Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Empyrion - Galactic Survival

BiGDaDdY Aug 20, 2022 @ 9:34pm
Empyrion just so boring anymore.
The latest patch really drives home how they just seem to keep making the game easier and easier until it is just a real snore fest anymore. I used to build a little base and the drones would attack all the time now you need to take a screen shot of the rare drone siting. You can not even start wars with every faction because as soon as you attack another faction you get better faction with almost all other factions.
Why can we not have the ability to take planets over and whole systems over and then the other races invade and take them back or at least try. We need something it is like once you hit level 25 the game is over you will never get another skill never find a new weapon or item and you can not effect the galaxy in anyway.
I flew into the Zirax home system and nothing attacked me any zirax ship was at least 25k away easy peasy to get to the planet.
I really love the game just wish it was more challenging not just well just hit level 25 nothing else to really do anymore just harvest the same resources over and over and attack bases that will just respawn tomorrow and then I can do it over and over again with nothing ever changing.
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I guess that you want those faction and NPC vessels to become more aggressive?
I have no opinion about that.

But, by my opinion, from now on, you can and you need to find(?) challenge yourself.
Defeat Zirax Empire or win the Silence War, for example.
Last edited by Too lazy to choose a name; Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:36pm
BiGDaDdY Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:43pm 
I just wish they would attack me more and try to take my base and things like that. Even on the planets there should be more than drones that attack you. It would be amazing if they raided bases and took them over like in X com ufo defense.
Last edited by BiGDaDdY; Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:49pm
Bif Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:44pm 
BigDaddy is just saying what every experienced player wants to say. Yeah, great, easy starter planets. Good for new players. Bad for old-timers.

How hard would it be, really, to put in a really tough challenge and lock it behind a challenge. Like you can take on the tough planet once you reach orbit from each of the easy planets.

At the very least, the tough challenge should include several hostile factions that don't become docile when you attack the others. Bring back drones, in fact make the number of drone bases a player input--have a thousand if you want.

Make all the trees those crappy new trees that take forever to chop down. Make food rare. Make it both cold and low O2. Make it cloudy so solar is crap. Put in bad weather and lots of wandering monsters.

That's all I want for now.
Ricat Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:47pm 
have done that its gets a bit boring there is not as much in the way of base attacks by drones there is less of the abandon poi may be i have just played to much
Sorry, my English is not good.
Ignore this post if it exhaust your sanity because of my bad English.

Try to invade Zirax Base in Zirax territory.
Some Zirax Base(on Zirax’s planet) are harder than Abandoned Bunker. (a lot)

Originally posted by Bif:
Maybe, just maybe, maybe you can start from Skillon. set difficulty to hard.
It’s not cold, it’s hot and no O2.
Resource will be still enough but maybe you don’t have enough time to gather resource.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2851941049
From 150 to 148 before "landing".

Or maybe you can try snow moon when difficulty is hard.
I wander that if my commander will starve to death in that situation.
Last edited by Too lazy to choose a name; Aug 20, 2022 @ 11:25pm
Sorry, my English is not good.
Ignore this post if it exhaust your sanity because of my bad English.
Originally posted by BiGDaDdY:
I just wish they would attack me more and try to take my base and things like that. Even on the planets there should be more than drones that attack you. It would be amazing if they raided bases and took them over like in X com ufo defense.
I don’t know. Maybe it will be cool, but I don’t know.
I mean, if base attack is hard when I have T4 SV, T4 HV, T4 BA, and T4 CV,
how can I protect my base when I have only T1 SV and T1 BA ?

Maybe, just maybe, maybe there should be different kind of drone base or other base attacking POI with different kind of base attacking, I don’t know.
Last edited by Too lazy to choose a name; Aug 20, 2022 @ 11:18pm
Bif Aug 20, 2022 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Too lazy to choose a name:
Sorry, my English is not good.
Ignore this post if it exhaust your sanity because of my bad English.
Your English is better than my (insert name of your language here). Guaranteed.

Originally posted by Too lazy to choose a name:
Try to invade Zirax Base in Zirax territory.
Some Zirax Base(on Zirax’s planet) are harder than Abandoned Bunker. (a lot)
So this is good advice. Locating and conquering each faction's homeworld is kind of the end game for experienced players.

Originally posted by Too lazy to choose a name:
Maybe, just maybe, maybe you can start from Skillon. set difficulty to hard.
Or maybe you can try snow moon when difficulty is hard.

I can see you mean well, nameless, but these scenarios are vastly too easy for the likes of BigDaddy. Or even for a scrub like me.

I kind of lost you in the remainder of your posts, hopefully it wasn't too important.
XLjedi Aug 21, 2022 @ 3:56am 
The new starter area is just a stepping stone to the old start area. I do wish though, that Omicron had the option of being different types of planets.

