Conquest - Who to avoid?

[strike478]

What are Bottom Five for each Lane/Role? Who should I avoid when making purchases?

[no brains]

I made you a small list, based on stats and last buffs/nerfs. Can write a few words about any god on list, if you want. Many ppl will disagree with me, but I hate scylla and nox mains so it's ok. Don't get me wrong, I like playing Neith for example, but she's simply bad these times.

Worst gods overall - Janus, Neith, Nox

Mid - Janus, Nox, Morrigan, Thoth, Scylla

Adc - Neith, Hou Yi, Rama, Apollo, Xbalanque

Supp - Kumbha, Fafnir, Kuzenbo, Ymir

Jungle - Fenrir, Thor

Solo - Tyr, Hercules, Loki

[ayebeesea]

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

I made you a small list, based on stats and last buffs/nerfs. Can write a few words about any god on list, if you want. Many ppl will disagree with me, but I hate scylla and nox mains so it's ok. Don't get me wrong, I like playing Neith for example, but she's simply bad these times.

Worst gods overall - Janus, Neith, Nox

Mid - Janus, Nox, Morrigan, Thoth, Scylla

Adc - Neith, Hou Yi, Rama, Apollo, Xbalanque

Supp - Kumbha, Fafnir, Kuzenbo, Ymir

Jungle - Fenrir, Thor

Solo - Tyr, Hercules, Loki

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

[no brains]

Originally posted by ayebeesea:

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

Janus sucks. Worst god overall. Hinders his overall team performance. All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him. Janus sucks in all gamemodes badly, less in conquest, still bad.

[Ripoff Hobo]

iv seen alot of pro teams use him on the torn streams on the highrez twitch channal all the time he brings alot of moblity to the team as a whole for teamfights its getting the team to work together in pubs is the issue not the god

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

Originally posted by ayebeesea:

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

Janus sucks. Worst god overall. Hinders his overall team performance. All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him. Janus sucks in all gamemodes badly, less in conquest, still bad.

[Mother of Exiles]

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

I made you a small list, based on stats and last buffs/nerfs. Can write a few words about any god on list, if you want. Many ppl will disagree with me, but I hate scylla and nox mains so it's ok. Don't get me wrong, I like playing Neith for example, but she's simply bad these times.

Worst gods overall - Janus, Neith, Nox

Mid - Janus, Nox, Morrigan, Thoth, Scylla

Adc - Neith, Hou Yi, Rama, Apollo, Xbalanque

Supp - Kumbha, Fafnir, Kuzenbo, Ymir

Jungle - Fenrir, Thor

Solo - Tyr, Hercules, Loki

Just because someone defends a god, doesn't make them a main of them.
And assuming this list is all saying the worse ones. Just about all of it is wrong or there are far worse gods for it
Example: Loki or Bakasura for Jungle are worse than Fenrir or Thor
Especially Thor, given his ult lets you get across the map into a team fight far easier, he has a good stun and wall block to keep enmies from treat, and his aoe can take care of some tricky gods along with fighting at a buff camp better.
Fenrir while being weaker, if build with cooldowns can be pretty strong as well as long as he keeps track of his passive

[Mother of Exiles]

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

Originally posted by ayebeesea:

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

Janus sucks. Worst god overall. Hinders his overall team performance. All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him. Janus sucks in all gamemodes badly, less in conquest, still bad.

How so? High ass damage, a good escape that doubles with letting a team get away, along with if put on the ground makes the enemy completely helpess for a good second.
His wave clear is good even if his other ability isn't straight as long as he can aim it right, while his speed ability can be considered weak, it allows more movement and doubles as a slow
His ult goes without mention of the team works together they can literally travel across the whole map

What Janus takes it more teamwork, but in that. He is no way the weakest god

[no brains]

Originally posted by Ripoff Hobo:

iv seen alot of pro teams use him on the torn streams on the highrez twitch channal all the time he brings alot of moblity to the team as a whole for teamfights its getting the team to work together in pubs is the issue not the god\

There is a difference between 5v5 pro matches with communication and ranked conquest.

