for all the geb mains

[Lemonboy]

how do you play geb like good because I am new and have no idea what to do

[LukanGamer]

get in their and smash then roll your ball until its at its peak filled and ready to burst on them preferably towards your home unless you or your friends got to go and then don't forget to put on protection on whoever needs it most.

[Silver]

You shield a teammate being targeted, then peel the hell out of them until you piss off the enemy assassin and make them RQ.

And blink ult.

[Coe⁧⁧✔️[Quality Control]]

Originally posted by lemonboy:

how do you play geb like good because I am new and have no idea what to do

The winning move is to not play Geb due to him being generally awful as a guardian. Here's a list why:


1. His only defensive feature is anti-crit.. Which doesn't work against the deathbringer (meta crit item). Even so, people/hunters with half a brain will simply avoid building crit all together if they see you.

2. His one redeeming feature, the shielding ability cannot be improved due to it having level scaling rather than power scaling, causing it to be completely irrelevant mid to late game when people hit like trucks. It also doesn't stop executes which makes it borderline useless most of the time.. It's literally the active barrier item, but only for one person and it cleanses things when applied (giving no immunity) with a massive 20 second cd.

3. His Roll Out ability is EXTREMELY loud, butchering not only your ability to surprise people but also your turning capacity. It's "iconic" enough making anyone that is even remotely experienced playing Smite able to avoid you and any practical use of that ability with little to no effort.

[RecalledDread]

Originally posted by Coe:

Originally posted by lemonboy:

how do you play geb like good because I am new and have no idea what to do

The winning move is to not play Geb due to him being generally awful as a guardian. Here's a list why:


1. His only defensive feature is anti-crit.. Which doesn't work against the deathbringer (meta crit item). Even so, people/hunters with half a brain will simply avoid building crit all together if they see you.

2. His one redeeming feature, the shielding ability cannot be improved due to it having level scaling rather than power scaling, causing it to be completely irrelevant mid to late game when people hit like trucks. It also doesn't stop executes which makes it borderline useless most of the time.. It's literally the active barrier item, but only for one person and it cleanses things when applied (giving no immunity) with a massive 20 second cd.

3. His Roll Out ability is EXTREMELY loud, butchering not only your ability to surprise people but also your turning capacity. It's "iconic" enough making anyone that is even remotely experienced playing Smite able to avoid you and any practical use of that ability with little to no effort.

1 - His shield is his other defensive feature. Plus the 2 and ultimate being used defensively where needed.

2 - His shield is invaluable. It cleanses CC, and gives a decent amount of temporary health. Sure, it doesn't stop executes, but very little does. There also aren't many execute abilities in the game.

3 - His 1 is hard to use, but the slow it provides when not fully charged can be very useful during a fight, gank, or even saving a teammate.

[SUNFLΩWER]

Originally posted by Coe:

Originally posted by lemonboy:

how do you play geb like good because I am new and have no idea what to do

The winning move is to not play Geb due to him being generally awful as a guardian. Here's a list why:


1. His only defensive feature is anti-crit.. Which doesn't work against the deathbringer (meta crit item). Even so, people/hunters with half a brain will simply avoid building crit all together if they see you.

2. His one redeeming feature, the shielding ability cannot be improved due to it having level scaling rather than power scaling, causing it to be completely irrelevant mid to late game when people hit like trucks. It also doesn't stop executes which makes it borderline useless most of the time.. It's literally the active barrier item, but only for one person and it cleanses things when applied (giving no immunity) with a massive 20 second cd.

3. His Roll Out ability is EXTREMELY loud, butchering not only your ability to surprise people but also your turning capacity. It's "iconic" enough making anyone that is even remotely experienced playing Smite able to avoid you and any practical use of that ability with little to no effort.

this is a bad take from someone who is new or bad at the game. I'll breakdown everything wrong here and then explain why geb has been like top 6 guardians since season 2

1. his only defensive feature (minus you being able to far away knock up opponents, slow them with your 1, cleanse cc/protect with your shield, and stun for 2s with your ult aka your ENTIRE kit) is apparently anti crit and if you think any hunter is going to cease building crit because they see a geb, you're high as ♥♥♥♥
crit is built to blow up mages who have cast their abilities or are on CD, and for hunters/assassins who are out of position. if the enemy team is mostly tanky, you dont build crit anyway because you need penetration to DO the damage that crit would do before resistances are applied.