To me, the most interesting thing about the moons is they give you a very valid reason to build a base using wood.
ZomBeGone Aug 21, 2022 @ 6:55am 
Try Reforged Eden scenario. They have better (badder) starting planets with base attacks and PT vessels and some very harsh environments, A much larger and more diverse set of stars planets, and moons.

There are more ore types to mine and use on more advanced technology. Everything is harder and takes longer without feeling grindy.

I think most people who play RE, never play vanilla again.
Amrak Aug 21, 2022 @ 7:06am 
I have watch total war with a couple of my YT'ers. They took on the BoF. Being friends and placing a base on their homeworld, then attacking them. It was war and yet as you say not complete base take over type sadly. But they stayed on the planet and took BoF on. Was killed to many times to count because of the shear #'s of drones present on that planet.
Trying this in RE would ramp up the hardness tremendously. I agree if you are bored try RE, it is well worth it.
japp_02 Aug 21, 2022 @ 7:14am 
If you want I can publish a game start with a Zyrax drone base on Akua, but I didn't add any story bla bla for it, you will have more resistance and drones randomly on the moon. Not sure if this would please a lot of players, so I didn't yet publish it.

For the moment I'm trying to setup a ground war festival between Polaris and Zyrax on Akua by placing POIs very near together and placing some ground troops to see if they engage each other and what commands you need to use in the faction.ecf game file. Whatever, I don't think this would add much fun for the player even if this runs as expected. Faction interaction is very poorly implemented in this game currently. It's about only you and the world...
Last edited by japp_02; Aug 21, 2022 @ 7:25am
Bif Aug 21, 2022 @ 10:43am 
Bearing in mind I'm not the original poster, BigDaddy is:

I will try Reforged Eden, based on recommendations by Amrak and ZomBeGone. At the very least, I am sure that I'll appreciate the creativity and effort that went into it. Thank you guys.

Regarding japp_02's offer to make a starter planet: In order for that to benefit the most people, you'd probably want more information from more people. Maybe run a poll to find out what the bulk of longtime players want. Then make it an official mod "Harder Start j02v1" or some such. I'd for sure play it. Thanks for the offer, japp_02.
Jalore Aug 21, 2022 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Amrak:
I have watch total war with a couple of my YT'ers. They took on the BoF. Being friends and placing a base on their homeworld, then attacking them. It was war and yet as you say not complete base take over type sadly. But they stayed on the planet and took BoF on. Was killed to many times to count because of the shear #'s of drones present on that planet.
Trying this in RE would ramp up the hardness tremendously. I agree if you are bored try RE, it is well worth it.

I've done this myself declare war on bof and other factions after i setup a base on their homeworld. yeah is a lot of drones on the homeworlds and the added danger of a planetary patrol vessel on a homeworld or some of the home world moons.

some of the pv's are easy others quite hard, especially with a bases fixed weapons. watching a pv attack a base is interesting as the pv uses different tactics than fighting a cv, sv. hv have a hard time reaching up to a pv...
Amrak Aug 21, 2022 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Bif:
Bearing in mind I'm not the original poster, BigDaddy is:

I will try Reforged Eden, based on recommendations by Amrak and ZomBeGone. At the very least, I am sure that I'll appreciate the creativity and effort that went into it. Thank you guys.

Regarding japp_02's offer to make a starter planet: In order for that to benefit the most people, you'd probably want more information from more people. Maybe run a poll to find out what the bulk of longtime players want. Then make it an official mod "Harder Start j02v1" or some such. I'd for sure play it. Thanks for the offer, japp_02.

The only time I play vanilla now is when a major update drops. ! to play any new missions and see changes and 2 well because RE usually needs updated too so have a week or 2 to kill waiting. It is true when you play RE it is hard to go back to vanilla.
I played Project Eden this way and just got into RE this last year.
I will say that I believe new players should gradually move to RE by playing Project Eden first. It has a lot to offer by enhancing the vanilla game but not kicking you in the teeth right off the bat. ;)
Reforged Eden is a combination of Project Eden and Reforged Galaxy for any who did not know.
BiGDaDdY Aug 21, 2022 @ 8:24pm 
Why can't the enemy who ever they are attack with sv's and hover crafts on the planet. Also anyone that ever playes X com ufo defense knows how the enemy can attack a base and enter it and you have to defend it or lose the base that would be amazing here. Also what happened to the reinforcements that used to land and attack you when you attacked another factions base? Oddly enough the largest change I have seen are the green bugs on the planets wow are they faster and tougher than before when you first start. Why can they not make the other factions tougher and aggressive. And there are the options to make the game easier for people that want easier but I really do not know how much easier they can make it the game is close to being a snore fest now days as far as fighting goes. I have only played one mod that actually makes the game crazy hard and kinda went over board.
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