Fallout 2

Fallout 2

rbindy 2018 年 2 月 4 日 下午 9:09
I plowed Mr. Bishops daughter and now I can't leave
The only exit seems to be through the room with Mr. Bishop in it and all the options lead to him attacking me, I don't want to kill him because I think there might be work with him in the future, how do I get out without killing him?
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Zaphyra 2018 年 2 月 4 日 下午 9:14 
Enter combat mode, then sneak
rbindy 2018 年 2 月 4 日 下午 9:17 
引用自 zaphyra
Enter combat mode, then sneak

First off theres a guard at the door so they'll PROBABLY see me.
Second I haven't levelled sneak whatsoever.
Vulpes Animalis 2018 年 2 月 5 日 上午 7:03 
..or reload older save, its chance here too.
psychotron666 2018 年 2 月 5 日 上午 7:22 
I think one time I got through by going into combat mode before entering the room and ran to the stairs, quickly reentering combat mode when your action points run out.
I think the restoration patch fixes that bug though.

The only other way out is to kill bishop and fight his entire gang. But after that you can go bang his wife.

Also if you didn't have any Jimmy hats then you will have gotten the daughter pregnant and get an ending where the bishops have your illegitimate son. This ending is confirmed as canon as an npc in new Vegas confirms it.
Incunabulum 2018 年 2 月 5 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 Srbindy
The only exit seems to be through the room with Mr. Bishop in it and all the options lead to him attacking me, I don't want to kill him because I think there might be work with him in the future, how do I get out without killing him?

Go back in time and then *don't* screw the daughter of a crime boss.
Incunabulum 2018 年 2 月 5 日 上午 11:34 
引用自 psychotron666
I think one time I got through by going into combat mode before entering the room and ran to the stairs, quickly reentering combat mode when your action points run out.
I think the restoration patch fixes that bug though.

The only other way out is to kill bishop and fight his entire gang. But after that you can go bang his wife.

Also if you didn't have any Jimmy hats then you will have gotten the daughter pregnant and get an ending where the bishops have your illegitimate son. This ending is confirmed as canon as an npc in new Vegas confirms it.

The NPC in New Vegas does not cofirm it. He alludes to the possibility depending on how literally you take everything people say and make the assumption that because the father did something so will the child.

"He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."
rbindy 2018 年 2 月 5 日 下午 12:18 
引用自 Incunabulum
引用自 Srbindy
The only exit seems to be through the room with Mr. Bishop in it and all the options lead to him attacking me, I don't want to kill him because I think there might be work with him in the future, how do I get out without killing him?

Go back in time and then *don't* screw the daughter of a crime boss.

Yeah I had to do this one
psychotron666 2018 年 2 月 5 日 下午 2:50 
引用自 Incunabulum
引用自 psychotron666
I think one time I got through by going into combat mode before entering the room and ran to the stairs, quickly reentering combat mode when your action points run out.
I think the restoration patch fixes that bug though.

The only other way out is to kill bishop and fight his entire gang. But after that you can go bang his wife.

Also if you didn't have any Jimmy hats then you will have gotten the daughter pregnant and get an ending where the bishops have your illegitimate son. This ending is confirmed as canon as an npc in new Vegas confirms it.

The NPC in New Vegas does not cofirm it. He alludes to the possibility depending on how literally you take everything people say and make the assumption that because the father did something so will the child.

"He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."

Ending after fallout 2 Not long after the destruction of the Enclave, the Bishop Family of New Reno was blessed with a child. This child seemed to have little in common with the Bishops, preferring instead to spend his days exploring the wastes. When he turned thirteen, he seized control of the Bishop Family and led them to victory over the remaining New Reno families. He died quietly in his sleep at the age of seventy-three, never having known his real father

"Spend his days exploring" the wastes coupled with taking over the family seems to coincide with the new Vegas npc dialogue of "He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."

It's the closest thing to confirming it besides just saying he's the Son of the chosen one, which nobody would know anyway
最后由 psychotron666 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 5 日 下午 2:51
WillieSea 2018 年 2 月 5 日 下午 3:06 
I am sure that there are more than one person in the whole world that likes to wander the wasteland.

As an example, in Fallout New Vegas, the 'courier' is a wanderer (been from the Pacific ocean to middle USA), and has nothing to do with the wanderer from FO1 or FO2.
最后由 WillieSea 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 5 日 下午 3:07
thobin1 2018 年 2 月 11 日 下午 9:00 
dont plow his daughter
identity 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 1:21 
引用自 psychotron666
引用自 Incunabulum

The NPC in New Vegas does not cofirm it. He alludes to the possibility depending on how literally you take everything people say and make the assumption that because the father did something so will the child.

"He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."

Ending after fallout 2 Not long after the destruction of the Enclave, the Bishop Family of New Reno was blessed with a child. This child seemed to have little in common with the Bishops, preferring instead to spend his days exploring the wastes. When he turned thirteen, he seized control of the Bishop Family and led them to victory over the remaining New Reno families. He died quietly in his sleep at the age of seventy-three, never having known his real father

"Spend his days exploring" the wastes coupled with taking over the family seems to coincide with the new Vegas npc dialogue of "He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."

