push and get kills with, its a 0 skill thing. 0 skill needed to use effectively. I dled game like 2 weeeks ago, played chiron 2 times in conquest and was top kdr, thought i was good at game then played against chirons, they rekt and were always top kdr. I didnt need skill to do good with him, no one does. Champ basically plays itself and gets you auto kills. People saying he is balanced are peopel who main him prolly.

I rarely see them. Not sure where you got them being OP from. Chiron is strong as has already been discussed, but not OP. Neith falls off late game compared to pretty much all ADCs. I certainly wouldn't way they have become the meta.

ADCs are supposed to get top kdr, it just means you are playing the role right, not the character is OP. I have gone against several Chirons and found he isn't that difficult as long as you play safer than playing against other ADCs. Personally I find him more difficult to play in duo lane in Conquest (as opposed to Clash or Arena, where he seems much easier). I don't main him, but he is balanced in my opinion, then again, as I said, I don't have trouble against him for the most part.

[Illiaz]

Publicado originalmente por RecalledDread:

Publicado originalmente por Illiaz:

chiron and neith are the 2 most OP gods. If every single game has one or the other or both, every single one, they have become the meta because of how easy they are to push and get kills with, its a 0 skill thing. 0 skill needed to use effectively. I dled game like 2 weeeks ago, played chiron 2 times in conquest and was top kdr, thought i was good at game then played against chirons, they rekt and were always top kdr. I didnt need skill to do good with him, no one does. Champ basically plays itself and gets you auto kills. People saying he is balanced are peopel who main him prolly.

I rarely see them. Not sure where you got them being OP from. Chiron is strong as has already been discussed, but not OP. Neith falls off late game compared to pretty much all ADCs. I certainly wouldn't way they have become the meta.

ADCs are supposed to get top kdr, it just means you are playing the role right, not the character is OP. I have gone against several Chirons and found he isn't that difficult as long as you play safer than playing against other ADCs. Personally I find him more difficult to play in duo lane in Conquest (as opposed to Clash or Arena, where he seems much easier). I don't main him, but he is balanced in my opinion, then again, as I said, I don't have trouble against him for the most part.

Its not having trouble against him, its his utility and lack of weaknesses. His passive increases his healing received asnd heals him, making lifesteal better and lane sustain even easier. His 1 removes cc from allies and does AOE dmg with not garbage scaling on it. His 2 is free auto aim attack that does good dmg dmg and can crit. His 3 is a good escape or a good pusher. His ult has decent dmg, he can't be killed whiel using it, and if he gets a kill with it and he would have been killed he gets to come back to life and it can proc the effects of 2. Its a set of abilities that synergize too well giving him huge lane presence, easy getaway from death and devastating late game. Neith might not be OP but is extemelty annoyign with her jump, stuns, and good dmg output. And frankly if you see 1 or 2 champs every game as the ADC, the devs should do something. If champs were truly balanced there wouldnt be 2-3 that are always picked for a certain role.

[RecalledDread]

Publicado originalmente por Illiaz:

Publicado originalmente por RecalledDread:

I rarely see them. Not sure where you got them being OP from. Chiron is strong as has already been discussed, but not OP. Neith falls off late game compared to pretty much all ADCs. I certainly wouldn't way they have become the meta.

ADCs are supposed to get top kdr, it just means you are playing the role right, not the character is OP. I have gone against several Chirons and found he isn't that difficult as long as you play safer than playing against other ADCs. Personally I find him more difficult to play in duo lane in Conquest (as opposed to Clash or Arena, where he seems much easier). I don't main him, but he is balanced in my opinion, then again, as I said, I don't have trouble against him for the most part.

Its not having trouble against him, its his utility and lack of weaknesses. His passive increases his healing received asnd heals him, making lifesteal better and lane sustain even easier. His 1 removes cc from allies and does AOE dmg with not garbage scaling on it. His 2 is free auto aim attack that does good dmg dmg and can crit. His 3 is a good escape or a good pusher. His ult has decent dmg, he can't be killed whiel using it, and if he gets a kill with it and he would have been killed he gets to come back to life and it can proc the effects of 2. Its a set of abilities that synergize too well giving him huge lane presence, easy getaway from death and devastating late game. Neith might not be OP but is extemelty annoyign with her jump, stuns, and good dmg output. And frankly if you see 1 or 2 champs every game as the ADC, the devs should do something. If champs were truly balanced there wouldnt be 2-3 that are always picked for a certain role.

I see what you mean about the abilities, but I really don't find them overly powerful, there are more powerful gods in the game, either due to sheer damage or how their abilities work together (Ah Puch for example, though he is not so bad now, don't see him much either).

As I said before, I rarely see those 2 gods being picked, most of the time Neith only seems to appear in Assault, Chiron I only saw a lot of during the time his 3 gave true damage. Now, every 5 games or so, I might see 1 or 2, which is about the same for most other gods anyway. I see Rama, Medusa, Hou Yi more than Chiron. Maybe a Xbal here and there too, about as often as Chiron. It could just be luck that I am seeing so few, and you so many, maybe it's the region, or levels of people we're playing against, or you could be exaggerating how often you see him/don't realise it isn't as often as that.

I see lots of Loki's who is a balanced god, rarely see Sol, who is at least slightly unbalanced according to some. So balance doesn't seem to have much to do with whether or not they are picked. He is also the newest god, so maybe people just want to play him, and didn't have the chance until recently (now that most people have played him).

If you want to counter his healing, get Curse - one will counter healing, or the other will counter attack speed, depends on what they are going for (I suggest the anti heal one). As ADC, there is an anti-heal item, in the Jotunns wrath line (Brawlers I think), might be worth trying it against them. Failing that, play safer, wait until a gank arrives to kill him, since he won't be able to keep up the healing if he's dead anyway.

[DENIS_Biomechanoid 🍑]

Yeah, every ADC is designed to DESTROY, especially when they start to build crit items.

And the fact that Chiron is not being picked too often over other ADCs means he's not as unbalanced as you think.

[Rexar]

If Chiron was OP, he would have been picked by every player since he can now be rented too. As for top KDR, ADC are meant to carry, its in their name :p