what is kuzenbo for?

[Anonn 20 16]

kuzenbo is out for a while now and i have formed a rather different oppinion than i had at the start. all i see kuzenbo players do is get close to someone obviously trying to position themselfs to push them only to fail miserably because the players move around cuz they know what he is trying to do. then there is the obvious use of their ulti which to be honest doesn't impact players a lot. i find myself either ignoring enemy kuzenbos or don't care much when i get pushed around by the ulti because the enemy team has a hard time hitting me as i am pushed around lol. i am looking at other guardians and honestly i can't see kuzenbo making any kind of impact at all like the rest of them. when i see ares, athena or fafnir i sh!t my pants, when i see khepri or cabracan i worry about my positioning, when i see kuzenbo all i think is "oh here we go again, he annoyingly trying to push someone again,i'll just ignore him". i can't be the only one that thinks of this in that way. also i haven't played with him nor do i intent to because i don't like his kit. am i wrong on this? am i missing something?

[Drcipres]

He sucks

[Anal ♥♥♥♥]

I play Kuzenbo like a Bruiser and do my job decently.

The only reason you may have afforded to ignore all the Kuzenbos you've seen so far is because they're either dumb and build him full support or they go full damage and get blown out of the water. No man, you don't treat him like Khepri or any other defensive Guard out there, you don't treat him like a mage either, you become annoying, you get in their face all the time and irritate your opponents. You either expose the carries or isolate the frontline. You annoy everyone who tries to back with your NeNe Kappa and, if you're good enough, you can also reset the combat timer on Blink. You see that Bacchus trying to stun someone? You use your 3 and get him out of here. You see that Cabrakan trying to make everyone dance? You use your 3 and waste him out.

The changes he's getting in 4.3 make him much better (except for the ult, which I'll get on to it later). Now that you can activate his 2 while under CC, if the Kuzenbo is decent, there's no way you can get around him since you do have to deal with him sooner or later. Right now someone like, say, Anubis could afford to wrap him in toilet paper and deal damage without fear, but that is no longer possible. The buff to his 3 means that if you can afford to meet all the requirements you can deal up to 600 + 105% damage. However, the ult nerf is just dumb - since when is +10 damage overall in exchange for 1 hit (aka -20% scaling and 1 less knockup) a good trade?

I'm not saying he's overpowered, he's not. He does, however, deserve proper credit. It's hilarious how people who don't even bother to go competitive at any point of their lives like Mythymoo or Raynday not only managed to figure him out but also either play Kuzenbo and get top damage OR play against Kuzenbos who get top damage in the entire match despite losing (I've even got a friend who managed to pull that out, by the way), while self-proclaimed "pro players" call him "THE WORST GOD ON RELEASE", all of that while wasting Thor ults on speed buffs.

[Dark_Clown]

i dont see him rly as a tank makes most likely most sense in solo ...no idea never tried it

[Anonn 20 16]

is his ulti getting a nerf? that was the only thing i liked about him because of the potential to take objectives and just annoy the enemy. why would they think it's a good idea to nerf it? also i do believe he is iritating but that's it. nothing else. i do believe that with his 2 activating while on cc will make him a better. and do the pros really call him the worst god on release? i wouldn't call him the worst, i just feel he is really underpowered in a useful way for the team in relation to other guardians. i know this is probably not a correct way to "fix" him but what if his 1 at least had a 20% slow for 2 seconds? i do not mean the kapa hitting you applying the slow, just the initial hit of the kapa coming out and only if you get hit by it while it still rolls either by bouncing off a wall or straight up hitting you.

[Dark_Clown]

worst got on release? he doesnt even come close to ravana and nox ^^

[Anal ♥♥♥♥]

Originally posted by anon2017:

is his ulti getting a nerf? that was the only thing i liked about him because of the potential to take objectives and just annoy the enemy. why would they think it's a good idea to nerf it?

Right now, his ult deals up to 550 + 100% damage. That's with 4 hits.
Tommorow, after the patch hits, it will deal up to 560 + 80% damage with 3 hits.

Trust me, you won't feel that +10 damage later in the game.

[Anal ♥♥♥♥]

As for the "worst god on release" non-sense, just look at this.

And it's not just him, you see people comparing Kuzenbo with Khepri while actively saying he's the worst support release so far. Just kill me.

[Anonn 20 16]

who is actualy comparing kuzenbo with khepri? they don't have anything in common on the way they work.

[Anal ♥♥♥♥]

Originally posted by anon2017:

who is actualy comparing kuzenbo with khepri? they don't have anything in common on the way they work.

Look at the comment section on the video I posted. The top comment has a chain of comments, some idiot that goes under the name of The Last Raven has said something like "Khepri has better peel and initiation AND he doesn't require blink.", because Khepri can certainly make anyone kill themselves with Thorns and disrupt everything in sight, not to mention "more overall support for the team" lul.

[Timothy Dippingsauce]

tbh I think kuzenbo is ok, I dont have that many hours in SMITE but his blink + push tactic into tower early game is so strong. but I feel that he is more of a casual play god, wouldn't pick him over someone like ymir or ares.

[SheepMan]

Originally posted by ☁☯DrCipres☯☁:

He sucks

Wrong, he's a god for real teamplay

[Drcipres]

Originally posted by TWCG Makoa the Tortoise:

Originally posted by ☁☯DrCipres☯☁:

He sucks

Wrong, he's a god for real teamplay

He either needs blink, or braindead opponents without wards, his ult is annoying for both teams, his 2 is good late game and his 1 is annoying

[Deathszechuan]

Basically from what I've seen. He's great with a poke comp. And it just plays the role of a wall. Blocks them from getting hit or engaged on. He can body clock ranged attacks by moving infront and using his reflect. Push, melee engagers with his charge, and totally stop a enemy team engaged with his ult, and often puts the enemy team at the disadvantage.

Not to mention he has a decent poke himself.

[Flyingbox]

Kuzenbo is GREAT for isolating a target from a teamfight. His kit does very well in keeping someone away while being able to take a few hits.

Spoiler: Taking hits with his reflect reduces the cooldown on his kappa throw.

What really shines is when you grab the enemy carry with the slam and collide through all the enemy minions with it. The damage adds up with each additional target you slam your victim into. If it's just the wall itself you better have a teammate follow up with CC like Anhur or ... pretty much any mage.

[Kikinini]

he's just here to troll