If Diablo 1 and 2 are getting a remaster, why not Fallout 1 and 2?

[MERCER]

Higher resolution skins, a little more voice-overs, some additional CGI cut-scenes like for different endings...

[xxdrag0n4mlg20b0rnxx]

Because it doesn't make sense, if they're still loads of money off of Skyrim, Fallout 3 and NV, and Fallout 4 then it doesn't make sense to spend more money on games that just won't (from their pov) make as much money as Skyrim or other games mentioned. If yall want a new Fallout 1 remaster, there is one easy step: STOP BUYING Skyrim OR THE GAMES LISTED.

[The Chosen Chad]

I would prefer a new game rather than remaster tbh, a Tactics 2 for exemple or a Isometric Fallout.
Even a Fallout 5 why not, just a new game, not a remaster or remake.

[xxdrag0n4mlg20b0rnxx]

Because everyone and their mothers are still playing fallout 4, 3, and NV. The sad truth is that games are just as trendy as clothes, music, ect. and nobody besides us few want that. If you want a similar game try Wasteland 1 and 2 and in my opinion are better mechanically than the older ones are really good. Otherwise, unless there's another renaissance like the Renaissance of Old Schools FPS, like how Doom(2016) brought it back and the demand that still exists to this day, then A: it will happen but not for a few years or B: never.

As much as I and others here want this dream, it may not even come true my friend.

To close my statement, Companies want money and make more of it and if not enough people show interest and demand it then we are never gonna see a fallout old isometric bleak rpg man. Especially now that (if rumors are to be believed) Fallout New Vegas 2 or something in that style.

[The Chosen Chad]

The fandom doesnt even know what they want right now, Outer World was mediocre (despite being developed by muh "based" Obsidian), and I dont think Obsidian will stray from this kind of RPG Openworld design since Tim Cain in his recent conferences actually dont like his old design choice he did in the original Fallout (which is perfectly fine for him as a designer and trying new things, but I dont like his new ideas). Same for Bethesda, they are more interested to release Skyrim or game with the same design as Skyrim than actually doing RPG games. The Fallout series is in a crisis identity, because on one hand it is a AAA product and bring enourmous cash so games like F76 get released and played, but on the other fans are still here trying to bring back to what Fallout was but since its a AAA franchise and many fans came from many games, some wants a FNV like game but without knowing what FNV was good in the first place (not gameplay thats for sure, and for the story many dont really care or simply want a boring story centered around Vegas again), others want want a Fallout 3/4 like game where its all about surviving and being badass with the BoS and others just want a continuation of the Fallout lore and story but in a cohesive and interesting twist.

And frankly, I dont want Wasteland, I want Fallout to be Fallout. Anyhow, I dont really care about the Fallout franchise anymore, I only follow for the lore or interesting mods like Old World Blues HOI4's mod or modded compaign like the Olympus mod, Fallout Nevada and the hopefully soon to be translated Fallout Sonora. Classic Fallout is all I play from this franchise, good for them if they like current Fallout. Not my cup of tea.

[xxdrag0n4mlg20b0rnxx]

I do personally love those games you hate (except 76 and I haven't played enough of 4 to enough) lol, I do have to agree with you the about identity crisis you speak. Sadly, too many companies feel the need to please everyone these days and stretch themselves too thin all I can say in the matter is that there is plenty of isometric bleak rpg's if you look around.

I will say as a recent (since I was 12) fan of Fallout that I love Wasteland and I implore to give it another go, you might see what many of love about it. Those days of old school Fallout are over but there fans like us how some wonderful isometric bleak rpg's who have faith in the style and want to bring it back in new and innovative ways. One must always be open to try new things, its I fell in love Fallout 1 after all.

But hey, just my opinion after all and I hope you see what I and many of us old school Fallout fans love about Wasteland and many others in the genre.

[Tails]

bethesda doesnt have the source code for the games because they messed with the wrong people at Interplay.

[The Chosen Chad]

sirnieto69 původně napsal:

I do personally love those games you hate (except 76 and I haven't played enough of 4 to enough) lol, I do have to agree with you the about identity crisis you speak. Sadly, too many companies feel the need to please everyone these days and stretch themselves too thin all I can say in the matter is that there is plenty of isometric bleak rpg's if you look around.

