Dear Game devolpers.

[Kevin the Inkling]

You are not politians or activists. You are entertainers. Your works of art. Your efforts.. Are to entertain. No different from a actor in a play or an athlete in a sport.

We come to video games to get away from world problems. To get away from politics and activism and such.

I am not saying the N word isn't offensive. However people say offensive things in the heat of the moment. And I've heard far worse in voice chat with friends and strangers alike.

It was a lifestream. It wasn't edited and he left it there for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles.

It was a tense moment in a PVP game. Anyone who's played PVP can attest to this. Even in the act he caught himself and tried to descalate. Sure that doesn't ecuse the N word being used it also clarifies it was a heat of the moment thinf.

Still offensive or not. I believe in freedom of Speech both in my Nation and online. For many around the world. The internet is the only form of freedom they experience. So yes I am not gonna tolerate this attack on online freedom of speech.

I used to love this game and recomend it to my friends. Even made Turt Reynolds jokes too.

I'm gonna leave a negative review. That's right I'm changing my postive review to a negative one for your behavior here. And I'm not removing the review under any circumstance because your not the only one to do this and pander for forgiveness later. Pandering is not gonna work. You can't go this route anymore and ask for forgiveness.

Game devolpers keep your political opinions to yourself. We don't want them. We're tired on the assults against online freedom of speech under the guise of progressivism.

[Turtler]

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

Is that reason why "i don't get why white people aren't allowed to use that word"

Firstly chowderhead: White people ARE allowed to use that word. (In fact, that's where the origin of this problem comes from). Just because you can't say the word "Fire" in a crowded theatre does not mean you cannot say the word fire.

Doesn't mean that we have to find the use of that word GOOD. it isn't. But it is protected by the law. And I will fight heartily to protect the law.

And I will also freely point out the double standards. Especially when based on race (oh the irony!).

[Turtler]

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Dear Gamers.

Spending a lot of time complaining that nobody wants to associate with someone who throws out racial slurs at the drop of a hat makes you look like idiot racists..

And when you point to the people actually doing that, you're welcome to point them out.

Most of us aren't here for that. Most of us don't like such a vile term for the same reason I don't like the term "Cracker" being used for a living person not made of yeast.

But the bigger issue is not complaining about racist language. It's using racist language to try and abuse the DMCA for a purpose it was never meant to accomplish, and to betray a streaming agreement.

That's even worse than racist speech. Complaining about that doesn't make us look like idiot racists except to the blind and biased. It makes us concerned citizens.

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Games are political. Devs are political. Learn what political means.

You too, chowderhead.

And while you're at it, learn what "Legal" means.

A certain thing that transcends what is political and regulates what can be done.

And why breaking what constitutes as an implied agreement is in fact illegal.

[Werewolf Moms]

Originally posted by Turtler:

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

Is that reason why "i don't get why white people aren't allowed to use that word"

Firstly chowderhead: White people ARE allowed to use that word. (In fact, that's where the origin of this problem comes from). Just because you can't say the word "Fire" in a crowded theatre does not mean you cannot say the word fire.

Doesn't mean that we have to find the use of that word GOOD. it isn't. But it is protected by the law. And I will fight heartily to protect the law.

And I will also freely point out the double standards. Especially when based on race (oh the irony!).

lemme guess, you think being kicked out of a bar for being racist is a violation of free speech

[Werewolf Moms]

Originally posted by Turtler:

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

Sorry kid but everyone's boycotting these guys because "oh no they don't want a self indulgent racist playing their game we gotta fight back"

Firstly stupid: if you're going to be condescending by addressing grown people as "kid", at least show you have justification for being so snooty and superior.

The shoddy quality of your argumentation indicates you don't.

So nice try.

Secondly: If you think that's what the argument boils down to, you're an idiot, and an idiot who doesn't even remember the LAST overboiled brouhaha about Pewdiepie.

So you say people don't like "a racist" using a product and that they have "gotta fight back"? Ok, let's accept that argument.

Then why the flying FARQ did they not simply do what they have a legal right to do, like Disney?

Denounce the behavior in question, rewarite the applicable terms, and simply agree Not To Work With Him Anymore?

THAT IS what actually fighting back looks like, chowderhead. And it is 100% legal.

The problem is that morons such as you think filing a DMCA is the equivalent of a downvote to be used at will. It's not. And in doing so they violated the very clauses under which it is meant to act.

And finally: if you really think Pewdiepie is a racist, you are at best ill informed about him.

Richard Spencer hasn't run charity for Africans frequently. He doesn't have many Black friendso r business partners.

And I could go on. Becuase I've actually helped track and confront actual racists.

Sorry kid for hurting your feelings to spend this time defending how Not Racist you are

[Werewolf Moms]

Originally posted by System32™ | Sleep:

Thanks, im not gonna be interested on an onion-skinned SJW developer trash ever.
Good luck on future Games and Projects, ♥♥♥♥♥.

