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SadSquidward Apr 13, 2018 @ 3:29pm
Is there a chance you will make smite 2 in the future?
Maybe it could have better grafics and be more balanced?
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RecalledDread Apr 13, 2018 @ 4:34pm 
What would be the point in making a seperate game for it?

It would split the playerbase.
It would take resources to do so, which are already stretched with the other projects they have.
Why not just update this game?

I would say, no, they almost certainly won't. And if they did, it wouldn't be any time soon. The only way I see it happening is if some amazing new technology becomes available for game developers to use that would vastly improve the experience.
SadSquidward Apr 13, 2018 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
What would be the point in making a seperate game for it?

It would split the playerbase.
It would take resources to do so, which are already stretched with the other projects they have.
Why not just update this game?

I would say, no, they almost certainly won't. And if they did, it wouldn't be any time soon. The only way I see it happening is if some amazing new technology becomes available for game developers to use that would vastly improve the experience.
Im just saying , because smite 2 would make people want to try it out , as with the current smite , people that currently dont like smite will probably never learn about the update , not to mention that the grafics will get older by the time , that goes for the maps as well , they've been the same for so long (3v3),
Last edited by SadSquidward; Apr 13, 2018 @ 4:54pm
RecalledDread Apr 13, 2018 @ 5:11pm 
Why would people want to try it out though?
What do the customers get by leaving Smite 1, to play Smite 2 instread?
What happens to their profile, and all the money spent in Smite 1? WIll it carry over? Or just start from scratch? In which case, see previous questions.

By splitting the playerbase, I mean, if people play Smite 2, which is meant to be an improvment, what entices them to leave the first game with all their skins, gods, xp levels etc?

Graphics changes don't need a new game. They have changed maps quite a few times in the past. There is no reason to change the layout and looks more than once per season - at least for the competetive ones. And again, why do this in a new game anyway? Why not just change this in Smite 1? Same goes for your balance argument.

And again, unless there is some amazing new technology that requires them to start over, why make a Smite 2 in the first place?

I'm asking you these questions so that you actually think it through, and maybe come up with a reasonable argument for doing it. The 2 reasons you gave don't need a new game at all. They can all be done in this game.
SadSquidward Apr 13, 2018 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Why would people want to try it out though?
What do the customers get by leaving Smite 1, to play Smite 2 instread?
What happens to their profile, and all the money spent in Smite 1? WIll it carry over? Or just start from scratch? In which case, see previous questions.

By splitting the playerbase, I mean, if people play Smite 2, which is meant to be an improvment, what entices them to leave the first game with all their skins, gods, xp levels etc?

Graphics changes don't need a new game. They have changed maps quite a few times in the past. There is no reason to change the layout and looks more than once per season - at least for the competetive ones. And again, why do this in a new game anyway? Why not just change this in Smite 1? Same goes for your balance argument.

And again, unless there is some amazing new technology that requires them to start over, why make a Smite 2 in the first place?

I'm asking you these questions so that you actually think it through, and maybe come up with a reasonable argument for doing it. The 2 reasons you gave don't need a new game at all. They can all be done in this game.
I dont know i may be wrong on some things here , but updating the game wont effect its playerbase much , even if they make the grafics good , still not many people will start playing . Not many people will know about the update , and not many people will start playing the game bcs they have already played it and they havent liked it , so they dont care , i thought that by making smite again , the devs would make the game a lot better , they have learned from their mistakes, and the thing that would bring more people to the game would be THE TITLE, if 1 day people see on the STEAM NEWS 'SMITE 2 HAS BEEN RELEASED ON BETA .JOIN FOR FREE' with an awesome picture ,then i can guarantee you that smite 2 will be a success, the game can be the same with just better grafics and some improvements ,
SadSquidward Apr 13, 2018 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Why would people want to try it out though?
What do the customers get by leaving Smite 1, to play Smite 2 instread?
What happens to their profile, and all the money spent in Smite 1? WIll it carry over? Or just start from scratch? In which case, see previous questions.

By splitting the playerbase, I mean, if people play Smite 2, which is meant to be an improvment, what entices them to leave the first game with all their skins, gods, xp levels etc?

Graphics changes don't need a new game. They have changed maps quite a few times in the past. There is no reason to change the layout and looks more than once per season - at least for the competetive ones. And again, why do this in a new game anyway? Why not just change this in Smite 1? Same goes for your balance argument.

And again, unless there is some amazing new technology that requires them to start over, why make a Smite 2 in the first place?

I'm asking you these questions so that you actually think it through, and maybe come up with a reasonable argument for doing it. The 2 reasons you gave don't need a new game at all. They can all be done in this game.
but still the game will need lots and lots of updates to become nice
Silver Apr 13, 2018 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Why would people want to try it out though?
What do the customers get by leaving Smite 1, to play Smite 2 instread?
What happens to their profile, and all the money spent in Smite 1? WIll it carry over? Or just start from scratch? In which case, see previous questions.

