DEAD ISLAND 2 being an Epic Games Store Exclusive Will Hurt Sales Numbers

[chaoszan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOZAEOqVfQI

I personally am sick and tired of the epic games store paying for time exclusivity on their platform. Dambuster/Deepsilver may make money up front, but overall they will make less money because they will sell way less copies on the epic store. If it released on both steam and the epic game store at the same time I would have no issue, and in fact they would make more money that way. Unfortunately that is not the case and steam users will be waiting a year for the game to come to steam. This practice of epic game store timed exclusivity is anti - consumer.

[chaoszan]

I am for the consumer and I believe people should be able to purchase a game on their platform of choice. Whether it be epic games, steam, gog, uplay, origin, battlenet..etc. People should be able to buy a game where they want, but when epic games pays for timed exclusivity they take away that choice. Instead of trying to force users onto their platform they should be trying to win people over by making a better launcher with great features.

[LightReborn444]

I think any game that locks their game behind a specific launcher will have a hard time, the first dead island is on steam, I don't see why they refuse to put the second dead island on steam.

I agree, it should be available on all PC platforms, I personally always prefer steam.

[mr.devolver]

Let's face it. It never really was about what gamers want. For us gamers the reason may be painful, but it's certainly one easily understandable from the business perspective - we, the gamers just aren't the main source of money that would be the decisive factor.

When you compare Steam and Epic. Why was it that Epic was gaining on popularity despite the much longer existence of Steam? There are many reasons, but great offers never seen before here on Steam including free giveaways of AAA titles, something you could only dream of here on Steam is not even the main reason. Epic chose a simple strategy: Win the game developers and publishers by giving them better conditions than they have here on Steam, and the gamers will follow.

As it turns out, the gamers care less about principles and more about playing games, so the platform on which they play is no longer that much big of a factor for them anymore and Epic simply took advantage of it and this strategy has definitely paid off, even with timed exclusivity in place and unfortunately those who consider this timed exclusivity as evil, are in minority which is one very small among many much bigger reasons why it most likely won't change...

In other words, it's the "If you can't beat them, join them" kind of situation and many gamers already did.

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

I don't think so, because otherwise devs and publishers wouldn't do so.
Epic pays them a big amount of $$, they can deal with lower PC sales, on console the game will sale tons.
Then when it comes to steam it will also sale even more. Because if a game is good (assuming this one will be) players will buy it. Saints Row flopped because it is awful.

[chaoszan]

Originally posted by Sabbiosaurus:

I think any game that locks their game behind a specific launcher will have a hard time, the first dead island is on steam, I don't see why they refuse to put the second dead island on steam.

I agree, it should be available on all PC platforms, I personally always prefer steam.

It will come to steam, but after a year exclusivity on the epic games store..sigh. It should be on both at launch. They would make way more sales that way.

[chaoszan]

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Mental Patient:

I don't think so, because otherwise devs and publishers wouldn't do so.
Epic pays them a big amount of $$, they can deal with lower PC sales, on console the game will sale tons.
Then when it comes to steam it will also sale even more. Because if a game is good (assuming this one will be) players will buy it. Saints Row flopped because it is awful.

I am hoping the game is good, but developers that often have bad games usually take the epic deal lmao. Hopefully thats not the case though.

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

Originally posted by chaoszan:

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Mental Patient:

I don't think so, because otherwise devs and publishers wouldn't do so.
Epic pays them a big amount of $$, they can deal with lower PC sales, on console the game will sale tons.
Then when it comes to steam it will also sale even more. Because if a game is good (assuming this one will be) players will buy it. Saints Row flopped because it is awful.

I am hoping the game is good, but developers that often have bad games usually take the epic deal lmao. Hopefully thats not the case though.

Yeah, we need to see more gameplay. But I totally understand people's frustration with exclusive deals. I kinda hate those stuff too. Going exclusive to a specific store is a slap to the face for others.

[chaoszan]

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Mental Patient:

Originally posted by chaoszan:

I am hoping the game is good, but developers that often have bad games usually take the epic deal lmao. Hopefully thats not the case though.

