Metal Chests Not Respawning?

[Armads]

So I picked this up on sale when I saw it. I played the original version before the definitive edition, the one that's not on steam anymore, and that one had respawning metal chests whenever you changed areas or reloaded the game, same with every other container in the game.

However, while playing the definitive edition, the metal chests aren't respawning. I've reloaded the game, but I've not changed areas yet to check. Still, it seems odd to me that they're not respawning? Is that a glitch or is it meant to be that way? Because if it's meant to be, it's going to be hard to get better weapons soon while playing.

Edit: I progressed a bit further in the game, enough to travel to the arena, but that also didn't cause the metal chests to respawn. Is this a glitch? Is it on some kind of in-game timer? Because it's a bit lame to be forced to play through the game with paddles and broom handles instead of weapons.

[HUNGRY AS A HIPPY]

I’m pretty sure they no longer respawn in this version

[dale.kaiser]

I never noticed this feature but it seams like it runs on a timer cause once in a while I go on and opened the same chests I thought it was able to be reopened when you quit or close the game but that doesn't effect it at all. I might take a look in how this works

[Armads]

It's amazing how the "definitive edition" makes the game more broken, not less. Yes it added windowed mode, but if the metal chests don't respawn then getting weapons is going to be super difficult, aside from buying them, and that's quite expensive to do. Also I noticed that snacks and fruit seem to be invisible when in cases. They're still there, just invisible.

But back to the main problem, I've heard some people think it's on a timer, but it's not on an out of game timer, and it's not based on quitting and restarting or on area transition. I've only played this version for about three hours; I'll play for a bit more and see if they respawn, but if they don't, I hope someone finds a way to fix it.

Edit: Slight development. I think if you open the chests, but DON'T take the item inside, then the chest respawns when you reload. It seems like what causes the chest not to respawn is the player actually taking the item out. If you leave the item in the chest, and quit out and then reload the game, the chest re-rolls the item inside. This of course, isn't really helpful unless you like having to replay through large swaths of the game repeatedly, re-rolling all the chests and hoping you get a half-decent item. But then doing that ensures that any weapons you get will be worthless in a few levels anyway so...

Hopefully there's a better solution.

[Denis The Machine]

You maybe have to switch to another location and farm the chests there until the other respawn. It feels for me like a in-game timer to avoid you farming same location again and again. (What is good in my opinion)

[Armads]

Originally posted by Denis The Machine:

You maybe have to switch to another location and farm the chests there until the other respawn. It feels for me like a in-game timer to avoid you farming same location again and again. (What is good in my opinion)

Only issue is that I've not seen them respawn on an in-game timer yet. I've changed locations and returned, and that didn't cause them to respawn.

Or do you mean that you think that you have to spend time in other areas of the game for a certain amount of time before the game respawns items in those chests? Because I can confirm that everything else respawns much faster, meaning all the health pickups, closet/container items, and loose items. Everything except the metal chest items.

[legodude494]

Originally posted by Armads:

Originally posted by Denis The Machine:

You maybe have to switch to another location and farm the chests there until the other respawn. It feels for me like a in-game timer to avoid you farming same location again and again. (What is good in my opinion)

Only issue is that I've not seen them respawn on an in-game timer yet. I've changed locations and returned, and that didn't cause them to respawn.

Or do you mean that you think that you have to spend time in other areas of the game for a certain amount of time before the game respawns items in those chests? Because I can confirm that everything else respawns much faster, meaning all the health pickups, closet/container items, and loose items. Everything except the metal chest items.

They originally did this is the old version of Dead Island Riptide, so it's not new to the Definitive Editions. I can agree that I liked the quick respawning chests in the old Dead Island, but I suspect they changed it for Riptide (and kept it for the Definitive editions) for balancing purposes. It likely reduced the amount of people with duplication glitches and similar glitches as well as stopped people farming legendaries to remove all challenge from the game. If you got five legendaries when you are like level 5 because you just did chest runs then sure it'd be cool, but you'd soon grow bored because everything dies instantly, removing challenge and suspense from the game.