2. geb doesn't need power as his ultimate does 40% of your HP at full level as true damage,,, and as geb you arent even looking to do damage outright, you are MADE to peel, your damage is just a plus. your shield again breaks cc and shields for a fair amount of hp - pretty much eats a nox 2 or Hercules boulder. also - sorry that it doesn't stop one of the maybe 6 executes in the entire game (scylla, thanatos, ao kuang, Achilles, probably 2 more i missed) and if you arent building cdr items because 20% cdr on one item is broken, i dont know what to tell you other than use one of the 15 defensive items with 10% cdr added to it. shoguns, breastplate of valor, cdr boots, genjis etc

3. this ability is great for rotations, solid for slows on enemy characters with low mobility, and good for when you understand you're losing the teamfight and need to get yourself out (unless they're ontop of you.) but if gebs worst ability is an ability that makes you move up to 700 movespeed, slows enemies, makes you cc immune and even knocks enemies into harm's way - then jeez dude just call geb f tier I guess.


long story short op: geb is great because geb works with every single hunter or mage you could pit him with. no mage suffers from blink ult/blink knockup. i'm talking blink knockup into Poseidon kraken, nox 2, Scylla kit, agni bomb dump, ra snipe, the list goes on and on and the only time you can miss a geb ability is either on rollout or you're too close to your teammate and accidentally shield yourself. geb works with every mage and every hunter perfectly.

[SUNFLΩWER]

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

Originally posted by Coe:

The winning move is to not play Geb due to him being generally awful as a guardian. Here's a list why:


1. His only defensive feature is anti-crit.. Which doesn't work against the deathbringer (meta crit item). Even so, people/hunters with half a brain will simply avoid building crit all together if they see you.

2. His one redeeming feature, the shielding ability cannot be improved due to it having level scaling rather than power scaling, causing it to be completely irrelevant mid to late game when people hit like trucks. It also doesn't stop executes which makes it borderline useless most of the time.. It's literally the active barrier item, but only for one person and it cleanses things when applied (giving no immunity) with a massive 20 second cd.

3. His Roll Out ability is EXTREMELY loud, butchering not only your ability to surprise people but also your turning capacity. It's "iconic" enough making anyone that is even remotely experienced playing Smite able to avoid you and any practical use of that ability with little to no effort.

1 - His shield is his other defensive feature. Plus the 2 and ultimate being used defensively where needed.

2 - His shield is invaluable. It cleanses CC, and gives a decent amount of temporary health. Sure, it doesn't stop executes, but very little does. There also aren't many execute abilities in the game.

3 - His 1 is hard to use, but the slow it provides when not fully charged can be very useful during a fight, gank, or even saving a teammate.

you got to some of my points before me, but glad you showed up

[RecalledDread]

Originally posted by sunflΩwer:

2. geb doesn't need power as his ultimate does 40% of your HP at full level as true damage,,, and as geb you arent even looking to do damage outright, you are MADE to peel, your damage is just a plus. your shield again breaks cc and shields for a fair amount of hp - pretty much eats a nox 2 or Hercules boulder. also - sorry that it doesn't stop one of the maybe 6 executes in the entire game (scylla, thanatos, ao kuang, Achilles, probably 2 more i missed) and if you arent building cdr items because 20% cdr on one item is broken, i dont know what to tell you other than use one of the 15 defensive items with 10% cdr added to it. shoguns, breastplate of valor, cdr boots, genjis etc

Scylla isn't an execute.
I think it's just Thanatos, Ao Kuang, Achilles (and Morrigan if she turns into 1 of them, so 4 max in a game).

[SUNFLΩWER]

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

Originally posted by sunflΩwer:

2. geb doesn't need power as his ultimate does 40% of your HP at full level as true damage,,, and as geb you arent even looking to do damage outright, you are MADE to peel, your damage is just a plus. your shield again breaks cc and shields for a fair amount of hp - pretty much eats a nox 2 or Hercules boulder. also - sorry that it doesn't stop one of the maybe 6 executes in the entire game (scylla, thanatos, ao kuang, Achilles, probably 2 more i missed) and if you arent building cdr items because 20% cdr on one item is broken, i dont know what to tell you other than use one of the 15 defensive items with 10% cdr added to it. shoguns, breastplate of valor, cdr boots, genjis etc

Scylla isn't an execute.
I think it's just Thanatos, Ao Kuang, Achilles (and Morrigan if she turns into 1 of them, so 4 max in a game).

it's not an execute, but think of it like an Achilles execute - 1 kill resets the ability to kill low health targets again. it's not a true execute but works the same as Achilles.

[RecalledDread]

Originally posted by sunflΩwer:

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

Scylla isn't an execute.
I think it's just Thanatos, Ao Kuang, Achilles (and Morrigan if she turns into 1 of them, so 4 max in a game).

it's not an execute, but think of it like an Achilles execute - 1 kill resets the ability to kill low health targets again. it's not a true execute but works the same as Achilles.

That persons point was that it doesn't stop executes. Which it doesn't. It DOES stop Scylla if she doesn't outdamage the shield + health remaining, which is why I made the distinction.

Besides, Achilles execute is the only one to act that way.

[Chad Thundercock]

There's better guardians then geb, use them rather then him right now.

[Coe⁧⁧✔️[Quality Control]]

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

1 - His shield is his other defensive feature. Plus the 2 and ultimate being used defensively where needed.

You don't ever use the shield on yourself as a defensive feature unless it's very early in the game. The absorb is tiny, doesn't scale, has a 20 second cooldown, can't be used when you're stunned which renders the cleanse more often than not useless for you and has to manually be aimed & activated.

Also, CC isn't a defensive feature unless it's triggered by damage in some way. It's just CC.