It's the closest thing to confirming it besides just saying he's the Son of the chosen one, which nobody would know anyway
I agree. I just assumed that dialogue in New Vegas was referring to the Chosen One's son, who was now boss, and who this guy apparently slept with both his wife and daughter (or something), which is probably just a callback to Fallout 2 and your situation in that game.

As for Bishop's daughter, or wife for that matter, you should always visit Vault City and get the briefcase from Moore (I believe?), the guy rambling about Vault City near the entrance to the vault. If you support him, he wants you to deliver it to Bishop, so you can use that as a way out once you get there. However, you have to finish Bishops quests in a timely manner, and every time you go back up there without anything to report is risking him shooting you.

As a small spoiler, if you do sleep with his wife (not sure about his daughter) and finish all of his quests, he will still kill you for doing that.
rbindy 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 1:27 
引用自 id
引用自 psychotron666

Ending after fallout 2 Not long after the destruction of the Enclave, the Bishop Family of New Reno was blessed with a child. This child seemed to have little in common with the Bishops, preferring instead to spend his days exploring the wastes. When he turned thirteen, he seized control of the Bishop Family and led them to victory over the remaining New Reno families. He died quietly in his sleep at the age of seventy-three, never having known his real father

"Spend his days exploring" the wastes coupled with taking over the family seems to coincide with the new Vegas npc dialogue of "He knows the Wasteland like the back of his hand, and he likes to wander it."

It's the closest thing to confirming it besides just saying he's the Son of the chosen one, which nobody would know anyway
I agree. I just assumed that dialogue in New Vegas was referring to the Chosen One's son, who was now boss, and who this guy apparently slept with both his wife and daughter (or something), which is probably just a callback to Fallout 2 and your situation in that game.

As for Bishop's daughter, or wife for that matter, you should always visit Vault City and get the briefcase from Moore (I believe?), the guy rambling about Vault City near the entrance to the vault. If you support him, he wants you to deliver it to Bishop, so you can use that as a way out once you get there. However, you have to finish Bishops quests in a timely manner, and every time you go back up there without anything to report is risking him shooting you.

As a small spoiler, if you do sleep with his wife (not sure about his daughter) and finish all of his quests, he will still kill you for doing that.

Um uh... heh... i got banned from vault city.
identity 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 1:37 
引用自 Srbindy
引用自 id
I agree. I just assumed that dialogue in New Vegas was referring to the Chosen One's son, who was now boss, and who this guy apparently slept with both his wife and daughter (or something), which is probably just a callback to Fallout 2 and your situation in that game.

As for Bishop's daughter, or wife for that matter, you should always visit Vault City and get the briefcase from Moore (I believe?), the guy rambling about Vault City near the entrance to the vault. If you support him, he wants you to deliver it to Bishop, so you can use that as a way out once you get there. However, you have to finish Bishops quests in a timely manner, and every time you go back up there without anything to report is risking him shooting you.

As a small spoiler, if you do sleep with his wife (not sure about his daughter) and finish all of his quests, he will still kill you for doing that.

Um uh... heh... i got banned from vault city.

Well, Bishop is an ass anyway, and you have to avoid a lot of what is good about Reno to work with him, so it's not really worth the effort. If you can't get out of there, you can always just attempt to assassinate him, which you can do through the safe in his room. With high repair, you can change the lock on the safe, which will trigger the trap and kill Bishop when he tries to open it. With high traps, you can set your own explosive and wait for him to open it that way. This may require dialogue with Mrs. Bishop, though. Not exactly sure.

Also, keep multiple saves, man... this is actually one of the games that slowly learned me in that regard. I'll use a whole page for saves for one character. Every time I save, it goes in a new slot, until I hit the end and start the process over at the first one again.

But, on a side note, you're playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Accept whatever comes and roll with it. That's the best way to go about it.
最后由 identity 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 1:40
rbindy 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 2:15 
引用自 id
引用自 Srbindy

Um uh... heh... i got banned from vault city.

Well, Bishop is an ass anyway, and you have to avoid a lot of what is good about Reno to work with him, so it's not really worth the effort. If you can't get out of there, you can always just attempt to assassinate him, which you can do through the safe in his room. With high repair, you can change the lock on the safe, which will trigger the trap and kill Bishop when he tries to open it. With high traps, you can set your own explosive and wait for him to open it that way. This may require dialogue with Mrs. Bishop, though. Not exactly sure.

Also, keep multiple saves, man... this is actually one of the games that slowly learned me in that regard. I'll use a whole page for saves for one character. Every time I save, it goes in a new slot, until I hit the end and start the process over at the first one again.

But, on a side note, you're playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Accept whatever comes and roll with it. That's the best way to go about it.

I had to revert to a previous save unfortanetly, I was too weak to beat Mr. Bishop.
ogreballerina 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 4:34 
You should be able to walk by him 2 more times before he attacks.
When you get near him again ,after taking the job, he will start shouting and speech options should pop up. Don't get flippy .
Third time he will just start fighting.

I did his wife and his daughter. ( And got the Vault tech science ? upgrade, planted the bomb, got the info....and stole everything )

Stick close to the walls and just sneak past him.
最后由 ogreballerina 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 4:52
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