[Ripoff Hobo]

Originally posted by Neko Cup in the tree:

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

Janus sucks. Worst god overall. Hinders his overall team performance. All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him. Janus sucks in all gamemodes badly, less in conquest, still bad.

How so? High ass damage, a good escape that doubles with letting a team get away, along with if put on the ground makes the enemy completely helpess for a good second.
His wave clear is good even if his other ability isn't straight as long as he can aim it right, while his speed ability can be considered weak, it allows more movement and doubles as a slow
His ult goes without mention of the team works together they can literally travel across the whole map

What Janus takes it more teamwork, but in that. He is no way the weakest god

im 100% with this guy just because bad stats dosnt mean weak god i mean nox 2 alone is a huge gamechanger in team fights and winrate dont mean much in the long run you could have plenty of loss before a god really sticks god knows i sucked balls at serqet for the longist time b4 i saw someone who knew what they were doing gave me pointers i still suck but no whare near as much as when i first started

[no brains]

Originally posted by Ripoff Hobo:

bad stats dosnt mean weak god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMh4_ak6r4

[Mother of Exiles]

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

Originally posted by Ripoff Hobo:

bad stats dosnt mean weak god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMh4_ak6r4

I think what he means is people doing badly with them. A god can be really good, but people can do horribly with them

[no brains]

Originally posted by Neko Cup in the tree:

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMh4_ak6r4

I think what he means is people doing badly with them. A god can be really good, but people can do horribly with them

So it's people bad, not god. And Bacchus is having sex with everyone using dominant position in 3v3 just because people is doing badly against him. And AMC having 70% winratio in duel just because people is doing badly against him. Some gods are simply a lot worse than others.

[Mother of Exiles]

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

Originally posted by Neko Cup in the tree:

I think what he means is people doing badly with them. A god can be really good, but people can do horribly with them

So it's people bad, not god. And Bacchus is having sex with everyone using dominant position in 3v3 just because people is doing badly against him. And AMC having 70% winratio in duel just because people is doing badly against him. Some gods are simply a lot worse than others.

Straw man fallacy, never said some gods are not worse than others, or that others are not stronger than others.
His statement seemed to go at what you said " All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him". Which given Janus's kit is pretty strong, points to more that the Janus mains you've seen had been bad at him.
Along with if we want to bring up experiences, I've seen a lot of pretty good janus mains.

[Leg Muscles]

Originally posted by ayebeesea:

Originally posted by crazy-catastrophe:

I made you a small list, based on stats and last buffs/nerfs. Can write a few words about any god on list, if you want. Many ppl will disagree with me, but I hate scylla and nox mains so it's ok. Don't get me wrong, I like playing Neith for example, but she's simply bad these times.

Worst gods overall - Janus, Neith, Nox

Mid - Janus, Nox, Morrigan, Thoth, Scylla

Adc - Neith, Hou Yi, Rama, Apollo, Xbalanque

Supp - Kumbha, Fafnir, Kuzenbo, Ymir

Jungle - Fenrir, Thor

Solo - Tyr, Hercules, Loki

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ his list actually hurt me.

[RoofCat]

long story short that list is questionable at best. For example Janus in the right hands is almost impossible to catch while doing tons of damage. Hou yi one of worst hunters - since when?
Hercules for solo lane in one line with Loki?

As for purchases - just get god pack on discount for 15$ and master them all. It will help you to understand your enemies the very least. Best god often is the one you can play good.

[no brains]

Originally posted by Neko Cup in the tree:

Straw man fallacy, never said some gods are not worse than others, or that others are not stronger than others.
His statement seemed to go at what you said " All Janus mains I seen had like 49% winrate on him". Which given Janus's kit is pretty strong, points to more that the Janus mains you've seen had been bad at him.
Along with if we want to bring up experiences, I've seen a lot of pretty good janus mains.

Good for you. And I'll prefer having Hades main in my team.

Originally posted by Leg Muscles:

Originally posted by ayebeesea:

Disregard this entire list simply due to him starting the list of worst mid laners with Janus

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ his list actually hurt me.

I'm glad to hear this.