Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Spaghettioz Jul 26, 2020 @ 3:30pm
Imerat Class Destroyer OP :P
Well, it isnt quite OP but I got attacked by one and several drones. Killed drones, shot in and out till shield died.

Took off all the turrets.

Took of all the back engines.

Ship still moving forward and turning at fast hard angles.

Okay, take off the top and bottom thruster banks too. All but one small set front right cause its twisting too fast trying to get its big guns on me.

Ship is still going and making turns at a CV that my SV can hardly do. Its speed remains the same, and its turning remains the same. Bugged, or what am I missing? Used to just have to take off the back thrusters to disable a ship here.
Last edited by Spaghettioz; Jul 27, 2020 @ 8:56am
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Spaghettioz Jul 26, 2020 @ 3:38pm 
Just killed the last couple engines.

Its still twisting and moving full speed trying to bring forward guns on me. Wtf :P
CatDoge Jul 26, 2020 @ 10:19pm 
I decided to turn on god mode to see what was inside the ship. There were a lot of Advanced RCSs inside, so that explains why the ship can turn so quickly. As for the speed after destroying the thrusters, it could be AI cheese, I dunno.
Spaghettioz Jul 27, 2020 @ 8:24am 
I think it might have just been an in game bug? I restarted and it stopped moving. But man I shot off SO MUCH good loot in the form of the thrusters lol :P

But be wary: I have beaten several different class CVs now, and taken their cores with no issues. This one blew up and vanished in full in about 30s after I did it. Another bug? Or a feature of the ship. I lost like 5 loot containers ugh.
Calagan Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:20am 
The ship vanishing after removing the core isn't a bug, it' designed like that. But the timing is unfortunately too short for a proper looting.

For your speedy CV, even without trhuster, if it has enough RCS remaining, it still can move. AFAK, RCS act as omni directionnal thrusters
Last edited by Calagan; Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:21am
shdwdrvr83 Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Spaghettioz:
I think it might have just been an in game bug? I restarted and it stopped moving. But man I shot off SO MUCH good loot in the form of the thrusters lol :P

But be wary: I have beaten several different class CVs now, and taken their cores with no issues. This one blew up and vanished in full in about 30s after I did it. Another bug? Or a feature of the ship. I lost like 5 loot containers ugh.

It's a feature of all NPC CVs that if you destroy the core, they vanish in a short time. The solution is to have your own core on hand, blow theirs and immediately replace it with yours. In my experience there's just enough time for me to blow theirs from my CV, jump out and place mine with a couple seconds to spare. It's really tight though, and should be extended IMO.
Once you place your own core, you should have as much time as you need to loot it.

On the topic of looting: instead of taking out the thrusters to stop the ship from moving, just blast your way directly to the core (removing defensive turrets if necessary to give you time). Once the core goes down, the ship stops moving (but the despawn countdown starts). This, at least for me, has been the best way of preserving the largest amount of loot on the ship, as often the best loot containers are placed right next to thrusters, generators, etc that get easily destroyed.
Priest Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by shdwdrvr83:
The solution is to have your own core on hand, blow theirs and immediately replace it with yours.
Impossible on multiplayer (at least the official)
Last edited by Priest; Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:37am
The Big Brzezinski Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:48am 
Finding the core is the problem, though. It's a pain to go through every ship and POI in creative just to find it.

The fact that ships despawn so quickly is very damaging to space combat. Taking prizes would be a heck of a fun way of gathering resources. Since you can't realistically harvest a disabled ship, they remain simple road hazards between asteroids.
Spaghettioz Jul 27, 2020 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Calagan:
The ship vanishing after removing the core isn't a bug, it' designed like that. But the timing is unfortunately too short for a proper looting.

For your speedy CV, even without trhuster, if it has enough RCS remaining, it still can move. AFAK, RCS act as omni directionnal thrusters

It seems bugged for sure. I have a few cruisers and CVs in my own home system that are still there long after I looted and cored them. This one blew everything up immediately and damn near killed me too. I frankly was expecting it to go eventually. Not that fast though.

And the RCS essentially kept the ship remaining at full normal speeds too. They certainly have been boosted since last time I dove deep into the game. This style of destroyer is frankly pretty big. It moved almost as well as my SV did lol.

A relog helped the bug for sure. It took nearly 2 hours to get that thing to stop and I had to relog to do it ugh :P And then to lose all that loot. The lewt ♥♥♥♥♥ in me wept.
Spaghettioz Jul 29, 2020 @ 5:23pm 
They gotta take a couple RCS out of these things. Got ambushed by a second one and had to eventually withdraw. They whip around so damn fast and turn on a dime that its hard to hit anything, with 60 turrets firing at me lol :P
Last edited by Spaghettioz; Jul 30, 2020 @ 7:31pm
Lord Quinton Jul 29, 2020 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by Scooby:
This and phasing through these CV has been an issues since they were added. My guess is it is some sort of AI issues of which the current team lacks the experience to fix. With the game leaving EA we can only hope there is a plan to bring someone in to work on the AI. Game could be great if the AI was well Intelligent and perhaps less buggy.

TY though as I did not realize that a relog would stop the ship from moving. Never thought of that and should know better with almost 5k hrs.

from what i've seen of the game, the current team lacks enough experience to make a program that says 'hello world' without melting their computer. this game has been in early access for 5 years and many of its major bugs have been sitting around unfixed since it first showed up. But hey, i guess with it going to full release now they aren't bugs, they're features. Maybe one day the devs will get off their fat asses and fix some ♥♥♥♥, then again maybe one day i'll suddenly discover a personality trait beyond irritated.:berserk:
Zoekoff Jul 30, 2020 @ 12:35am 
you could just think of this one as a spoiler mob, I can remember a couple of multiplayer games that had areas where for example you play from level 5 to 15, but with one or two level 30-50 level mobs that wandered around so if you as a low level where not careful to watch out for them you got one-hit hammered, sometimes literally.
Brakiri Aug 18, 2020 @ 10:41am 
The Imerat is hardcore for sure.
I placed all available guns on my ship from projectile turrets to rockets, i think i was carrying 40 turrets and still, it took quite a while to take down its shields and after i killed 5 or 6 of its turrets my own shields were about to drop, so i retreated..man this thing is a piece of WORK.
Priest Aug 18, 2020 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by pool13:
The Imerat is hardcore for sure.
I placed all available guns on my ship from projectile turrets to rockets, i think i was carrying 40 turrets and still, it took quite a while to take down its shields and after i killed 5 or 6 of its turrets my own shields were about to drop, so i retreated..man this thing is a piece of WORK.
Well if you use a real warship you dont stop when your shields are empty.
Shields are good to run with your camper, but a real warship does not even need one


btw the core is not that deep burried
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2201614613
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2201614678
Brakiri Aug 18, 2020 @ 12:31pm 
So you build your warship with multiple layers of armor blocks?
How did you get off the ground? ;)
Are you using combat blocks or the xeno-blocks?
Last edited by Brakiri; Aug 18, 2020 @ 12:31pm
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