Yeah, we need to see more gameplay. But I totally understand people's frustration with exclusive deals. I kinda hate those stuff too. Going exclusive to a specific store is a slap to the face for others.

i agree. I prefer to have the freedom of choice to purchase a game. It should launch simultaneously on both stores.

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

Originally posted by chaoszan:

Originally posted by Dead4Life The Mental Patient:

Yeah, we need to see more gameplay. But I totally understand people's frustration with exclusive deals. I kinda hate those stuff too. Going exclusive to a specific store is a slap to the face for others.

i agree. I prefer to have the freedom of choice to purchase a game. It should launch simultaneously on both stores.

Facts, well I will fall into their trap. I must have dead island 2 next year... is a sad buy, also sad deluxe edition buy.

[VoID7]

Originally posted by Sabbiosaurus:

I think any game that locks their game behind a specific launcher will have a hard time, the first dead island is on steam, I don't see why they refuse to put the second dead island on steam.

I agree, it should be available on all PC platforms, I personally always prefer steam.

it just makes sense that they would want to go epic exclusive after 8 years of trying to make this game actually release and look good. either way all deep silver games are epic exclusive at launch

[Yakub Lord of Frenzied Flame]

it makes sense steam is greedy af and epic will pay more its competition and im not crying about it because i can just simply install the epic application why the hell do people buy pcs and just stick with steam at that point play a console because sticking to one store front is not my cup of tea.

[Yakub Lord of Frenzied Flame]

also even if not alot will buy it on epic....but borderlands 3 and saints row sales numbers say differently people will eat it up once it does come to steam even harder so its a win win for them so oh well

[Edwin]

The only "upside" to it being an Epic Store exclusive is that the developers of Dead Island 2 will basically get their money back plus their guess estimate of how many sales it might sell. That's how Epic does it. They'll approach a highly anticipated game and give the publish and or developers a type of blank check so that it forces customers who really want it to use their Epic Store front.

[mr.devolver]

Originally posted by Murrmor Meerkat:

it makes sense steam is greedy af and epic will pay more its competition and im not crying about it because i can just simply install the epic application why the hell do people buy pcs and just stick with steam at that point play a console because sticking to one store front is not my cup of tea.

So you don't understand why some other people stick to one platform, because one platform is not your cup of tea?

Have you ever considered it could be that other people are not your clones, but individuals with their own personality and their own personal preferences?

You have your reasons why you prefer multiple platforms, others may have their own reasons why they prefer a single platform. Maybe one of their reasons is simplicity, even luxury of having a single user account with all of their games, rather than having multiple accounts and multiple game libraries.

You need to have all your game platforms installed at once, each of them takes up hundreds of megabytes on the harddrive, considerably more than just one single platform, each of them performs their own individual updates, using considerably more internet bandwidth, possibly costing you more money if your internet has limited data you can transfer per month, each platform has to be up and running just to play different games, taking up more valuable computer resources which could have been used for the game itself instead of the platform the game is running on, not to mention some platforms AND games are adding to the computer resource usage significantly with their own extra DRMs which are all running in the background.

But hey, if you prefer picking up multiple poisons instead of just one, that's your own business...

[o]

We have to come to the sad realization that the opinion and money of any given sub-community of PC gamers have absolutely no influence on the gaming industry's decisions.

Don't like Epic and won't buy it? Too bad for you. They might sell slightly fewer PC copies the first year, but they will sell so many more on the Sony, Microsoft Xbox and Nintendo systems that all have store exclusivity. Not counting the PC gamers who caved because the copy protection was too-tough-to-crack.

We can't stop this by buying fewer games, we're only shrinking the PC consumer base, making our interests even less significant (remember we have other PC specific demands than multiple platforms).

I'm not saying we should give Epic more money, but we are flexible towards games becoming mediocre, incomplete, unoptimized, unstable, cash grabs, etc. so installing/launching the game on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ platform is a non-issue in comparison.