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

2 - His shield is invaluable. It cleanses CC, and gives a decent amount of temporary health. Sure, it doesn't stop executes, but very little does.

Aegis does, which is not only free but can also be activated with a single button press over being manually aimed and clicked on like Geb's shield as i said.. That, or you could play an actual support that offers 'way' more than Geb ever will in form of healing or buffing. The cleanse IS nice, but then Hel exists that has an AOE CLEANSE with a 12 SECOND COOLDOWN that also GIVES YOU 1.5 SECONDS OF IMMUNITY.. AND she can heal you out of execute threshholds.

That, or allies will panic pop stuff like beads, making said shielding useless to begin with.

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

3 - His 1 is hard to use, but the slow it provides when not fully charged can be very useful during a fight, gank, or even saving a teammate.

Or you could stun/disable multiple people for several seconds playing Ymir, Ganesha, Fafnir, Cabrakan, Bacchus, Athena, Artio, Tera..

Or heavily displace them playing Sobek, Ares, Kuzenbo, Cerberus, Khepri and Sylvanus.

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Like the guy above me just said, Geb is complete and utter garbage when compared to basically any other guardian/support. He has a wretched 44-46% winrate which makes me legitimately confused as to why the people in this thread would try to trick you into thinking otherwise:

https://i.imgur.com/aRjHhqX.png

He has been in need of a rework for YEARS as he's got extremely long cooldowns on stuff with minor impact, a passive that doesn't really work and an ult revolving around HP % damage.

[RecalledDread]

First of all, defensive doesn't explicitly mean your own defence. Defending an ally, or at a stretch, a location (zoning) or towers (Emperors Armour) are also defensive actions.

Yes, you do use shields on yourself depending on context. If there is no need to use it on yourself it can;
- Delay your death, sometimes even long enough for team mates to come save you/avenge you
- Cleanse CC on yourself
- Mean the enemy has to use more damaging abilities to finally kill you/kill you quickly (gives your team a bit of breathing room)
- It can also be used for tanking towers, and since you have defence it will last longer on you than an ally

As for CC with no damage only being CC. Freya Banish, Janus Portal (CC isn't triggered by damage).
Even abilities like Poseidon Kraken can be used defensively when someone jumps on you. Among many other abilities. It's about context again.

Aegis shouldn't be bought on tanks. No exceptions.
For other gods, sure. It's something you can activate yourself, and not rely on Geb for. However, it also doesn't allow you to fight back or escape. You can't use dashes/leaps, and you can't fight in any way during those 2 seconds. There's also a decent chance you'll still die after it's effect is over.

Healing is easily countered by Antiheal. Geb Shield will most likely still be better if you are effected by Antiheal (which is extremely easy to build into on everyone). Also makes it less likely to avoid execute threshold.
Geb Shield is also 12 second CD with full CDR, which you'll have anyway. Granted Hel can get lower. The difference is Hel's Cleanse has a slight delay. It's not instant like Geb's (other than the aiming, which is only a problem when people are grouped together on your team).

Shielding after beads isn't useless. You stop them receiving the health damage, by making them take the Shield health first.

Geb is good because he can counter some top tier Guardians/Supports. That's why he is often highly suggested to learn. Athena has/had been a top tier Support/Guardian for a long time, still is highly suggested. Geb Shield basically nullifies/counters her combo when he's in the same lane/fight, which is the main reason he is placed higher on tier lists.

There are definitely better ones overall. It's about who you are matched up with, so it's mostly relevant to Ranked where you can see that.

[RecalledDread]

OP if you want to learn to play Geb, he's not that difficult/complicated.

You want CDR, you want to build protections of the type you need at the time (most likely Physical first), and you probably want to play back a bit.

During fights you should look to see which team mate needs help, Shield them when necessary. You can hold off on shielding to help bait the enemy with a lower health ally (making them want to stick with it).

Don't worry about the ultimate's (or any of your abilities) damage. Use it more for the stun and setup kills for your team with it.

[Coe⁧⁧✔️[Quality Control]]

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

First of all, defensive doesn't explicitly mean your own defence. Defending an ally, or at a stretch, a location (zoning) or towers (Emperors Armour) are also defensive actions.

I was talking about defensive FEATURES, not actions. It's my own analogy so you can stop trying to argue about it lmao.

Geb is an extremely outdated god that is trash and needs a rework/overhaul. The numbers from both bronze and gold onward confirm this fully like I've already posted.

[RecalledDread]

Originally posted by Coe:

Originally posted by RecalledDread:

First of all, defensive doesn't explicitly mean your own defence. Defending an ally, or at a stretch, a location (zoning) or towers (Emperors Armour) are also defensive actions.

I was talking about defensive FEATURES, not actions. It's my own analogy so you can stop trying to argue about it lmao.

Geb is an extremely outdated god that is trash and needs a rework/overhaul. The numbers from both bronze and gold onward confirm this fully like I've already posted.

CC is still a defensive feature. It can also be an offensive one. It depends on context, so the actions are important.