I love how ironic this is

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Dear Gamers.

Spending a lot of time complaining that nobody wants to associate with someone who throws out racial slurs at the drop of a hat makes you look like idiot racists.

Games are political. Devs are political. Learn what political means.

No-no-no. It's a common problem of a guy who recently got in politics. He want to classify everyone into politics. While most people stay away form it.

The main problem with Campo Santo is not that they used their game development to make political statement basing on it(which is a dirty act on it's own).

They abused DMCA for this. And gamers hate when someone hurt gaming with legal matters.

This DMCA is really problematic, because for now Let's Plays are in grey are, they are not regulated by law. And industry want to stay in this state as long as it can. Because regulation mean legal cases flying all over. While if Campo Santo and Felix go to cout with this they would make legal precedent.
People have enough problems with DMCA act already.

[Turtler]

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

Sorry kid for hurting your feelings to spend this time defending how Not Racist you are

Actions alone are more than enough to prove how not racist I am. If that's not enough for you, then it is pointless to give your definition of "racism" any credence whatsoever.

Which is why I won't focus on it.

I'm not defending how not racist I am, because I don't need to in a free society.

What I am defending is the right of people- Even if they are racist scum like the people I've tracked- to not be shanked on a legal agreement because some dev wants to punish them.

Get the difference yet?

[Werewolf Moms]

Originally posted by rusty_dragon:

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Dear Gamers.

Spending a lot of time complaining that nobody wants to associate with someone who throws out racial slurs at the drop of a hat makes you look like idiot racists.

Games are political. Devs are political. Learn what political means.

No-no-no. It's a common problem of a guy who recently got in politics. He want to classify everyone into politics. While most people stay away form it.

The main problem with Campo Santo is not that they used their game development to make political statement basing on it.

They abused DMCA for this. And gamers hate when someone hurt gaming with legal matters.

This DMCA is really problematic, because for now Let's Plays are in grey are, they are not regulated by law. And industry want to stay in this state as long as it can. Because regulation mean legal cases flying all over. While if Campo Santo and Felix go to cout with this they would make legal precedent.
People have enough problems with DMCA act already.

Gamers also thought death and rape threats were "defending ethics in game journalism" so why should we trust them

[Scruffo]

Originally posted by Turtler:

Most of us aren't here for that. Most of us don't like such a vile term for the same reason I don't like the term "Cracker" being used for a living person not made of yeast.

I don't think anyone should take legal advice from someone who thinks calling a white person cracker is a reference to bread.

[Werewolf Moms]

Originally posted by Turtler:

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

Sorry kid for hurting your feelings to spend this time defending how Not Racist you are

Actions alone are more than enough to prove how not racist I am. If that's not enough for you, then it is pointless to give your definition of "racism" any credence whatsoever.

Which is why I won't focus on it.

I'm not defending how not racist I am, because I don't need to in a free society.

What I am defending is the right of people- Even if they are racist scum like the people I've tracked- to not be shanked on a legal agreement because some dev wants to punish them.

Get the difference yet?

Pews casually said a racial slur then tried to argue context. That's racism.

[selahviolinist]

Maybe it's a good game, but the developers are despicable. They should bear the brunt of their stupidity, and ALL gamers need to make sure that they do. To the ones who bought the game, please keep review bombing.

[Turtler]

Originally posted by PixelSheep:

lemme guess, you think being kicked out of a bar for being racist is a violation of free speech

Nope.

Because any bar owner worth his salt has something like "The owner may deny service to anyone for any reason."

Technically this is not the complete truth (a bar owner can and will be sued if they deny service on the basis of race and it can be proven). But in most conditions it is legally binding.

If someone says a racist term, the bar owner may choose to deny them the service of Standing In The Bar.

That's the key though. That's the informal agreement that governs who goes in the bar.

In this case, the equivalent agreemnt was- and I'm paraphasing- "Stream and monetize away! No bounds!"

Only for Campo santo to realize this meant that even THE BAD PEOPLE (TM) could. And so they got their little knickers in a wirl and decided to try breaking their own company's damn agreement.

[Scruffo]

Originally posted by selahviolinist:

Maybe it's a good game, but the developers are despicable. They should bear the brunt of their stupidity, and ALL gamers need to make sure that they do. To the ones who bought the game, please keep review bombing.

No

[rusty_dragon]

The funny part is Pewds said ni66er without being racist to anyone. And he appologised after 5 seconds(media showed only swearing part, lol).
He got a lot of real world beating for this, threats to cut things he make living from.
Yet it's him evil guy here.

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by Scruffo:

Originally posted by selahviolinist:

Maybe it's a good game, but the developers are despicable. They should bear the brunt of their stupidity, and ALL gamers need to make sure that they do. To the ones who bought the game, please keep review bombing.

No

Yes.