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Willpower 2019년 1월 20일 오후 11시 54분
Best stuff to build on Fafnir?
I've had Ganesha diamond for a bit now and Fafnir is pretty fun to play, but I'm not too certain what item's I should grab (I know some are situational but still)
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SD97 2019년 1월 21일 오전 1시 12분 
Guardians blessing is very good on him because of his passive. From the support role,you should build normal tanky items like sov or heart. Stone of binding can be a good pick since he has such a strong single target lockdown.
For damage options you can build soul reaver,soul gem or gem of iso since if you buff your allies with ur 2 it counts as Fafnir's damage,so it can proc all those items. Honestly Fafnir's 2 is very interesting, it has plenty of cool interactions with other characters(see the one shot nemesis video by solodoublej). He is also one of the few characters who can reduce tower or phoenix protections using spear of the magus and buffing himself with his 2 which I think is pretty cool. But mind you build these items only if you are ahead and extremely confident in not needing any more defense.
Hopefully I haven't said anything wrong, if I had, someone can correct me as the discussion progresses and hope it is helpful :)
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Charlie Brown 2019년 1월 21일 오전 1시 58분 
fafnir warrior/bruiser
Greendragon245 2019년 1월 21일 오전 2시 02분 
he is kinda bad honestly narrow 1 u miss it 15 sec cd 2 is good only when adc is good and being aggressive over all i just didnt like him abilitys miss way to much
SD97 2019년 1월 21일 오전 2시 41분 
Greendragon245님이 먼저 게시:
he is kinda bad honestly narrow 1 u miss it 15 sec cd 2 is good only when adc is good and being aggressive over all i just didnt like him abilitys miss way to much
Same can be said with ares chains can't it :p ? Practice makes perfect, everyone misses that hammer a lot but that doesn't stop him from being a good character.
Dante Ironclaw 2019년 1월 21일 오전 8시 43분 
As a diamond fafnir, max cdr is the way to go. His ult lasts a limited ammount of time, and the more times you can use your abilities during it the better. Most item effects dont proc on his fire, so AA builds are pointless. As said above, guardian's blessing plus his passive gives you so much bonus gold you'll be out-building almost everyone. I usually build him with my more aggressive tank set, pen boots, hide of the urchin, void stone and mystical mail (whichever protections of the two you need first), chronos pendent and breastplate of valor. He has low dmg scaling so building up power wont do much for you.
SD97 2019년 1월 21일 오전 9시 26분 
Dante Ironclaw님이 먼저 게시:
As a diamond fafnir, max cdr is the way to go. His ult lasts a limited ammount of time, and the more times you can use your abilities during it the better. Most item effects dont proc on his fire, so AA builds are pointless. As said above, guardian's blessing plus his passive gives you so much bonus gold you'll be out-building almost everyone. I usually build him with my more aggressive tank set, pen boots, hide of the urchin, void stone and mystical mail (whichever protections of the two you need first), chronos pendent and breastplate of valor. He has low dmg scaling so building up power wont do much for you.
I do agree with the cdr part I forgot about that, but are u sure about mystical mail? It gives so little prots and health such a high price. And unless u get it early the passive does next to nothing mid to late game
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Leg Muscles 2019년 1월 21일 오전 10시 16분 
ObsidianKnight666님이 먼저 게시:
Dante Ironclaw님이 먼저 게시:
As a diamond fafnir, max cdr is the way to go. His ult lasts a limited ammount of time, and the more times you can use your abilities during it the better. Most item effects dont proc on his fire, so AA builds are pointless. As said above, guardian's blessing plus his passive gives you so much bonus gold you'll be out-building almost everyone. I usually build him with my more aggressive tank set, pen boots, hide of the urchin, void stone and mystical mail (whichever protections of the two you need first), chronos pendent and breastplate of valor. He has low dmg scaling so building up power wont do much for you.
I do agree with the cdr part I forgot about that, but are u sure about mystical mail? It gives so little prots and health such a high price. And unless u get it early the passive does next to nothing mid to late game
Its a clear example that diamond god =/= knows how to play them.

Hes also advocating chronos pendant which is.... Yikes
SD97 2019년 1월 21일 오전 10시 19분 
Leg Muscles님이 먼저 게시:
ObsidianKnight666님이 먼저 게시:
I do agree with the cdr part I forgot about that, but are u sure about mystical mail? It gives so little prots and health such a high price. And unless u get it early the passive does next to nothing mid to late game
Its a clear example that diamond god =/= knows how to play them.

