Premade Party team vs Solo queue team ... give us a damn solo queue option, ty.

[cybercena89]

I come back here and there for a couple of weeks on smite, and the toxic matchmaking is still there, i want to play fast modes with no need to pick meta bulls**t so i go clash-slash or whatever a 2 lane map is called. In 20 games i got mached in a full solo queue team 90% of the time to go up against teams full of 2,3,4 party members stomping us. They have perfect team comps with tank, hard cc... you can see the immediate focus on specific targets and calls for players that used dashes and jumps or relics to kill them... i play since beta and used to watch pro streams and tournaments ( zap , inco, ana, las etc) so i can tell what is going to happen since the first mid fight and it is depressing. in 2 games i played against a party of speed hackers, i called them out on the first game and the next one they focused me... just give us a solo queue checkbox so party plays vs party and solo players against solo. For the love of god hire someone that can do a matchmaking.... last game 4 of us had 40% or less win rate against a team with 50% + a dude with like 60-70% in a party with a chronos that named his smurf chronos 66x or whatever... oh and before someone says the most stupid think that is "get friends" because u like ez games in your friends party against noobs lets see what happens if you get matched against a 4 man party of top tier skilled players in a voice chat every game for the whole night, the whole week and month... i bet you will not have a good time. I have to watch players that play wo relics or dont use skills or ultimates in fights, cant pay attention to a 2 lane map and so on... wake up smite i used to play with dozen of friends and they all quit this mess, game has no growth because it is both hard and people get stomped wo understanding what is going on because of the smurfs and the horrible matchmaking... i used to love this game but in 10 days im already burned out and i did not play in a year, and in the last 5 years i might have played a total of 2 months ? maybe? back in the day i was on the game 24/7 if not playing i was watching a stream. Farewell.

[Gilver Redgrave]

Thing with a small playerbase is you have no freedom in splitting it.

The playerbase is already split between multiple game modes. The playerbase is further split by normal and ranked mode. Splitting further by splitting all that even further into two seperate ques (solo and premade) would be a very bad idea.

Ask everyone who plays ranked how many times a day they see the same person in their matches over and over again. Hell i even had days where i had the same person in the enemy team 3 matches in a row. Smite does not have the playerbase to do what youre asking for.

[cybercena89]

Originally posted by Gilver Redgrave:

Thing with a small playerbase is you have no freedom in splitting it.

The playerbase is already split between multiple game modes. The playerbase is further split by normal and ranked mode. Splitting further by splitting all that even further into two seperate ques (solo and premade) would be a very bad idea.

Ask everyone who plays ranked how many times a day they see the same person in their matches over and over again. Hell i even had days where i had the same person in the enemy team 3 matches in a row. Smite does not have the playerbase to do what youre asking for.

i do not think so, you are telling me that other than my match there is not another one where a full solo team is matched against a 2-4 party team ? so i must be the most unlucky player alive. Plus, how many people don't play the game because they can't learn it and because the matchmaking is so bad they quit ? yesterday i got matched against a duo of hackers twice, (https://smite.guru/profile/719864944-SpeedNickGer/matches and https://smite.guru/profile/719495456-VlaamsBeIang/matches ) and then against a 4 people party twice, they were all good like me at least if not more knowledgeable of the actual meta and itemization. I think devs should enable solo queue and see what happens because smite 2 will be the same clown fiesta again and again, it will suffer of the same plaguing problems: people with smurf accounts in a party + voice chat stomping noobs in a solo team.

[Lorska]

It really is a player base issue.
They did this at some point but once queue times started to go into the 10+ min ranges that couldn't be sustained anymore.

Really the main problem isn't even solo players because if you throw enough stuff at a wall it'll eventually form a balanced pile.
The problem is the edge cases of low/high MMR groups that would only find matches that were extremely relaxed in MMR leading to absolute ♥♥♥♥-shows.

Groups already get a hefty MMR penalty so they'll face stronger solo enemies.

Most parties are also actually quite chill and pick off meta and weird stuff to have fun.
I know that whenever I play with my pals we don't wanna spam stupid meta crap all the time.
Of course then you also have these dumb Aphro x Susano parties where you have a low MMR drooling monkey on an aphro cause buttons are hard to press and a grandmaster assassin player that decides to farm some noobs that day.

Really the obnoxious part is when you run into these casual premades that just got their asses kicked the last 5 games for playing stupid crap and now decide to actually try playing the game after tanking their MMR in the process.

Anyway, it's not gonna happen in this game, I doubt that it will in smite 2 either.
What they need is predictable MMR adjustment based on who you team up with instead of just a penalty but that's quite the sophisticated process that requires a lot of data...

[ᴆᴀʀɢᴀṣ]

mm smell and is getting rebuilt in new game

[cybercena89]

Originally posted by ᴆᴀʀɢᴀṣ:

mm smell and is getting rebuilt in new game

in a game enemy team had 2 party of 2 and my game was full solo. So simple to make a 2 man party + 2 solo against 2 party + 2 solo... i dont get it. In another game the hours played by the enemy 3 man party were 10 times the amounto of hours played by my team... you can imagine the snowballing of 3 expert players in voice chat against new or returning players that dont even know the full roster or specific builds =

[HeftyOtter]

I can agree and say yes I have also been suffering the queued against a 4-5 man premade while I end up getting the worst team in almost every match. I honestly can not enjoy this game in it's current state and I highly doubt hirez will care because they're too busy 50% off skins to make a quick buck off of gullible players stupid enough to pay for it.

[cybercena89]

and 4 man slash made it worste

[ᴆᴀʀɢᴀṣ]

Originally posted by HeftyOtter:

I can agree and say yes I have also been suffering the queued against a 4-5 man premade while I end up getting the worst team in almost every match. I honestly can not enjoy this game in it's current state and I highly doubt hirez will care because they're too busy 50% off skins to make a quick buck off of gullible players stupid enough to pay for it.

stop calling people stupid

[cybercena89]

at this point i think they queue party of experienced players against solo players, so the party that played this game for long gets the ez wins and keeps spending money on the game