As for respawning boxes, I know for a fact they can respawn after you loot them, it just takes a really long time. I don't know exactly how long, but I've looted chests a couple of times and after many times of going back to them, they eventually did respawn for me to open them again. The easiest way to avoid this situation is to simply be smart about looting the metal chests. Only take blue or higher grades from them and you'll be set. You can still do chest runs, just don't loot them for the sake of it.

Again, I don't know how long and like you said, you might need to be in other areas of the map/a different location all together to help them respawn, but I know they do respawn after a time.

Sorry for the long reply, but hope this helps :)

[Armads]

Originally posted by legodude494:

Originally posted by Armads:

Only issue is that I've not seen them respawn on an in-game timer yet. I've changed locations and returned, and that didn't cause them to respawn.

Or do you mean that you think that you have to spend time in other areas of the game for a certain amount of time before the game respawns items in those chests? Because I can confirm that everything else respawns much faster, meaning all the health pickups, closet/container items, and loose items. Everything except the metal chest items.

They originally did this is the old version of Dead Island Riptide, so it's not new to the Definitive Editions. I can agree that I liked the quick respawning chests in the old Dead Island, but I suspect they changed it for Riptide (and kept it for the Definitive editions) for balancing purposes. It likely reduced the amount of people with duplication glitches and similar glitches as well as stopped people farming legendaries to remove all challenge from the game. If you got five legendaries when you are like level 5 because you just did chest runs then sure it'd be cool, but you'd soon grow bored because everything dies instantly, removing challenge and suspense from the game.

As for respawning boxes, I know for a fact they can respawn after you loot them, it just takes a really long time. I don't know exactly how long, but I've looted chests a couple of times and after many times of going back to them, they eventually did respawn for me to open them again. The easiest way to avoid this situation is to simply be smart about looting the metal chests. Only take blue or higher grades from them and you'll be set. You can still do chest runs, just don't loot them for the sake of it.

Again, I don't know how long and like you said, you might need to be in other areas of the map/a different location all together to help them respawn, but I know they do respawn after a time.

Sorry for the long reply, but hope this helps :)

You say that, but it's been 9 hours in game time for me, and they haven't respawned yet. If we assume that you're correct, and I've not seen anything to confirm that you're right and that they do respawn, then it takes such an abnormally long time as to be utterly foolish.

I mean this is a game about loot. And weapons degrade very quickly, both in terms of actual durability and damage as you level. Meaning the game is punishing you for leveling, and punishing you more for investing in items and modifying them, because they'll become entirely useless very quickly, especially without replacements, and money isn't easy to get with how expensive it is to buy weapons.

So I would say that them not respawning, or supposedly respawning abnormally slowly, entirely breaks the game, but I guess that's quite obvious.

[legodude494]

Originally posted by Armads:

Originally posted by legodude494:

They originally did this is the old version of Dead Island Riptide, so it's not new to the Definitive Editions. I can agree that I liked the quick respawning chests in the old Dead Island, but I suspect they changed it for Riptide (and kept it for the Definitive editions) for balancing purposes. It likely reduced the amount of people with duplication glitches and similar glitches as well as stopped people farming legendaries to remove all challenge from the game. If you got five legendaries when you are like level 5 because you just did chest runs then sure it'd be cool, but you'd soon grow bored because everything dies instantly, removing challenge and suspense from the game.

As for respawning boxes, I know for a fact they can respawn after you loot them, it just takes a really long time. I don't know exactly how long, but I've looted chests a couple of times and after many times of going back to them, they eventually did respawn for me to open them again. The easiest way to avoid this situation is to simply be smart about looting the metal chests. Only take blue or higher grades from them and you'll be set. You can still do chest runs, just don't loot them for the sake of it.

Again, I don't know how long and like you said, you might need to be in other areas of the map/a different location all together to help them respawn, but I know they do respawn after a time.

Sorry for the long reply, but hope this helps :)

You say that, but it's been 9 hours in game time for me, and they haven't respawned yet. If we assume that you're correct, and I've not seen anything to confirm that you're right and that they do respawn, then it takes such an abnormally long time as to be utterly foolish.

