Fallout Fixt or Et Tu?

[Gizmo]

Heya, can anyone tell me which of these two you'd recommend me? I'm torn between the two. On one hand, I've heard Fixt's buggy and outdated but lets you get the good ending for The Hub and The Followers while letting you do Decker's quests without getting the bad ending for the former. On the other hand, Et Tu's more stable [so I hear], but you can't do Decker's quests without getting the bad ending for The Hub and the spy quest isn't included in Et Tu, whereas Fixt does include it. So, I guess I want Restored content with QoL improvements and stability in my game. Choices, choices. Thoughts?

[Tooslow]

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Publicado originalmente por Tooslow:

I've been watching some of the Tim Cain videos on Youtube (good stuff, in my opinion) and just installed Fallout but figured there'd be a fan patch. Is Et Tu, based on a quick Google search, a mod for Fallout 2 that replaces the content with the original FO content? Any over changes?

Yep. It's literally Fallout 1 in the Fallout 2 engine or Fallout 1 in 2, so to speak. Basically Fallout 1 with Fallout 2's improvements. Hope that helps.

It does, thanks! (I don't seem to be doing the uncensoring on here right though. Do I enter ".*" or "." then "*")

[Gizmo]

Publicado originalmente por Tooslow:

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Yep. It's literally Fallout 1 in the Fallout 2 engine or Fallout 1 in 2, so to speak. Basically Fallout 1 with Fallout 2's improvements. Hope that helps.

It does, thanks! (I don't seem to be doing the uncensoring on here right though. Do I enter ".*" or "." then "*")

The former. .*

You're welcome.

[Tooslow]

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It does, thanks! (I don't seem to be doing the uncensoring on here right though. Do I enter ".*" or "." then "*")

The former. .*

Thanks again!

[Gizmo]

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The former. .*

Thanks again!

No problamo.

[Vex Hilarius]

Hey little update I've been replaying Fallout 1 via et tu mod and I have to change my mind. FIXT is totally not worth it nowadays. I first tried out et tu when it was first released and didn't know many of the ini tweaks or anything really so I brushed it off. I don't think I'll be using FIXT anymore personally.

If you want to know a big reason why I switched is (spoiler) you can get a freaking motorcycle

[Gizmo]

Publicado originalmente por Vex Hilarius:

Hey little update I've been replaying Fallout 1 via et tu mod and I have to change my mind. FIXT is totally not worth it nowadays. I first tried out et tu when it was first released and didn't know many of the ini tweaks or anything really so I brushed it off. I don't think I'll be using FIXT anymore personally.

If you want to know a big reason why I switched is (spoiler) you can get a freaking motorcycle

Yeah, I knew about the motorcycle in Et Tu, which sounds cool. Well, anyway, I'd like to know how the TeamX patches, the NPC mod, Fallout Restoration mod [NOT Restoration Project!!!!!!! This isn't Fallout 2!!!!!!! Great Game, though!!!!!!] and the Restored Good endings mod [there's a compatibility file for FO1 RP FYI] all hold up compared to Et Tu. I'm thinking Fixt isn't the way to go after all, but am undecided on Et Tu or the aforementioned mods in this post. Thoughts?

[RamiroRa]

Dumb question, but does Fixt really converts F1 to F2 too? It's optional?

[The Chosen Chad]

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Dumb question, but does Fixt really converts F1 to F2 too? It's optional?

Fixt is an outdated patch for Fallout 1
Fallout et tu is a mod of Fallout 2 that brings Fallout 1 in 2

[RamiroRa]

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Dumb question, but does Fixt really converts F1 to F2 too? It's optional?

Fixt is an outdated patch for Fallout 1
Fallout et tu is a mod of Fallout 2 that brings Fallout 1 in 2

I see. Thanks.

[Gizmo]

The funny thing is, I've heard about Fixt being old, outdated, and buggy as hell from multiple sources. But, I've also heard that Et Tu has some bugs as will [granted, not as many as Fixt, but there are minor bugs in Et Tu as well, thankfully haven't seen or heard of anything game breaking in Et Tu, whereas Fixt tends to CTD when trying to explore the world map or trying to leave a map via an exit grid, fortunately not too often from my experiences and nothing a backup save couldn't fix, still annoying as ♥♥♥♥, though]. For example, Et Tu got the music that's meant to play in the Vault 13 caves screwed up. I have faith Lexx'll fix that in due time, which's a good thing.

[Ralvadin]

I've finished the game with Fixt several times. Right now it's my first run with Et Tu. I have a couple of questions for Lexx before I start my new game, and after another run or two, I can write a brief comparison between the two.

[Gizmo]

Publicado originalmente por Ralvadin:

I've finished the game with Fixt several times. Right now it's my first run with Et Tu. I have a couple of questions for Lexx before I start my new game, and after another run or two, I can write a brief comparison between the two.

First, how was your Fixt and Et Tu experiences so far? Second, you might wanna ask that question you have on either Reddit or No Mutants Allowed [careful with that latter suggestion though]. Lexx usually [at least from my personal experiences] hangs around those two forums and even moderates NMA. I think he might also be on Discord, too. But I strongly don't recommend that option at all due to bad experiences I had with the site. Hope that helps mate.

[The Chosen Chad]

Publicado originalmente por Gizmo:

Publicado originalmente por Ralvadin:

I've finished the game with Fixt several times. Right now it's my first run with Et Tu. I have a couple of questions for Lexx before I start my new game, and after another run or two, I can write a brief comparison between the two.

