Autominers on bedrock collect rock

[ForgeTec]

anyone on a multiplayer server knows you can use allot of concrete and this can create massive open pit mines.

So why not allow autominers placed on bed rock to collect rock? I mean it doesnt' break anything in game its a resouces the miners obviously can drill into it and get us plenty of rock without destroying a worlds worth of mountians for a guild hall

seems like 2x normal iron mining speed would be apropriate since you use ALLOT of rock dust - of course they would be limited to 1 per planet per player to limit miss use

[Alec White]

That's a good idea, if you don't want people to strip mine entire planets. Specially in servers with a lot of players.

[Solarus]

This sounds like an excellent idea.

[ForgeTec]

on planets with allot of noobs to you can get areas so deep people can fall to their deaths to so the ability to place a deep hole UNDER a base and mine for rock would be great way to stock up even in single player since allot of buildings (specially armored concrete) need lots of rock

doesnt' seem like it would be hard to program either - or they could even make it so its just not near a deposit it mines rock instead of near bed rock

[Tryst49]

I find that digging out an underground base as well as other mining operations yields more than enough crushed rock already. I have a huge underground base and well over 10,000 (and growing) crushed rock left over.

If you build with concrete blocks underground in SP or on a PVE server, it doesn't matter since nothing can get to it to destroy it. Only in PVP is it necessary to build with steel underground.

[ForgeTec]

Originally posted by tryst49:

I find that digging out an underground base as well as other mining operations yields more than enough crushed rock already. I have a huge underground base and well over 10,000 (and growing) crushed rock left over.

If you build with concrete blocks underground in SP or on a PVE server, it doesn't matter since nothing can get to it to destroy it. Only in PVP is it necessary to build with steel underground.

and on a server where people constantly dig up the ground you have a choice between strip mining a planet to nothing OR resetting the terrian - if you reset the terrian it means no one can make a underground base if you do it fills in and on login you either fall through the earth to your death loseing everything or you spawn on the surface forced to dig it all out again each time with a hand drill

that said just cause you build underground doesn't mean others do - I personally like orbital station and over water on planets as such I have to go make a strip mine to get ore then my friends come over and use it and by the end of it there is a lake sized hole to bed rock or a missing mountian that can kill a new player who drives into it

simply put the concept has no real downside - minimal work - and helps people with less time then you or who don't build underground get resources without crushing a entire world - so why not?

[Móðsognir]

I would like instead to see a check box for stone added to the auto-miner fuel/ore window. Getting stone at an ore site should be an option, but even just throwing a miner outside your base no where near an ore site could return you stone. it would still cost you fuel.

[ForgeTec]

Originally posted by Móðsognir:

I would like instead to see a check box for stone added to the auto-miner fuel/ore window. Getting stone at an ore site should be an option, but even just throwing a miner outside your base no where near an ore site could return you stone. it would still cost you fuel.

another concept based on that idea - is just have it mining stone as a natural product of it running on ore deposits

[Móðsognir]

Originally posted by ForgeDrake:

Originally posted by Móðsognir:

I would like instead to see a check box for stone added to the auto-miner fuel/ore window. Getting stone at an ore site should be an option, but even just throwing a miner outside your base no where near an ore site could return you stone. it would still cost you fuel.

another concept based on that idea - is just have it mining stone as a natural product of it running on ore deposits

Except that at some point you will get people complaining that the crushed stone is taking up too much of the room that would otherwise have held ore, and people not liking having to pull crushed stone out to delete it because it is no longer useful to them. I think having options to customize is always better.

[ForgeTec]

Originally posted by Móðsognir:

Originally posted by ForgeDrake:

another concept based on that idea - is just have it mining stone as a natural product of it running on ore deposits

Except that at some point you will get people complaining that the crushed stone is taking up too much of the room that would otherwise have held ore, and people not liking having to pull crushed stone out to delete it because it is no longer useful to them. I think having options to customize is always better.

just have 2 production bars then they dont compete

[VulcanTourist]

All this because selfish idiots can't be bothered to dig a small inconspicuous hole deep down and THEN mine for crushed stone where it won't affect anyone else? This is exactly why I choose to play solo.

Oh, and you can also fill your backpack with Crushed Stone from "strip mining" a single asteroid.

[ForgeTec]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

All this because selfish idiots can't be bothered to dig a small inconspicuous hole deep down and THEN mine for crushed stone where it won't affect anyone else? This is exactly why I choose to play solo.

well first off you apparently have never had to build a base for more then 1 person and thats why your confused

see I've seen guilds have to tear up miles of land under ground leaving holes so deep to quarys that noobs can insta die from slipping into one - add in the several mining bugs that can turn a hours worth of crushed rock into a single stack of 200 - and if you have a few miners running at same time it can slow the entire planet down

and this is all fine and dandy at the moment but when they add real planet concepts like land slides and cave collapses this kind of concept will be impossible meaning the only way to do it is massive strip mining operations for the massive bases I've seen

meaning either we need A a better form of asteroid mining allowing planet mining to be early game then moving into space or B a better form of auto miner - now auto miner upgrade would be pretty simple concepts why I focused on that cause it could help people today rather then a year from now

so MAYBE don't just judge people and act all angry like cause you don't understand others

[Sparrowhawk65]

Automining rock would be a great idea. Though by the time a player has reached that level, they could have made a lot of Swiss-cheese out of the planet.

In the game I'm running now (SP) I'm mining part of an iron asteroid to get the rocks I need. I've left the planet intact. That's mining with a hand drill, because I'm so old school. :) I'd imagine CV mining would be vastly faster.

I can see the point in MP for a better system.

[ForgeTec]

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk65:

Automining rock would be a great idea. Though by the time a player has reached that level, they could have made a lot of Swiss-cheese out of the planet.

In the game I'm running now I'm mining part of an iron asteroid to get the rocks I need. I've left the planet intact. That's mining with a hand drill, because I'm so old school. :) I'd imagine CV mining would be vastly faster.

I can see the point in MP for a better system.

meh with current space mining tech you probably would be faster with the hand drill t2 the CV drills are not even as good as the t1 hover miners drills the t2 laser drills are far faster (iff wonky and broke half the time) the laser turret drill is..... and the cv drill is short ranged and can only use 1 at a time per person which means with a hand drill I could clear a entire planets worth of ore in the time for 2-3 asteroids

as such with the glitches for MP in mining as is causing even more issues with concrete and rebuilding of bases in pvp zones cause of damange you can rip a planet apart pretty quickly

that said - auto targeting cv miners are "in the works" buttttttttt how long unkown

[Móðsognir]

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

All this because selfish idiots can't be bothered to dig a small inconspicuous hole deep down and THEN mine for crushed stone where it won't affect anyone else? This is exactly why I choose to play solo.

what, you think you are special because you'll use autominers for ore but not stone? or do you just not use autominers at all and think your better than anyone else for it. never go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[VulcanTourist]

Originally posted by Móðsognir:

Originally posted by VulcanTourist:

All this because selfish idiots can't be bothered to dig a small inconspicuous hole deep down and THEN mine for crushed stone where it won't affect anyone else? This is exactly why I choose to play solo.

what, you think you are special because you'll use autominers for ore but not stone? or do you just not use autominers at all and think your better than anyone else for it. never go full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

What are you on about? I was observing the stupidity of strip mining for stone so extensive that it becomes a health hazard, not commenting on the suggestion directly. I have no objection to the suggestion, and I might use it myself if I play an instance where I have enough autominer cores to spare for that. I've always had an excess of stone just from my mountain excavations.