Bakasura OP?

[MrSparklesx]

I know I'll get some flame for this, but here me out.

Fatalis + Baka + solo lane = you're screwed. There are a few things that stand out for me, his buff (ability 3) lasts WAY too long, its incredibly effective and does not need such a long active time!

His ult... omg.. his ult.. the cripple, the ranged attacks.. all the dead. At least remove the cripple? Or lose the ranged attacks? i don't know, but something needs to change with this God.

I also think the CD on his lifesteal (ability 2) is too short, basically just a spam eat kinda thing really so he has lotsa peel.


Discuss.

[Penitence]

Just get sprints or slows to counter him. And avoid melee range when his buff is active.

[R.]

all gods are op if they r played by somone who knows how to play them

[Penitence]

Exactly, it's whether or not you are aware how they work and their weaknesses. Unless the question is on Nox, she's just full on op.

[Leg Muscles]

"Also, does fatalis make you immune to slows? Like Curse?"
You have 400 hours on this game you should probably know the answer to this.

Midguardian + wingblade. Midguardian will stop the fatalis affect and wingblade will insure his ult is no problem ever. His eat minion is fine as is imo, last thing we needa do is nerf a God that just got buffed to the point of viable.

[EmethSAS]

Leg Muscles の投稿を引用：

"Also, does fatalis make you immune to slows? Like Curse?"
You have 400 hours on this game you should probably know the answer to this.

Midguardian + wingblade. Midguardian will stop the fatalis affect and wingblade will insure his ult is no problem ever. His eat minion is fine as is imo, last thing we needa do is nerf a God that just got buffed to the point of viable.

Agreed. Sure, he's great at boxing and his 3 is killer with the true damage when he has attack speed stacked, but he's still vulnerable to CC.

Bellona can disarm him, Vamana can dash away and knock him up, Tyr can interrupt his 3 with his CC, Ravana has his root, SWK has a knockup dash or a stun, Amaterasu has her silence... All of which give you options for making him waste at least a good portion of his 3's time, not to mention all of their ults should be good counters to Bakasura's ult, one way or another. And most of those are the major meta Warrior/Solos anyway. The most vulnerable matchups against Bakasura would probably be Odin and Guan Yu, so just be careful with those. Osiris, Chaac, and Hercules also have ways of dealing with him but they're a bit more limited, so they're closer matchups.

Yeah, he's pretty powerful right now, but really the only thing that's changed is his jungle camp control. He still has the same weaknesses and strengtha as before when everyone thought he was trash, he can just steal mid camps and boars a lot easier now, that's all. And that literally only applies to Conquest, since every other mode doesn't have big jungle monsters that aren't also buffs (except the one camp in Clash), so he's literally exactly the same as he has been since January everywhere except Conquest, but no one was complaining about him being OP until now...

It's funny how the meta works sometimes, especially when Brandon ranks Baka as S+ for SPL simply because of jungle control and now everyone is using him...

[Agent Orange]

Have you tried tapping him on the shoulder?
Works every time.

[no brains]

baka has top winrate among all assassins, so...

[TheGooeyBeans]

Bakasura is strong, but far from OP. I would rather have someone like Thor or Serqet on my team in the jungle. His true damage is what makes him dangerous in solo lane against warriors since he bypasses protections with his true damage, but as EmethSAS mentioned, there are counters to this.

Honestly, I would try and farm minion waves and avoid boxing him. By doing this you can ensure that he won't get fed (fed Baka=GG), then hopefully your team comp is stronger than your opponent's in the mid to late stages of the game. There's a reason warriors are picked in solo lane far more than any other class...they bring far more to the table in the second half of the game than Baka or Loki ever will. Odds are if you are facing a Baka solo, they still have a physical assassin in the jungle. You can exploit this greatly as the game moves on.

As for your question about Hastened Fatalis...read the passive. It removes the basic attack speed debuff on successful basic attacks so you "stick" to your target. The item also grants +10% movement speed, so you need to counter it with Midguardian, as pointed out by Leg Muscles.

Come on man :P

[TheGooeyBeans]

Crazy Catastrophe の投稿を引用：

baka has top winrate among all assassins, so...

Recently yes, but that does not mean he is OP. Baka received a minor buff at the beginning of Season 3 which has made him viable again. If you are citing the SmiteGuru graphs, he also is one of those assassins whose win rates drop the longer the game goes. As I said, fed Baka=GG. Baka's late game is still overshadowed by other picks.

I will stand by this, if your team feeds an enemy god(s) to the point that you are surrendering or having your Titan die in under twenty minutes...then you really need to evaluate your early game decision making. For example, players who pick Baka know they have a limited window to get fed and carry the game. DENY THEM THE ABILITY TO CARRY. Just don't die seven times in the first ten minutes and you should be good :)

[Poop Lord, Lord of Poop]

>playing conquest
lmao

[Agent Orange]

The Gooey Beans の投稿を引用：

Baka received a minor buff at the beginning of Season 3 which has made him viable again.

Wait wait, what was the buff, did I miss it?

[TheGooeyBeans]

Not the Illuminati (Trust me) の投稿を引用：

The Gooey Beans の投稿を引用：

Baka received a minor buff at the beginning of Season 3 which has made him viable again.

Wait wait, what was the buff, did I miss it?

SMITE Version 3.1.3217 (February 2, 2016)

General
Increased Base Physical Power Scaling from 36 → 38
Eat Minion
Increased Protection Buff duration from 5s → 10s.
Reduced Cooldown from 18/17/16/15/14 → 15s at all ranks.
Reduced Mana Cost from 75 → 55.

Then, a few months later...

SMITE Version 3.6.3346 (April 12, 2016)

Eat Minion
Bakasura can now consume any non-buff jungle creature at 100% of it's health, including Mid Harpies and Boars.

[Drcipres]

If the ult was just a slow without cripple, anyone or almost anyone can jump out of it, getting out of range of baka, and the CD on eat minion is 15s, and you wont be buying CDR most of the time, and you need to stack the passive for the ult