Ore vein removed from map but ore still in vein

[war4peace]

Hi all,

Game seed is 2309115 in case it matters. Rented server, 8 player slots, playing alone.

I have noticed that ore veins disappear from the map even if there's ore still remaining. It looks like the game thinks the ore reached 0% while this is not true.

Some rough calculations showed me that the game inflates the vein depletion by a factor of 1.33 (for every 3 ore the game removes 4 ore from the pool). I might be wrong though and the ratio is different, but it's definitely above 1.

As a workaround, I am parking motorcycles near the ore veins to find them again on the map if I am not depleting them manually.

[aceman65]

Yep, had that happen to me several times. I think the game auto deletes the resource icon from the map when it hits the number of units displayed for that resource. But I've aways found that you get slightly more from a vein than the figure displays.

For example, if the game says there is an ore deposit with 10254 in it, you can usually mine more than that out of it. But the game will remove it from the map when it hits 10254.

[Pantera]

How much ore was left when it vanished from the map ?

[war4peace]

Can't really say. I only noticed the icon disappearing after being at it for a while. But I used a whole extra bio fuel charge with a tier 1 mining drill after noticing it and there is still ore left there. I would say one more bio fuel charge left there right now. So maybe 500 ore if not more.
Given that node only contained about 1500 ore as displayed in the game... it's no small difference.

[aceman65]

Best way to test this is to pick a deposit that has a low yield (1000 to 2000) Stock up on drill charges and then mine it out completely. Then check how much ore is in your inventory and check it against how much the game said was in it.

I've always managed to get between 200 to 800 more ores out depending on it's size.

But it would be nice if the game left the ore icon on the map and just changed it's description to "depleted"

[Pantera]

Originally posted by aceman65:

But it would be nice if the game left the ore icon on the map and just changed it's description to "depleted"

Why ?
Once it has been depleted there is no need for a icon there anymore.

[aceman65]

Originally posted by Pantera:

Originally posted by aceman65:

But it would be nice if the game left the ore icon on the map and just changed it's description to "depleted"

Why ?
Once it has been depleted there is no need for a icon there anymore.

True, but as the original post points out, not all the ore has been removed before the icon is removed.

Wouldn't you want to double check those rare deposits to see if anything is left? Particularly on a mulitiplayer server where you might not have mined it yourself. But if the icon is removed you won't even know where to check.

[Pantera]

Originally posted by aceman65:

True, but as the original post points out, not all the ore has been removed before the icon is removed.

I see that I seem to remember it being once the deposit get to around 15/10% or a little lower the icon is removed. Im not sure if thats intentional I will ask hummel about it.

Originally posted by aceman65:

Wouldn't you want to double check those rare deposits to see if anything is left? Particularly on a mulitiplayer server where you might not have mined it yourself. But if the icon is removed you won't even know where to check.

If the icons stayed until ALL ore has been removed then yes I would check it out. But I dont think having a icon there to show 'Depleted' is needed.

[Pantera]

Just asked fyi & its a known issue. Thanks for reporting.

[aceman65]

Cheers Pantera,

At least we know they are aware of it. "Case Closed" :)

[war4peace]

Sorry for not posting any updates.
So as I had mentioned this was on a rented server. After logging back in the next day, the icon reappeared and was showing "11% of 869" (or a number close to 869). After completely mining it out, the icon disappeared again for good.

I'd actually be in favor of a different icon showing up for depleted veins, to mark the location of the hole. Could this come in handy for someone who would make an underground base in an already dug hole?

LE: quick update: I found a Silicon vein with 862 Silicon, mined it until it disappeared from map, checked cargo: 414 ore.

LLE: update2: Cobalt vein with 542 ore at 100%, the percentage dropped rapidly to 11% and when I stopped drilling the icon disappeared. 287 cobalt ore in box.

Using a self-created mining HV with 5 drills.

[aceman65]

I've never used a HV drill, I've always used my T2 Drill. But based on the figures I get compared to the ones your getting, it looks like there is possibly a problem with the HV drill unit.

I always seem to get more ore out than the listed figure. But I also always stand on the surface and use my drone to do the mining and once depleted switch the mode of the T2 drill to filler and cap off the hole.

[KieL]

I had the same problem as war4peace, where drill HV doesnt even get half of the ore that the vein says it has. But, what I noticed also is whenever I drill with HV the server lags for me ( where it delays when open my inventory etc.) and more ore seems to dissappear after I stop mining.

[grrantu]

I have the same problem with the ore deposit reporting a much lower % of ore remaining than is actually there, but the totals I get after mining out the deposit completely (meaning remove all the ore I can see) always match the total ore in the deposit.