Cabrakan is ca-broken

[Piterros990]

Seriously, I just had a match, and once Neith killed me. I look at Y: Neith attack: 200 dmg, Cabrakan: 1000 dmg in total. Wtf is this broken sh*t? Tanky af and hits like a truck. He really needs a nerf, he's a guardian, not adc!!

[Locet]

yeah.... almost all of the guardians can do hella damage

[Piterros990]

Originally posted by Locet:

yeah.... almost all of the guardians can do hella damage

No, not that much. Most guardians can hit hard, but often it's hard to land an ability. Cabrakan has huge aoe and his abilities are rather easy to hit. I haven't seen any guardian yet dealing that much dmg. Maybe Ymir, but it's hard to hit his 2 or 4, because they are easily avoidable.

[sam]

I will absolutely destroy you with my geb :^)

[screeno42]

Not joking, I have heard damage cabraken refered to as cabroken.

[sam]

I call Cabrakan CaBROKEN all the time m8

[Joshywoshy]

All guardian can do dmg like that with a dmg build

[sam]

dmg!11!11!1

[Kayro]

He isn't called the fat Loki for nothing. If you build him mage, one hit with his 1 takes almost all HP on a squishy and his ult can one shot most squishies (with SR, off course).

[RecalledDread]

He's not really that tanky. For me, he feels like he takes far more damage with the same build as other guardians, which is strange considering his passive.

People do tend to build things like Polynomicon on him along with a at least 1 other damage item (most common one I've seen was Gem of Isolation).

[Piterros990]

Originally posted by Verizon and Bone:

All guardian can do dmg like that with a dmg build

He also stuns with almost any ability. Catches you with ult and you're f*cked. Well, he doesn't need ult to f*ck you up. I would say that he's not Destroyer Of Mountains, but Destroyer of Enemies' Hit Points.

[sam]

Originally posted by Piterros990:

Originally posted by Verizon and Bone:

All guardian can do dmg like that with a dmg build

He also stuns with almost any ability. Catches you with ult and you're f*cked. Well, he doesn't need ult to f*ck you up. I would say that he's not Destroyer Of Mountains, but Destroyer of Enemies' Hit Points.

So true

[Piterros990]

Originally posted by RoofCatA:

Originally posted by 🎁 𝓢𝓪𝓶𝓶𝓲𝒆:

I will absolutely destroy you with my geb :^)

and then pwn with Kumbhakarna CC chain :)

@OP
Neith probably hit you with basic (no crit). While Cabrakan ulted you or entertained with his tremors I guess. If you stand for 10sec, his tremors can do up to 1300 damage +700% magical power. Don't stand in them next time maybe?


what was your pick btw?

Mercury. I was escaping from Tremors easily, but his Refraction Shields and Seismic Crush were dealing like 400 dmg per hit, and they were nuking me. It was insanely hard to kill anybody when Cabrakan was near. I could deal with Neith or Anubis, but when Cabrakan gets into battlefield... GG.

[VECTOR]

Originally posted by Piterros990:

Originally posted by Locet:

yeah.... almost all of the guardians can do hella damage

No, not that much. Most guardians can hit hard, but often it's hard to land an ability. Cabrakan has huge aoe and his abilities are rather easy to hit. I haven't seen any guardian yet dealing that much dmg. Maybe Ymir, but it's hard to hit his 2 or 4, because they are easily avoidable.

What about bacc

[Piterros990]

Originally posted by Cancerous Tumor:

Originally posted by Piterros990:

No, not that much. Most guardians can hit hard, but often it's hard to land an ability. Cabrakan has huge aoe and his abilities are rather easy to hit. I haven't seen any guardian yet dealing that much dmg. Maybe Ymir, but it's hard to hit his 2 or 4, because they are easily avoidable.

What about bacc

I don't think Baccus can do that much dmg alone... I know about his jump-belch combo, but it does more about CC than dmg, so alone he wouldn't do that much. Cabrakan has both, dmg and CC.

[Zake]

I think Cabrakan is great in joust, definately top pick for me.
He is basically another mage + can support.

Keep in mind that his 1 + 2 are close range abilities. So try to keep your distence.
Poke him out where you can, while he is using 3 he can't move. So if his health is low(ish) before he uses it you can probably focus on him then.

Also keep in mind if there are no minions around he NEEDS you to hit him in order to get a stun with the 2 (which is longer than the 1).

Try to get a lead early because his 1 + 2 don't deal as much damage (and 2 doesn't stun as long). These abilities are mostly single target (as long as your team doesn't clump up, which is rarely good anyway, you shouldn't worry too much about him).
His 3, as mentioned, leaves him easy to hit. Early game he won't have much protections so he can be punished for trying to use it.
When he gets ult be careful if you don't have a leap. Dashing can still help if you manage to not get it slammed into your face.

If he got blink first item, he will be able to confirm the ult a lot easier. HOWEVER your support will likely not be targeted so when he blinks and focuses the squishies your support could try cc cabrakans teammates.
This is still relatively early game so he likely won't be able to 100 to 0 you (unless you let him :P).

Keep in mind that carbakan CAN do decent damage without building much damage. Personally if you build ANY protections I find my damage falls off A LOT.
Will still be able to confirm low health targets, however, which brings me to my next point.

Cabrakans damage should NOT be underestimated.
He is a bit like Kumbha, in the regard he can likely 1v1 you if you aren't tanky.

His protections (which he is likely building) will mean you can't burst him down as easily as he can you. SO keep your distence and if you are not full health watch for him trying to burst you down.


Personally I am finding Kumbha to be a bit stronger in joust, because while he can't do quite as much damage. He does have more that he brings to the table.
Overall his CC lasts longer (making it easier for teammates to follow up).
Being longer range (minion throw rocks!).
And one of the most annoying ults to be on the recieving end of.

There is NOTHING you can do when he gets you in the air. So hope you got an aphro on your team who is linked with you. :P

Anyways, I find both these gods great supports in 3v3 scenarios but want to remind you the game is balanced around conquest.

Another piece of advice is to play cabrakan yourself, it really opens your eyes to what 'counters' him and makes his job a lot harder.

Oh also he has no cc immunity on ult, and ussually doesn't get beads. And his 3 is canceled if cced so overall, cc is pretty good against him. (Tho it is good against everyone xD).

TL;DR
Abuse his shorter range, weaker early game and more single target cc (excluding the 3, which does root him).

Also give him a shot yourself, very good for learning what cabrakan players don't like.


EDIT* Hmm I seem to have wrote quite a bit...
Queueing motd on Aus servers does that to me. >->