Planet Size

[harley9699]

After going through a ton of discussions, I Never DID find the 'real' answer about not being able to choose planet size anymore. Why the change, if it is one? What am I missing? My only 'choice' is small. Thanks.

[Priest]

Since the startersystem is not Random anymore, you cant choose anything, its allways the same

[TwitchyJ]

You can still choose planet size if the scenario is set up for it.
The default games scenario is set up in a way that it doesn't allow it.

You are not starting on planets in the default scenario. You are starting on moons. Since they are meant to be moons they are fixed in size.
That is the whole reason.

[Docsprock]

Its because of this I play very little anymore.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Further reading.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/383120/view/3353506719961920818

[Tialuna Rem-Iskalia]

As a "modder" I know the difficulties generating planets with different sizes. You have to use the static yaml file for generating pois, enemies, wildlife, drones, base attacks etc. and the dynamic yaml file for the appeareance of the planet.

You set up the complete planet in size, climatic, weather, bioms and so on. And thats the problem. When I created my Lost Scenario I have to deal with a problem, that some seeds working not correctly when the Size of a planet is variable. I got many many many internal error messages on the egde of the planet because the game has set the size to middle (in yaml = 3) but the real one is big (yaml size = 4). So the POI setting comes to struggle, the ressources also.

When choose only one size, all is working correctly - besides the other not fixed bugs in this game.

[ravien_ff]

That's because starter planets in fixed systems cannot have their sizes set, like mentioned above.
If the starter system was randomized you could set the size.

[harley9699]

So, even though I've played the hell out of this (>300 hours), I always have to start with the tutorial moon/planet now?

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Further reading.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/383120/view/3353506719961920818

Main things I saw were:

Added Tutorial for new players
Updated all random generated playfields to the latest version
Added TemperatePlateau, Snow2 and DesertBurnt to the Galaxy Generation
Player Start always in Crash Site on Atlon, Mato, Itaka, Taldor and Korro

(*I* didn't. Started on that damn tut moon - repeatedly)

More confused than ever. Do I HAVE to build a scenario to do any customizations?

[HurtfulPlayer97]

Originally posted by harley9699:

Player Start always in Crash Site on Atlon, Mato, Itaka, Taldor and Korro

This is specifically for the Invader vs Defender Scenario.
Those are not the starting planets for the Default Single player.
If playing the Default Single player game then yes you must start on the premade fixed small starters. But there are many other scenarios you can choose from.

[HurtfulPlayer97]

Originally posted by harley9699:

Do I HAVE to build a scenario to do any customizations?

You always had to build your own scenario to do customizations.

[Amrak]

One of the complaints from all of us who have been playing this game for years. 7 years for me. I hate the newbie tut start only. Their answer is to build a ship and leave the starter sector ASAP. I no loner play vanilla for that and many other reasons. I play RE and RE2 scenarios from the workshop.

There are some on the workshop that bypass the tutorial.
You could build a scenario if you like.

[harley9699]

Originally posted by Amrak:

One of the complaints from all of use who have been playing this game for years. 7 years for me. I hate the newbie tut start only. Their answer is to build a ship and leave the starter sector ASAP. I no loner play vanilla for that and many other reasons. I play RE and RE2 scenarios from the workshop.

There are some on the workshop that bypass the tutorial.
You could build a scenario if you like.

Well, I'm going to have to look into the Workshop then. This 'change' is bllsht. PLUS, Satisfactory is releasing a huge update on 09/10 - so, in just a few days.

You mentioned "7 Years", so I looked at my page for this game, where you put your own tags. I have an entry that says, "Pre-Alpha Nov. 2015" !!! hahahaha Can't believe after almost 10 years, one stupid decision by them is going to run me off. They fix it back, I'll come back. if not, **** 'em.

Obv, the game has changed a TON... but never some blindly idiotic move.

[Amrak]

Originally posted by harley9699:

Originally posted by Amrak:

One of the complaints from all of use who have been playing this game for years. 7 years for me. I hate the newbie tut start only. Their answer is to build a ship and leave the starter sector ASAP. I no loner play vanilla for that and many other reasons. I play RE and RE2 scenarios from the workshop.

There are some on the workshop that bypass the tutorial.
You could build a scenario if you like.

Well, I'm going to have to look into the Workshop then. This 'change' is bllsht. PLUS, Satisfactory is releasing a huge update on 09/10 - so, in just a few days.

You mentioned "7 Years", so I looked at my page for this game, where you put your own tags. I have an entry that says, "Pre-Alpha Nov. 2015" !!! hahahaha Can't believe after almost 10 years, one stupid decision by them is going to run me away. They fix it back, I'll come back. if not, **** 'em.

Do not hold your breath on them changing the starting sector. In the last couple of years they have dumbed down the game so it is not to hard for new players. Making it less and less fun to play vanilla. RE and RE2 is the only thing keeping this game installed on my PC.

[harley9699]

That's a shame. My main genre is wargames... luckily, they generally keep them the same OR make 'em tougher. :D Are you talking about"Reforged Eden"? w/ the 1st one discontinued and the 2nd in Beta?

[ravien_ff]

Originally posted by harley9699:

That's a shame. My main genre is wargames... luckily, they generally keep them the same OR make 'em tougher. :D Are you talking about"Reforged Eden"? w/ the 1st one discontinued and the 2nd in Beta?

Yes. RE2 has 14 starting planets ranging from easy to ultra hard and everything in between. But make sure you read the description on the workshop as it changes a LOT with the game!

[harley9699]

Originally posted by ravien_ff:

Originally posted by harley9699:

That's a shame. My main genre is wargames... luckily, they generally keep them the same OR make 'em tougher. :D Are you talking about"Reforged Eden"? w/ the 1st one discontinued and the 2nd in Beta?

Yes. RE2 has 14 starting planets ranging from easy to ultra hard and everything in between. But make sure you read the description on the workshop as it changes a LOT with the game!

Thanks, I will. Skimmed through it before the download and realized, "Man ! gotta study this one!" hahaha