Hes also advocating chronos pendant which is.... Yikes
I thought that too, I think that you should build him full tank, the only cooldown items u should get should be breastplate, spirit robe or mantle of discord. I personally dislike breastplate on support, it has too less value for that much gold IMO but I maybe wrong. Build it as the situation seems and u should be fine.
Auni[TExP] 2019년 1월 21일 오전 11시 00분 
well like some guy' wrote here allready, if you talk about conquest you should go into cdr.
Ofcourse aura Item's are necessery as support. heartstone amulett example.
So basicly you go 2 - 3 aura items, cdr boots or CC reductionboots , depends on enemy team , and how much cc they have!

then you can go CDR Armor, or genji's or shoguns it really depends on your team and opponents team.
If he got more phisical dmg, i would go cdr armor int mantle (after both aura items )
if the enemy team has more magical dmg, you can go after cdr armor into genji's-

is your enemy adc a Mage, like sol. you can go first item heartstone amulett -> boots -> genji's

Basicly you want in the lategame this stats

30-40 CDR%
About 250 armor
About 250 magic resi
2-3 Aura items

Relics , Tier 2 sprint, and also tier 2 horrific i would say. im not a fan of shell or meditation!
Also if you are not that far behind in lvl's, and you got alot of magical dmg in your team, you could also go for voidstone, to push the dmg little bit from your mages, and also from you a little bit.

But overall, he is tricky.
If you miss your 1 constantly,dont play him ;P
Same as ares , someone wrote it allready, if you wanna play ares and miss your chain alltime, you are useless.
Same scenario on fafnir,
He has a disarm with his jump, and a stun. he is not able to help you pushing your lane.

He is a very offensive supporter, but only in the case he hit his skills ofc. otherwise he is very useless.
SNOW -33 2019년 1월 21일 오전 11시 54분 
Greendragon245님이 먼저 게시:
he is kinda bad honestly narrow 1 u miss it 15 sec cd 2 is good only when adc is good and being aggressive over all i just didnt like him abilitys miss way to much
if you're missing abilities, thats your problem, not the character.
Robin 2019년 1월 21일 오전 11시 58분 
These comments, yikes. Some horrible builds lmao
Willpower 2019년 1월 21일 오후 9시 57분 
Seems like I already had a fairly good idea since I usually go with cooldown and aura items. Since I don't usually play conq ever would basic attack damage/speed items be good? I did that for a couple games of joust/clash and it seemed to crush people good but I hit my abilities too so idk. I don't play super often and it's usually not games in this genre lol.
Ragnoraok 2019년 1월 21일 오후 10시 03분 
Fafnir is and has always been busted. People just don't play him because of his rather subdued strategy. Otherwise, he is one of the better supports in the game.
SD97 2019년 1월 21일 오후 10시 27분 
willpower1271님이 먼저 게시:
Seems like I already had a fairly good idea since I usually go with cooldown and aura items. Since I don't usually play conq ever would basic attack damage/speed items be good? I did that for a couple games of joust/clash and it seemed to crush people good but I hit my abilities too so idk. I don't play super often and it's usually not games in this genre lol.
Glad to see you are enjoying fafnir. And no basic attack items are not good on Fafnir. It's good for a meme and that's it. Fafnir's strength if played damage comes from his dragon form and the huge amounts of burst and lockdown from his 3 and 1. Another thing I mentioned earlier but since in dragon form ur damage is tick damage be sure to get spear of magus that way you can shred tower prots too.
Also a lil bit sad to see u don't play conquest. Fafnir's real strength can be realised in conquest. IMO he is the true late game offensive support, the opposite side of the coin of geb. While it's impossible to kill a team who has geb late game, Fafnir's late game team shreds through objectives and enemies alike through his coerce. And he can very well kill a carry himself late game through his 5 min stun :)
Have fun
Leg Muscles 2019년 1월 22일 오전 7시 35분 
ObsidianKnight666님이 먼저 게시:
Leg Muscles님이 먼저 게시:
Its a clear example that diamond god =/= knows how to play them.

Hes also advocating chronos pendant which is.... Yikes
I thought that too, I think that you should build him full tank, the only cooldown items u should get should be breastplate, spirit robe or mantle of discord. I personally dislike breastplate on support, it has too less value for that much gold IMO but I maybe wrong. Build it as the situation seems and u should be fine.
Dont know how good you are at support but you should try picking up breastplate whenever you start off with a huge lead in duo. From my experience its way more useful then getting sov/heartward w/ a lead.
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