Why doesn't this game have wheels?

[BBBBilly]

Why doesn't this game have wheels? Disheartening...
And motorcycle back, at least we should choose the model.

[TwitchyJ]

It's because wheels in a game like this tend to be trash and WAY more trouble then they are worth.
Just look at Space Engineers for an example, wheels are crap in that game even though the devs have spent probably tens of thousands of hours getting them to the point they are at currently.
They are still crap.

We have hover mechanics, which fills the exact same role as wheels but does it better and with MUCH less headache on the devs side.

The old motorbike was a test of sorts for wheels.
Even after making adjustments on it for years upon years it still proved it just wasn't worth it.
That was with a motorbike...... Whole other can of worms when we are talking about player built vessels that can be in any shape and layout the player chooses.
Not worth it at all.

So the devs decided that wheels are never happening in this game. It's decided and they are sticking to that decision.
If that is a deal breaker for you then I would move on, because they are dead sure they aren't going to backtrack on this one.

For the record, the devs are in no way saying wheels are impossible.
They are simply saying they aren't worth the trouble (they aren't) and so they are never doing them.

Same thing for rotors, pistons, and truly moving subgrids.
They have already decided none of them are happening in this game.
They said they all bring way too many complications and they are out.

[TwitchyJ]

As for why you can't have the motorbike AND the hoverbike and choose the "model" you want, that's because they had to change and replace the vessel controller that handles that when they switched to the hoverbike.

There are a LOT more things that went on behind the scenes on that one.
It isn't just a different model at all.

The vessel controller is what handles how the vessel behaves on the code side.
They had to gut and remove the motorbike side of it to get the hoverbike to work.
So you can't simply just switch models back.

Likewise, there is ZERO incentive for the devs to leave the motorbike in the game anyways.
It was plagued with issues. Leaving it in the game means they will be constantly flooded with bug reports to fix it when they have no plans on continuing wheels at all.
It is basically a lose-lose scenario for the devs if they were to leave it in.

[BBBBilly]

Thank you very much for your answer. You have solved my doubts. To be honest, if it weren't for technical reasons, it would be great if the wheels could appear properly in this game. I'm sorry to complain because my hover mining vehicle is stuck underground, so I'm thinking about what would happen if there were wheels or caterpillar track, even walking (mecha)

[BBBBilly]

If there were more ways to move, I think this game would surpass most games. Of course, I know this is difficult to achieve, but I still appreciate you saying so much to solve my doubts. Thank you!

[TwitchyJ]

Wheels are one of those things that the devs kept giving vague replies on leaving people to assume they might happen eventually.

The devs themselves performed like a yearly(ish) player survey for a little bit, and on at least one of those surveys they included a multiple choice voting for the mechanic/addition players wanted to see in the game most.
The devs themselves added wheels as an option to pick on at least one of those survey votes. I think you could pick 3 or so choices as your top choices for each player that participated.
When the results came out wheels were either the top choice or very near the top, I can't remember anymore.

Fast forward some years without any confirmation or denial that they would actually be adding wheels or not eventually. On the official site.
A certain individual kept asking about wheels again and again in every update post, dev/staff created discussion, etc until one of the devs/staff just snapped one day and exclaimed that wheels would never happen, said they were told already, and said that we have the hover mechanic already and that is that.
Ever since then the official stance has been that wheels are not happening.

People were left hanging for so long without an official stance, and for many based on the surveys it was assumed wheels would eventually happen.
A lot of people were shocked on how we were told about it by the sudden exclamation to the individual that kept asking. It is what it is though.

I personally never cared much one way or the other. A lot of people were let down though.

[BBBBilly]

Originally posted by TwitchyJ:

Wheels are one of those things that the devs kept giving vague replies on leaving people to assume they might happen eventually.

The devs themselves performed like a yearly(ish) player survey for a little bit, and on at least one of those surveys they included a multiple choice voting for the mechanic/addition players wanted to see in the game most.
The devs themselves added wheels as an option to pick on at least one of those survey votes. I think you could pick 3 or so choices as your top choices for each player that participated.
When the results came out wheels were either the top choice or very near the top, I can't remember anymore.

Fast forward some years without any confirmation or denial that they would actually be adding wheels or not eventually. On the official site.
A certain individual kept asking about wheels again and again in every update post, dev/staff created discussion, etc until one of the devs/staff just snapped one day and exclaimed that wheels would never happen, said they were told already, and said that we have the hover mechanic already and that is that.
Ever since then the official stance has been that wheels are not happening.

People were left hanging for so long without an official stance, and for many based on the surveys it was assumed wheels would eventually happen.
A lot of people were shocked on how we were told about it by the sudden exclamation to the individual that kept asking. It is what it is though.

I personally never cared much one way or the other. A lot of people were let down though.

Okay, I thought I had been hoping that the wheel would eventually appear, so it seems like it won't happen.

[Es'carli]

As long as I've been playing the game they've never given a vague answer on wheels, they have a hover concept for the game and wheels isn't part of that.

[The Big Brzezinski]

What is OP talking about? The game does wheels just fine.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962900460

[BBBBilly]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

What is OP talking about? The game does wheels just fine.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962900460

Is it... You're a genius