By splitting the playerbase, I mean, if people play Smite 2, which is meant to be an improvment, what entices them to leave the first game with all their skins, gods, xp levels etc?

Graphics changes don't need a new game. They have changed maps quite a few times in the past. There is no reason to change the layout and looks more than once per season - at least for the competetive ones. And again, why do this in a new game anyway? Why not just change this in Smite 1? Same goes for your balance argument.

And again, unless there is some amazing new technology that requires them to start over, why make a Smite 2 in the first place?

I'm asking you these questions so that you actually think it through, and maybe come up with a reasonable argument for doing it. The 2 reasons you gave don't need a new game at all. They can all be done in this game.
I dont know i may be wrong on some things here , but updating the game wont effect its playerbase much , even if they make the grafics good , still not many people will start playing . Not many people will know about the update , and not many people will start playing the game bcs they have already played it and they havent liked it , so they dont care , i thought that by making smite again , the devs would make the game a lot better , they have learned from their mistakes, and the thing that would bring more people to the game would be THE TITLE, if 1 day people see on the STEAM NEWS 'SMITE 2 HAS BEEN RELEASED ON BETA .JOIN FOR FREE' with an awesome picture ,then i can guarantee you that smite 2 will be a success, the game can be the same with just better grafics and some improvements ,

MOBA's don't need sequals, and we don't count DOTA 2, because the original was just a mod. They don't really need to update the graphics, because Hi-Rez isn't going to make it look like Paragon, they will keep it their style. If the graphics were to be for some reason updated, this will put more stress on older hardware and alienate players with weaker PCs (Though this depends on how far they would go with graphics if decided). SMITE is an E-sports game, and they want as many people to play as possible, so being on UE3 and having less demanding graphics, it allows more people to play, that isn't to say that UE4 can't be less demanding either, but will limit its capabilities with older PCs. Smacking a "2" next to SMITE wouldn't do anything but look... New? What are they going to do? Add new Gods? Wait they're already doing that. They update the game and "balance" it every 2 weeks.
I wouldn't mind seeing SMITE on a modern engine, but I don't think Hi-Rez has the resources and time to do so, and Recalled Dead has made some legitimate points.
MischievousSpyra Apr 13, 2018 @ 9:22pm 
I believe, they released a pack that had better graphics but not entirely sure.
Riflas Apr 13, 2018 @ 10:43pm 
It would be best if Hi-Rez sold this game to another company that actually cares.
RecalledDread Apr 14, 2018 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
I dont know i may be wrong on some things here , but updating the game wont effect its playerbase much , even if they make the grafics good , still not many people will start playing . Not many people will know about the update , and not many people will start playing the game bcs they have already played it and they havent liked it , so they dont care , i thought that by making smite again , the devs would make the game a lot better , they have learned from their mistakes, and the thing that would bring more people to the game would be THE TITLE, if 1 day people see on the STEAM NEWS 'SMITE 2 HAS BEEN RELEASED ON BETA .JOIN FOR FREE' with an awesome picture ,then i can guarantee you that smite 2 will be a success, the game can be the same with just better grafics and some improvements ,

Ok, so;
- Making a new game, Smite 2, will not make current players swap over just because "GRAPHICS YAY!" It doesn't work like that. You might have a lot of the current players check it out. But I doubt they'd stick around.

- Smite 2 would likely not adopt the Smite 1 playerbase (see above), which is why I am asking you to think of why you would need to do a sequel. You need something to bring them over, and make them stay.

- If you say it's only for players that tried it out and left, why would they try it out again (you even said, they wouldn't even know/care about the sequel)? What would make them stay if they did?

- Steam news isn't going to cut it. Not for the amount of work needed to make a new game that is similar. HiRez isn't a giant company, they do have limited resources, which means stopping development on Smite 1 - bad idea. Currrent playerbase would get very annoyed at this, and likely wouldn't even touch another HiRez game for a while, let alone play a similar one with better graphics being the only real draw.

If it's the same with just some better graphics and improvements;
Why make a new game?
Why not just update this one?
Why not keep the current playerbase, continue to make money on it, and just improve Smite 1?
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Sweatington Apr 14, 2018 @ 5:34am 
Oh yeah let's make a sequel to an allready garbage tier game. What could go wrong lmao.
SadSquidward Apr 14, 2018 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Searching the Darkweeb:
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
I dont know i may be wrong on some things here , but updating the game wont effect its playerbase much , even if they make the grafics good , still not many people will start playing . Not many people will know about the update , and not many people will start playing the game bcs they have already played it and they havent liked it , so they dont care , i thought that by making smite again , the devs would make the game a lot better , they have learned from their mistakes, and the thing that would bring more people to the game would be THE TITLE, if 1 day people see on the STEAM NEWS 'SMITE 2 HAS BEEN RELEASED ON BETA .JOIN FOR FREE' with an awesome picture ,then i can guarantee you that smite 2 will be a success, the game can be the same with just better grafics and some improvements ,

