So a thought about a Christian/biblical pantheon.

[Bretillia]

So yeah theres the joke about putting in Jesus as a healer, and Ive always been pretty against this idea too, but now I really think a Christian pantheon could work in the game.

Thing is, it would most definitely have to avoid the big 3; Being God, Jesus, and Satan (and maybe Moses but he could be pretty rad so weh). I just know that, with Christianity as big as it is, you can't just let people kill Jesus guys come on. BUT a Christian pantheon could open up doors for other cool figures like the archangels, Samson, or the Angel of Death. And also Krampus look I honestly just really want Krampus the Cernunnos skin doesn't count.

Also put in Baba Yaga for the Slavic pantheon kk rad.

[RecalledDread]

HiRez has made a statement on this previously. Should be a link in the FAQ thread if you scroll to the bottom of the first page of it.

The gist being that it is boring gameplay wise. Presumably they mean if they stay true to the lore behind each character.

For example, a lot of the main characters wouldn't have fighting experience. Certainly not any that would match up to gods, monsters, or renowned warriors.

I can see issues with the Angels as well. You could maybe have 1 angel. The rest would all likely look too similar, making it hard to tell who's who in a fight (particularly if you had 5 on the team, all with feathery wings).
The only way around that might be giving different angels different numbers of wings, 4 or 6 for higher ranking ones? Even then, especially alongside Thanatos, you'd have limited options in making them look different.
Alternatively, add Satan. But, they are also an angel right? Fallen, so maybe more leathery wings to show a difference from other Angels. So, Chernobog? Again, limited in differing appearances.

Angel of Death in particular. How would this differ in appearance or gameplay to Thanatos? Wouldn't it be like adding Jupiter (Zeus), or Mars (Ares)?

[Bretillia]

I mean, if all that's what the devs said, those are some pretty lame reasons.
When I threw out archangels I just meant like Micheal or Gabriel one of the famous ones, but why just dash the whole idea because adding more would risk them looking too similar.

But Angel of Death is probably one I'm more serious about, and have him based around the plagues of Egypt. You could totally make a cool warrior or mage out of that. Or maybe incorporate the ten plagues into something for Moses.
But I mean if the dev's say no then no it is, but jeez that's some wasted potential.

Also Krampus did I mention I want Krampus? that'd be rad.

[Bretillia]

Also, side question, is real life balance actually a factor into who gets added in? I mean I guess I get it cuz not every mythological figure could possibly fight gods. But what about Chang'e? I mean I dont really know her story but I kinda dont see her being too all powerful.

[Mossy Snake]

Originally posted by Count Bleck!:

I mean, if all that's what the devs said, those are some pretty lame reasons.
When I threw out archangels I just meant like Micheal or Gabriel one of the famous ones, but why just dash the whole idea because adding more would risk them looking too similar.

But Angel of Death is probably one I'm more serious about, and have him based around the plagues of Egypt. You could totally make a cool warrior or mage out of that.
Also Krampus did I mention I want Krampus? that'd be rad.

Krampus can just be shoehorned into the slavic pantheon, or just a Cernnunos skin

[Bretillia]

Originally posted by MossyRathalos:

Krampus can just be shoehorned into the slavic pantheon, or just a Cernnunos skin

Boom what a genius, let's go.

Minus the part about Cernunnos that skin is trash

[M4tt]

Originally posted by Count Bleck!:

Also, side question, is real life balance actually a factor into who gets added in? I mean I guess I get it cuz not every mythological figure could possibly fight gods. But what about Chang'e? I mean I dont really know her story but I kinda dont see her being too all powerful.

"I dont really know gods story, but i cant see him being all too powerful."

[Bretillia]

Originally posted by M4tt:

"I dont really know gods story, but i cant see him being all too powerful."

I mean, yeh. Kinda figured she was just a princess on the moon. And after a quick hop to wikipedia, she was Hou Yi's wife who drank an elixir of immortality and then fled to the moon. So pretty not all powerful.
Not at all crapping on Chang'e tho, I'm saying I'm more in favor of figures like her who aren't necessarily powerful but could still be unique and cool.

[Taweret]

there is fightning game where you can play jesus and moses: https://store.steampowered.com/app/612930/Fight_of_Gods/

heroes of the storm has also a lot of angel heroes total of 4, death, justice, hope and valor, even though their design is pretty similar, but so what if they play differently,

baba yaga could be fun i she had similar kit to akasha from dota or wrethed hag from hon, blink - dot, cripple - nuke.

from goat like gods i want greek pan, but maybe make him like cupid:
https://etc.usf.edu/clipart/72800/72856/72856_pan_md.gif
he would be a bard hero.

you can also use zoroastrian instead of christianity, zoroaster instead of jesus and ahura mazda vs ahriman as god vs devil also zoroastrian angels.

[Hydrataur]

Might actually work if they had like, 2 of the more famous angels as a stance switcher instead of adding each angel separately since they all mostly look the same as Recalled said. Then you could have one more focused on swordplay and flying/acrobatics while the other is more about light magic. Honestly don't know much about angels beyond what Heroes of Might and Magic has told me so they could end up being very different from what I know of them.
And the angel of death is essentially Thanatos, although your idea for a character that has to do with the plagues of Egypt could be really cool. Perhaps a triple stance switcher like Merlin with his ult being the tenth commandment (dealing heavy damage to the enemy's top level player that is within a certain range, or even executing if below a specific percentage). Perhaps do something unique with the stance switching to not give him 10 abilities at all times, and make it that he automatically switches stance every X amount of time (sorta like how time passed between each plague I guess).
Also +1 for Baba Yaga.

[Taweret]

japanese series shin megami tensei has interesting design for angels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DtreWZLhHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQoiuQPinFo
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/d/d1/AngelsSMT.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170905165747
cherubin would be interesting character that in original scripture looks grotesque.
also i see satan kit similar to orphea from hots, where he turns into huge hellmouth and devour gods but that also can be orcus from roman pantheon.

[Bretillia]

Originally posted by Hydrataur:

Might actually work if they had like, 2 of the more famous angels as a stance switcher instead of adding each angel separately since they all mostly look the same as Recalled said. Then you could have one more focused on swordplay and flying/acrobatics while the other is more about light magic.

I like it, there we go.

Originally posted by Ojama King:

japanese series shin megami tensei has interesting design for angels:

Yo SMT is rad, but also El Shaddai Ascension of the Metatron has some solid designs for the archangels as well.

[Taweret]

oh el shaddai, would it be biblical if they added El but from canaanite, ugarit pantheon? according to some ancient history researchers the cult of yahweh originates from him. but it wasnt monotheist religion only polytheist, the wife of el was asherah, sometimes even worshipped as partner of yahweh. but they would have also to make baal as a god, not the demon you know from smt based on christian religion. the closest to monotheist is messianic zoroastrianism they can make.

[Taweret]

Originally posted by Count Bleck!:

I mean, yeh. Kinda figured she was just a princess on the moon. And after a quick hop to wikipedia, she was Hou Yi's wife who drank an elixir of immortality and then fled to the moon. So pretty not all powerful.
Not at all crapping on Chang'e tho, I'm saying I'm more in favor of figures like her who aren't necessarily powerful but could still be unique and cool.

its the rabbit man, he even talks for her, also there is crap load of sailor moon themed skinz how chang e dont have one is beyond me, she was the main concept the whole bunny or usagi from sailor moon is based.