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Ariton Nov 3, 2018 @ 10:58am
Da Ji lifesteal on 2nd ability
Why lifesteal doesn`t work on her second ability? Is there any reason?? Is there even a point of building lifesteal on her if it doesnt work??
Originally posted by RoofCat:
lifesteal items don't work for physical abilities except explicitly stated so. Only basic attacks.
You need evolved Soul eater for ability lifesteal on physical gods or that ability itself must be lifestealing by description.
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Hydrataur Nov 3, 2018 @ 11:07am 
Are you building Soul Eater or another LS item? If it's soul eater did you evolve it? If it's evolved it's a bug and you should contact support, if not then it shouldn't be doing any LS.
Ariton Nov 3, 2018 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Hydrataur:
Are you building Soul Eater or another LS item? If it's soul eater did you evolve it? If it's evolved it's a bug and you should contact support, if not then it shouldn't be doing any LS.

I built bloodforge.
Leg Muscles Nov 3, 2018 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by ziga.cernic:
Originally posted by Hydrataur:
Are you building Soul Eater or another LS item? If it's soul eater did you evolve it? If it's evolved it's a bug and you should contact support, if not then it shouldn't be doing any LS.

I built bloodforge.
Because her two isnt a auto attack.
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RoofCat Nov 3, 2018 @ 11:55am 
lifesteal items don't work for physical abilities except explicitly stated so. Only basic attacks.
You need evolved Soul eater for ability lifesteal on physical gods or that ability itself must be lifestealing by description.
RecalledDread Nov 3, 2018 @ 1:26pm 
Magical Lifesteal (Mages and Guardians only);
- Works on Basic attacks
- Works on Abilities
- Capped at 65%

Physical Lifesteal (Assassins, Hunters, Warriors only);
- Works on Basic attacks ONLY
- Capped at 100%
- Soul Eater (evolved) allows abilities to lifesteal (capped at 15% of damage dealt)

Both;
- Capped at 33% for AOE abilities (per enemy hit I believe)


With Soul Eater, you get 10% lifesteal which works on basic attacks. The Evolved form allows abilities to lifesteal for 15% (this does not stack with the 10% it already has that I am aware of).

For Da Ji specifcally, her 2 is not a basic attack, nor does it count as one in a similar way to Mercury's 1. I also wouldn't build lifesteal on her, chances are you aren't going to make much use of it anyway (though, Bloodforge is useful for the shield and power).
RoofCat Nov 3, 2018 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Physical Lifesteal (Assassins, Hunters, Warriors only);
- Soul Eater (evolved) allows abilities to lifesteal (capped at 15% of damage dealt)
do you know by any chance, does Pythagorem's piece impact this too or only basic attacks?
Shiroi Ren Nov 3, 2018 @ 2:59pm 
Da Ji's kit:
1 - Auto-attack (but many items do not work with it)
2 - Ability
3 - Ability
4 - Ability

So, pretty much life-steal is not useful here...
RecalledDread Nov 3, 2018 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by RoofCat:
Originally posted by RecalledDread:
Physical Lifesteal (Assassins, Hunters, Warriors only);
- Soul Eater (evolved) allows abilities to lifesteal (capped at 15% of damage dealt)
do you know by any chance, does Pythagorem's piece impact this too or only basic attacks?

I would assume it's just the basic attacks for Physical gods.

My reasoning being that the base stats of Soul Eater seem to only apply to basics, and it's passive doesn't seem affected by other lifesteal items. So, I don't see why Pythagorem's Piece would affect it's passive. Effects that increase healing might though (Rod of Asclepius for instance)

Though, I would have to test it properly in Jungle Practice, since it's not an item I use much (beyond Pele anyway).
RoofCat Nov 3, 2018 @ 3:29pm 
I sometimes take it on some magical tanks in Assault. To help the whole team. Just like when you have Guan yu as a healer you might pick Rod of Asclepius as a magical one to help him heal you and others.

I have always suspected it might actually give ability lifesteal to physicals because of the magical origins, but that's just my theory crafting. Never really properly tested it. Like 50/50 theory :)
RecalledDread Nov 3, 2018 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by RoofCat:
I sometimes take it on some magical tanks in Assault. To help the whole team. Just like when you have Guan yu as a healer you might pick Rod of Asclepius as a magical one to help him heal you and others.

I have always suspected it might actually give ability lifesteal to physicals because of the magical origins, but that's just my theory crafting. Never really properly tested it. Like 50/50 theory :)

It doesn't give ability lifesteal to physicals on it's own, only increases lifesteal amount.

It might increase ability lifesteal if the player has Soul Eater, but I'm not sure it will. Would need testing properly.
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