MOBA's don't need sequals, and we don't count DOTA 2, because the original was just a mod. They don't really need to update the graphics, because Hi-Rez isn't going to make it look like Paragon, they will keep it their style. If the graphics were to be for some reason updated, this will put more stress on older hardware and alienate players with weaker PCs (Though this depends on how far they would go with graphics if decided). SMITE is an E-sports game, and they want as many people to play as possible, so being on UE3 and having less demanding graphics, it allows more people to play, that isn't to say that UE4 can't be less demanding either, but will limit its capabilities with older PCs. Smacking a "2" next to SMITE wouldn't do anything but look... New? What are they going to do? Add new Gods? Wait they're already doing that. They update the game and "balance" it every 2 weeks.
I wouldn't mind seeing SMITE on a modern engine, but I don't think Hi-Rez has the resources and time to do so, and Recalled Dead has made some legitimate points.
Yeah but couldnt they keep the Very low - low -medium grafics the same and only change the high and the maxinum settings to look nicer? i mean smite is a great game especially for people with bad pcs, but for people with a good pc that they can play other games like pubg and ♥♥♥♥, there are not many players that are gonna choose smite rather than these games
RecalledDread Apr 14, 2018 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
Yeah but couldnt they keep the Very low - low -medium grafics the same and only change the high and the maxinum settings to look nicer? i mean smite is a great game especially for people with bad pcs, but for people with a good pc that they can play other games like pubg and ♥♥♥♥, there are not many players that are gonna choose smite rather than these games

You are comparing Smite to PUBG. Very different games, with very different experiences.

The graphics for Smite are not bad, and they aren't even taht bad at lower settings. But as has already been mentioned, players often lower them to see things easier during fights.

And again (!) why would a new game be needed for this, It takes resources away from a company which might not be able to afford the risk purely for the graphics.

Stop repeating this same point, as it is not a good argument. If you can come up with an actualy reason why a sequel should be made, and why it would be worth the time, then do so. Otherwise, you are just saying the same thing over and over.

So, before posting again, think about the following;
- What would make the risk worth it for HiRez?
- What would make the current playerbase swap over to play the sequel?
- What purpose would a sequel serve, that they can't do with the current game?

If the only thing changing is the graphics, no one from the current player base is going to swap over, unless they get all of their skins etc in the new game (and improving graphics can already be done in the current one).
If that happens though, HiRez makes no money from the current playerbase, so they would likely have to sell the game, rather than make it F2P.
Which then means new players are less likely to just try it out.
And older players who didn't like it won't come back (because the only difference is graphics).

I've got a decent PC, and would still rather play Smite than most games that are out. Better graphics or not. People who play games purely for the graphics aren't likely to stick around for a MOBA anyway.
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
Yeah but couldnt they keep the Very low - low -medium grafics the same and only change the high and the maxinum settings to look nicer? i mean smite is a great game especially for people with bad pcs, but for people with a good pc that they can play other games like pubg and ♥♥♥♥, there are not many players that are gonna choose smite rather than these games

You are comparing Smite to PUBG. Very different games, with very different experiences.

The graphics for Smite are not bad, and they aren't even taht bad at lower settings. But as has already been mentioned, players often lower them to see things easier during fights.

And again (!) why would a new game be needed for this, It takes resources away from a company which might not be able to afford the risk purely for the graphics.

Stop repeating this same point, as it is not a good argument. If you can come up with an actualy reason why a sequel should be made, and why it would be worth the time, then do so. Otherwise, you are just saying the same thing over and over.

So, before posting again, think about the following;
- What would make the risk worth it for HiRez?
- What would make the current playerbase swap over to play the sequel?
- What purpose would a sequel serve, that they can't do with the current game?

If the only thing changing is the graphics, no one from the current player base is going to swap over, unless they get all of their skins etc in the new game (and improving graphics can already be done in the current one).
If that happens though, HiRez makes no money from the current playerbase, so they would likely have to sell the game, rather than make it F2P.
Which then means new players are less likely to just try it out.
And older players who didn't like it won't come back (because the only difference is graphics).

I've got a decent PC, and would still rather play Smite than most games that are out. Better graphics or not. People who play games purely for the graphics aren't likely to stick around for a MOBA anyway.
I mean we do want better character designs and smoothing ofc, I dont want to be playing a minecraft character in a MOBA
Last edited by Fantasminha Brincalhão; Apr 14, 2018 @ 8:33am
Cobrazi Apr 14, 2018 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Sad Squidward:
Maybe it could have better grafics and be more balanced?

Lol Smite is best looking moba after paragon.
Try high res texture pack and 200% resolution scale.
TexArcane Apr 14, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
It's a f2p. Hi-Rez updates the models and maps semi-frequently so there isn't a need to release Smite 2 just like there's no LoL 2. Personally, I wish Smite had multi-level maps like Paragon did but I don't see that happening.

I could *almost* argue Paladins is Smite 2 already. It just doesn't have some of the features that make a MOBA what it is. If it wasn't so much like Overwatch, I'd play Paladins instead.
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