Well I dont necessarly hate all those games, Outer Worlds has some good stuff but over all dont have enough of what makes it a good RPG. Fallout 3 is like Oblivion with guns which at the time wasnt really a problem but I get bored of it quite easily now. Fallout 4 and Skyrim are just very dull and dont have the level of polish and care when I think of modern AAA RPGs with ♥♥♥♥ tons of money backed into it compared to small studios who acheive more than these games with less money like Underrail, Lisa, Shadowrunner, Age of Decadence, Elex, or Terminator Resistance.

I will say as a recent (since I was 12) fan of Fallout that I love Wasteland and I implore to give it another go, you might see what many of love about it. Those days of old school Fallout are over but there fans like us how some wonderful isometric bleak rpg's who have faith in the style and want to bring it back in new and innovative ways. One must always be open to try new things, its I fell in love Fallout 1 after all.

You misunderstood my point, to me Wasteland is Wasteland, and Fallout is Fallout. They have different tone, design, lore and story structure. If I want to replay a game like Fallout there is only Fallout, the classic are very unique and hard to replicate, and thats something good I believe. Wasteland is a good game franchise, but its not a subtitute to Classic Fallout games like you point it out, I played Wasteland 2 years ago in my PS4 thought it was pretty good, but they dont have the same spirit and care like the classics got. But still they are solid Tactical RPGs.

[MERCER]

I'm just saying, 'coz a lot of Fallout 1 and 2's contemporaries are getting if not already have remakes or remasters or enhanced editions to have better graphics. Even other genres like Resident Evil and Final Fantasy...

But yeah, getting a Fallout 5 could be good as there are many other states that could be the topic of the next story line... Or maybe even another country----UK, China (to experience being on the "other side" of the war)... Or maybe Fallout: Enclave where you start off as an Enclave soldier, scientist or civilian....

BUUUUUUT, they are probably milking 76 first.... it's a trend among game companies to make games where real cash can be used to buy for in-game stuff.

[xxdrag0n4mlg20b0rnxx]

The only people we can blame are those who give games a pass and keeps playing them even though they're not 100% on release and those who those dumbass mobile games that clearly just there to milk you.

[DUKE NUKEM]

Kids today wouldn't make it without quest markers its a shame

[HE1NZ]

Diablo II Resurrected style remaster for both Fallout games would be great.

[Ceejay]

MERCER původně napsal:

Higher resolution skins, a little more voice-overs, some additional CGI cut-scenes like for different endings...

So because a totally different company, with a different customer base, remakes 2 of its old titles, you think all old games should get a remake, you realise there are thousands and thousands of old games not getting remakes right?

It can also cost quite a bit of money, you really need to know your are going to recoup those costs.

There are loads of reasons why one company might to a rehash and another not. Remember Diablo 3 was released, which was along similar veins of 1&2. so they knew they kind of had a user base.

Beth have not released any kind of similar games lately, they also on purposely moved away from isometric games etc. What they do know is there is a huge market place for First Person Openworld rpg games.

Do not get me wrong, I too would love a hires re-release of the first 2 games, but I totally understand why its not likely to happen.

[quixoticaxis]

D2R is a poor remaster that breaks more than it improves. Why do you need F1 or F2 remasters in the first place? Part of the magic is in their technical limitations.

[Ceejay]

quixoticaxis původně napsal:

D2R is a poor remaster that breaks more than it improves. Why do you need F1 or F2 remasters in the first place? Part of the magic is in their technical limitations.

For me I just cannot get past the dated graphics, which is odd as I play a lot of emulated games. Perhaps had I played f1 and f2 when they first came out, then it may not bother me.

[quixoticaxis]

Ceejay původně napsal:

quixoticaxis původně napsal:

D2R is a poor remaster that breaks more than it improves. Why do you need F1 or F2 remasters in the first place? Part of the magic is in their technical limitations.

For me I just cannot get past the dated graphics, which is odd as I play a lot of emulated games. Perhaps had I played f1 and f2 when they first came out, then it may not bother me.

Could be.