Nemesis

[Chad Thundercock]

Will she ever get a buff or rework? In a game that almost every god has a CC ability she just seems.... worthless.

[Ashley]

Might as well just change her sword to a piece of paper cause that's how it feels to be hit by her. Reddit complained so much about release nemesis she got nerfed into oblivion

[Ashley]

Originally posted by Perfectly Valid School of Magic:

Don't think lv 5 can do PVP. And quests only count in PVP games

What does this have to do with the topic?

[Perfectly Valid School of Magic]

Originally posted by Not Lorenz:

Originally posted by Perfectly Valid School of Magic:

Don't think lv 5 can do PVP. And quests only count in PVP games

What does this have to do with the topic?

Must've posted in the wrong thread.

[Chad Thundercock]

Originally posted by Not Lorenz:

Might as well just change her sword to a piece of paper cause that's how it feels to be hit by her. Reddit complained so much about release nemesis she got nerfed into oblivion

It's sad because she was once pretty balanced but her early game is so bad that it's not worth playing her.

[LukanGamer]

she was to nerfed that true, but she still decent (not as good as many) just have to get in get out a lot and only trully engage in good situations (since she cant cc enemy quite enough or do the damage of some).

[Chad Thundercock]

Originally posted by LukanGamer:

she was to nerfed that true, but she still decent (not as good as many) just have to get in get out a lot and only trully engage in good situations (since she cant cc enemy quite enough or do the damage of some).

She has hardly any damage though, her shield is completely worthless in this meta of cc and her ult is kinda lack luster.

[Mossy Snake]

She got a buff recently but it wasn't enough, I agree she needs some love but dear god can she get a redesign first

Her kit looks cool on paper but her design is so terrible I can't bring myself to even attempt to learn her. Some of her skins are nice but ehhhhh

[LukanGamer]

seen plenty do terrific with her and I have done so as well (idk about current meta try hard conquest couldn't care less about it, but other modes).

Way way back I did however play with a friend with either me or him playing her and other aphro before others ever seemed to and we would lol at people that beach and complain seeing our picks in ranked conquest just for us to end up dominating :D good days .... (aphro kiss buff+cc on top of occasional nemi ult probably could still work relatively well though idk probably would be to lil damage or requireing the ults and therefore to much time).

[Ashley]

I see more do horribly with her than I see people doing decent with. The typical not even 10k dmg 30 mins in and has got 1/10 kinda awful. I just expect people who choose nemesis to do completely terrible and that usually holds true in my experience. I expect a loss when someone chooses nemesis and that's usually what happens. I don't play conquest but in other modes she's pretty much deleted the second she tries anything. Judging by at least my experience very underwhelming compared to what she once was.

[✌Husker54✌]

problem is every recent god release has shown that gods now are just bloated af and have too much ♥♥♥♥ . and they also keep releaseing multipul stance gods .. does my head in

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by ✌Husker54✌:

problem is every recent god release has shown that gods now are just bloated af and have too much ♥♥♥♥ . and they also keep releaseing multipul stance gods .. does my head in

eh Mulan's honestly super tame, and Set/Horus weren't problematic either

Problem is that they added ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Yemoja to the game. I was around for some of the really busted releases and none of them were nearly as obnoxious as her

[LukanGamer]

Originally posted by Mossy Snake:

Originally posted by ✌Husker54✌:

problem is every recent god release has shown that gods now are just bloated af and have too much ♥♥♥♥ . and they also keep releaseing multipul stance gods .. does my head in

eh Mulan's honestly super tame, and Set/Horus weren't problematic either

Problem is that they added ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Yemoja to the game. I was around for some of the really busted releases and none of them were nearly as obnoxious as her

ummm Yemoja is not busted / op or or even obnoxious her cd/mana is far to low to be that annoying and she for vast majority of the time is very very easy to dodge I mean all of her abilities require time, set easy patern, and are very visible.
I am guessing you just ran into a couple really good players of her and just have yet to get used to her.
Also would for sure say Horus (and more so then that even Set) are far better and even obnoxious (though Set requires skilled player to be great, but remains easily "annoying").

(o and to above don't see anything wrong with people with multiple stances and don't find their to really be all that many --> I mean to me worst part is most them lose a fancy ult still balanced but no ult = :( )

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by LukanGamer:

Originally posted by Mossy Snake:

eh Mulan's honestly super tame, and Set/Horus weren't problematic either

Problem is that they added ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Yemoja to the game. I was around for some of the really busted releases and none of them were nearly as obnoxious as her

ummm Yemoja is not busted / op or or even obnoxious her cd/mana is far to low to be that annoying and she for vast majority of the time is very very easy to dodge I mean all of her abilities require time, set easy patern, and are very visible.
I am guessing you just ran into a couple really good players of her and just have yet to get used to her.
Also would for sure say Horus (and more so then that even Set) are far better and even obnoxious (though Set requires skilled player to be great, but remains easily "annoying").

(o and to above don't see anything wrong with people with multiple stances and don't find their to really be all that many --> I mean to me worst part is most them lose a fancy ult still balanced but no ult = :( )

Yemoja was literally the top ban goddess until last patch, and is still the 5th most banned with a titanic winrate considering her banrate and pickrate:
https://smite.gg/god/yemoja

If you could manage Omni somewhat decently it was possible to nearly permastun with your 1 until she got nerfed, and even then the sheer number of crap she can lob is really irritating.

Also "her cdr/manas are bad" is a ????????? statement considering she has instant cooldowns and an infinite mana pool that regens fairly quickly with 1-2 mana items and almost instantly regens under the effects of her ult, which is easily the best anti-siege ult in the game.

You see her banned in pretty much every SPL/SML match and she's widely considered one of, if not the best support in the game rn

Horus and Set are both great gods but I never really felt either were as big of an issue aside from when you saw Set in every lane a few patches back.

[LukanGamer]

^ again I personaly don't care at all for Conquest, talking the other 90% of game or another way to put it her/gods average capability not her capability in Ranked/conquest.

And ya she gets infinite mana etc... but she can't even cast all her abilities 1x without waiting even when maxed out she still takes decent time to be able to mass cast compared to most others (who decked out don't even have to worry about mana any ways--> heck some reason favoritism likely many gods barely have to worry about mana very quickly).

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by LukanGamer:

^ again I personaly don't care at all for Conquest, talking the other 90% of game or another way to put it her/gods average capability not her capability in Ranked/conquest.

And ya she gets infinite mana etc... but she can't even cast all her abilities 1x without waiting even when maxed out she still takes decent time to be able to mass cast compared to most others (who decked out don't even have to worry about mana any ways--> heck some reason favoritism likely many gods barely have to worry about mana very quickly).

https://smite.gg/god/yemoja
her stats are even better in Joust lmao, she's objectively at her weakest in Conquest - the main competitive mode the entire game is balanced around - and even there she's one of the best gods in the game with a huge winrate, playrate, and banrate. She's objectively one of the best gods in the game lmao, her design is extremely dumb because she brings so much to the table with zero downsides. She can spam with no penalty as long as she times her ult properly and buys the right items, and neither of those things are hard to do. Her damage isn't even bad (and she deals bonus damage to all shields) which is especially jarring because once again she has no cooldowns. Hell, even her healing is good. While its not the largest burst of heals in the game the fact she can spam her 2 so often in conjunction with her autos is just nuts.

Arena doesn't matter and her clash stats are pretty good too according to CasualSmite.