I mean this is a game about loot. And weapons degrade very quickly, both in terms of actual durability and damage as you level. Meaning the game is punishing you for leveling, and punishing you more for investing in items and modifying them, because they'll become entirely useless very quickly, especially without replacements, and money isn't easy to get with how expensive it is to buy weapons.

So I would say that them not respawning, or supposedly respawning abnormally slowly, entirely breaks the game, but I guess that's quite obvious.

I agree, the game is about looting and I don't have any proof as such other than my word, which is nothing let's be honest, this is the internet. I much preferred the boxes as they were, respawning every time you loaded the game, switching an area or simply refilling when all the other loot does as well. I have no idea what possessed them to change it in Riptide nor why they brought it to the DE versions of the game. There may be a mod to change them back, or something in the game files to edit the chest spawns, but as it is I know I have seen boxes respawn, but only after a truly ridiculous amount of time (and I'm talking likely several days IRL of playing maybe) but they do respawn.

As for weapon degradation, it is certainly a pain, especially for sharp weapons as I have been playing through as Xian Mei, though I normally play as Sam B, and the early parts of the game where you have limited money and resources, weapon degradation is the main killer. However after levelling up and getting some more cash, it becomes less of an issue.

In short, I absolutely agree with you that the non-respawning boxes are madness and should definitely been kept how they were, but my original reply was my only explanation on why it was changed in the first place. I'm not trying to argue, simply try and offer an explanation on it. I would suggest going down the route in the survival tree to get lower prices at venders on whatever character you're playing or if you're playing Sam B, go for the skill to get more money looted from zombies. It's what I did and it helps a lot with getting blue, purple or orange grade weapons from venders at slightly more affordable prices.

[Elziad Lucianus]

So I seem to have worked out a way around this. I'm in Act Two at 62% completion and have a side mission accepted but not started from the church. If I am in the city with that mission tracked when I quit the game (not just quite continue but quit, then quit again and start the game in Steam) I'll next load in outside the church and when I fast travel to the Resort all the chests are active.

However, If I quit the game in any other area or with a quest that doesn't take place in the area I'm quitting in, then when I log in next I'll spawn at the main story questline and the chests will still be empty.

[Cr@ckerJ@ck (PERÚ)]

DIDE respawn ALL CHESTS, only quit the game and enter again, same position obviously but the content is 100% random.

[One death guy]

Originally posted by Cr@ckerJ@ck (PER):

DIDE respawn ALL CHESTS, only quit the game and enter again, same position obviously but the content is 100% random.

wtf you talking about?

I just started playing the game and I have the same issue. At first I thought it was a bug or glitch but after reading this thread it seems this is a game mechanic....

[One death guy]

I made a small discovery. I think the chest respawn is connected to real time (as in not time in game but actual time)

I started the game now, over 20 hours after I played it last and the chest that was not respawning, respawned new loot

[Jin]

Money is no issue in DI, when you die you have 7 seconds until you actually die, if you press "esc" and "load last checkpoint" you won't lose any money and all your weapons will be with you. I am level 32 on a new character atm and I have orange weapon fully upgraded and modded and 120k money. I also play as Purna and have +15% rare loot chance, I get a lot of blue or better weapons from chests. If you plan to play longterm then play as her first and level to +rare loot chance to get showered with good loot. Once she is max level you can do some chest runs with her and get your other characters gear for arena.

Easy farm spot for money (use load checkpoint trick) after Hotel you can respawn 2 Thugs that yield 2k+ (depends on lvl) per kill. Just throw them to death with 8 weapons, enter hotel again, go out again, insta respawned 2 thugs again, repeat until you have enough money. You might get a good weapon too, they can drop orange.

If you just play once for story then you won't need any good weapon anyway. Just upgrade and modify a green weapon (buy from shop) every 3 levels and you are good to go. Game is pretty easy anyway. The hardest part of DI is to collect all ID cards, hahaha, you will need guide for it, and a lot of time. :D

Also, another tip: vendor change their offering after each level up, so check every vendor for orange weapon. I usually find orange weapon like this easy with new character. Again, money is no issue in DI, use trick. :)