First, how was your Fixt and Et Tu experiences so far? Second, you might wanna ask that question you have on either Reddit or No Mutants Allowed [careful with that latter suggestion though]. Lexx usually [at least from my personal experiences] hangs around those two forums and even moderates NMA. I think he might also be on Discord, too. But I strongly don't recommend that option at all due to bad experiences I had with the site. Hope that helps mate.

NMA is a normal forum, hell I had more bad experience in Reddit of all places by correcting people on lore stuff or answering questions.
On NMA you might actually find an answer, a fix, and even a full on guide to mod and prevent other bugs.

[Gizmo]

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First, how was your Fixt and Et Tu experiences so far? Second, you might wanna ask that question you have on either Reddit or No Mutants Allowed [careful with that latter suggestion though]. Lexx usually [at least from my personal experiences] hangs around those two forums and even moderates NMA. I think he might also be on Discord, too. But I strongly don't recommend that option at all due to bad experiences I had with the site. Hope that helps mate.

NMA is a normal forum, hell I had more bad experience in Reddit of all places by correcting people on lore stuff or answering questions.
On NMA you might actually find an answer, a fix, and even a full on guide to mod and prevent other bugs.

Fair point. Should clarify that NMA seems to [at least from my personal experience] be a much better place for info on Fallout than Reddit or Discord. You'll just find toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ online no matter where you go. Granted, One thing I praise NMA for is their dedication to the Fallout series and their willingness to actually help out. Thank you for the insight.

Also, no trying to bash No Mutants Allowed. If it came across as bashing, then I'm sorry.

[Ralvadin]

Publicado originalmente por Gizmo:

Publicado originalmente por Ralvadin:

I've finished the game with Fixt several times. Right now it's my first run with Et Tu. I have a couple of questions for Lexx before I start my new game, and after another run or two, I can write a brief comparison between the two.

First, how was your Fixt and Et Tu experiences so far? Second, you might wanna ask that question you have on either Reddit or No Mutants Allowed [careful with that latter suggestion though]. Lexx usually [at least from my personal experiences] hangs around those two forums and even moderates NMA. I think he might also be on Discord, too. But I strongly don't recommend that option at all due to bad experiences I had with the site. Hope that helps mate.

I've been having issues signing up on NMA forum since yesterday (I haven't got their confirmation e-mail), so I can post questions I have for Lexx here. Maybe somebody already knows the answers. But first, a comparison between Fixt and Et Tu.

Fixt is definitely closer to the vanilla game but that doesn't necessarily mean better. I've finished Fixt about 5 times and have got a pretty good grip on the game, so much so that I know how to exploit it and truly min-max. Et Tu does a good job on balancing skills, so that more skills become viable. You can no longer cover all bases with your build, or at least it's harder. You need a higher Lockpick skill. Some chests are locked that were previously just easily lootable. I think you also need Charisma for some dialog checks, not just Speech. So, game gets a bit more challenging but I think I like that. I'm always up for balance. Barter prices are higher, too, so you gotta loot more and really save money. But not everything is more expensive. Some items that were previously ridiculously expensive now have a lower cost. So I like it. Gambling cannot be exploited anymore - I'm even thinking it might not be worth picking now. The author should explain the casino game of dice (Craps). I tried it for some time but profits weren't that high and I got bored. Its rules are complicated to those of us that don't gamble in real life. Maybe I should have upped my Luck. Maybe there aren't only Gambling checks but also Luck checks? Many questions - or more exploration to be done by us players. Also, Fixt has more bugs. Et Tu fixes many dialog lines that disappeared if you didn't click them in your first talk. Most notably the talk with Cabot. If you made the wrong choices, you were barred from BoS forever. I've yet to explore Mariposa to see what problems I might get from 3 paladins. Are they gonna block me? We'll see. So overall, I prefer Et Tu. But if you wanna min-max, go with Fixt. I could even write what to do in Fixt to min-max yourself but I'm sure you know it after playing it through a few times.

Here are my questions for Lexx, or anyone who can answer them:

Killian's store does not replenish. Yet the mod says it should: "FALLOUT 2 styled merchant inventory restocking."
I can't see carrying weight when trading and exchanging between companions, even though the mod seems to be installed when I check ddraw.ini:
[ExtraPatches]
....
;PatchFile10=mods\ShowLootWeight
What is FO1 barter formula? I have it installed if I check ddraw.ini, yet item prices are higher/different than in Fixt.
;PatchFile6=mods\fo1_barter_formula
I talked to Razor kinda late and was unable to get holodisk from her. Thus when we were ready for a fight against the Regulators, I didn't have the disk to convince Jon Zimmerman prior to battle. It seems to be a bug.
Was any revamping done for Aid and Doctor and Outdoorsman? These three are very much useless skills.
I couldn't walk the whole map's distance with 1 click - path finding range was too small. I managed to solved this one by manipulating f2_res.ini.
What can the GECK suitcase be used for?
what does high Charisma now impact? Could I convince the Brotherhood to let me into their storage room? It seems when talking to NPCs that it's not just Speech that matters but Charisma, too. Could anyone elaborate on that?

That's it for now. But we can talk further. I only played Fallout for the first time in May of this year. So it's not a game of my youth, yet it's such a gem of a game!