Xbox Gamepad and the game

[whiskyru]

Hello! I play the game on a gamepad - it's convenient. But some functions are not available or do not work. I can’t take the tent back. Writtenol click on D-pad down+A but nothing happens. And also there is no way to call a drone (аor the keyboard, this is F5), no combination for gamepad.

Please fix it or suggest a solution.

[dennybasham]

I am having the SAME issue with a PS4 controller using Ds4 Windows via Steam Big Picture and connected on Blue Tooth. AKA - Dpad Down + A does NOTHING. Dpad Down does work as Shift/Alt in some instances (jet pack, moving items, flashlight on/off) but with the A button it does not work. This is a KNOWN issue already reported on Empyrion online and acknowledge as a defect back in July 2020. What is the ETA for a fix? I just purchased this game and love it but having to use the keyboard for this is a hassle even though I will probably just use the mouse for most inventory management. Link to Empyrion online ack issue here: https://empyriononline.com/threads/d-pad-down-a-doesnt-pick-up-placed-items-7126.94451/

ADMINS - what is the ETA for a fix as this is a Known Issue for several months. Thx.

[dennybasham]

And crickets ensue. C'mon folks what does it take for an admin to respond to this in a fully released game? What is the ETA for a FIX and why has a KNOWN issue not been corrected since August? This seems like a pretty trivial defect to correct unless I am missing something.

[Kandar1933]

Empyrion only has partial gamepad support, not full. Some stuff just has to be done with kb/m

[ChumSickle]

Perhaps discuss this on the official forums and file it as a bug report. Has a much better chance of anyone seeing it that can actually possibly do something about it.

[piddlefoot]

There are not enough buttons combinations to do it, you still need a keyboard with pretty much any joystick type.

[dennybasham]

I have NO problem using KB and Mouse for inventory mgt, etc but this is actually listed on the screen as working and it doesn't. As per above, I posted the link to a post on Empyrion Online where the defect/bug was acknowledged by the Devs as an issue back in August and this still hasn't been fixed. I play plenty of games like 7 Days and Subsistence where I use the mouse and KB occasionally but since this is already a known issue that has been LOGGED I am simply asking what an ETA is for a fix. Not unreasonable. I also mentioned this on Discord and got no where. I assume EmpyrionOnline.com is the official forum but is there somewhere else I should be asking? Just trying to bubble this up to the Devs to make sure it is still on their radar. This certainly isn't game breaking or anything but it is slightly annoying.

[piddlefoot]

Im not sure mate sorry, its hard to say when any particular bug will be addressed, we dont find out until they start working on them either so.
It will show up in Experimental first when they do, best place to check if your interested.

[dennybasham]

Originally posted by piddlefoot:

Im not sure mate sorry, its hard to say when any particular bug will be addressed, we dont find out until they start working on them either so.
It will show up in Experimental first when they do, best place to check if your interested.

Thanks piddlefoot. :)

[Dradonis]

Have you actually set the profile for empyrion to whatever controller you're using and not left it at default in Ds4 Windows, this got the down d-pad working for me, the only issue i have is L3 for sprint, got everything else working fine

[I am Goot]

You have been able to use a Gamepad for a long time, the issues with the gamepad were in place the day they implemented it as an option. What Piddlefoot is unable to tell you, being a Eleon Moderator, is that Eleon have had approximately 4+ years to address these issues, and have chosen NOT TO.

You need to stop whining and learn to use Keyboard and Mouse, like everyone else. It might be 'convenient' to use a gamepad, but ultimately this is a game designed for Keyboard and Mouse. With respect, take the hint

[Tarc Novar]

Originally posted by I am Goot:

You have been able to use a Gamepad for a long time, the issues with the gamepad were in place the day they implemented it as an option. What Piddlefoot is unable to tell you, being a Eleon Moderator, is that Eleon have had approximately 4+ years to address these issues, and have chosen NOT TO.

You need to stop whining and learn to use Keyboard and Mouse, like everyone else. It might be 'convenient' to use a gamepad, but ultimately this is a game designed for Keyboard and Mouse. With respect, take the hint

With respect, the store page lists this game as having partial controller support.

Originally posted by Dradonis:

Have you actually set the profile for empyrion to whatever controller you're using and not left it at default in Ds4 Windows, this got the down d-pad working for me, the only issue i have is L3 for sprint, got everything else working fine

Thread necro not needed.

[TwitchyJ]

Originally posted by I am Goot:

You have been able to use a Gamepad for a long time, the issues with the gamepad were in place the day they implemented it as an option. What Piddlefoot is unable to tell you, being a Eleon Moderator, is that Eleon have had approximately 4+ years to address these issues, and have chosen NOT TO.

You need to stop whining and learn to use Keyboard and Mouse, like everyone else. It might be 'convenient' to use a gamepad, but ultimately this is a game designed for Keyboard and Mouse. With respect, take the hint

They haven't chosen to simply not work on it, they just have higher priorities still.

It WILL be worked on, ONCE they are ready to do so.
They have been very upfront since day 1 that they only have partial controller support currently and it will remain that way for the foreseeable future until they are ready for it.

They are a team of like 6 people....
They are doing what they can when they can.

[Schinken]

Originally posted by piddlefoot:

There are not enough buttons combinations to do it, you still need a keyboard with pretty much any joystick type.

This is just a lie. I am sorry to have so clear, but it is.
I made a controller Profile by myself and get every Single function playable. On a xbox 360 Controller.

I made a documentation too, so if anybody want Real Controller Support, its here on steam:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/383120/discussions/0/4299250686365044871/

And about the time... I have made it in 2 days.

[piddlefoot]

Its not a lie and there are no default layouts that do it either mate, the simple fact is its mathematical, the more buttons you have the more combinations you can create, on a controller you are very limited for the amount of buttons , direct inputs, not press one button then another two to make something happen, 1 button 1 function, controllers have no chance against that, and it just a matter of time until you run into a game you cant even program your controller for because some games have dozens and dozens of controls or actionable buttons.... What do they do for complex games to make them compatible with consoles, and console controllers, oh they dumb them down....... Take out features etc.
That alone should be enough for anyone to figure it out really.
A thrustmaster will eat that thumbjoy in games like DCS and give you more direct control buttons to access weapons accessories, instantly, without combinations of buttons for one function.......
A mouse and keyboard, has literally hundreds of extra possible commands if they do to it what you did to your controller and program it.........Your not even in the same ball park at this stage.
Then there are specific PC gamer keyboards and combinations, almost all of them have more possible combinations that a lousy X-box or Sonny thumbstick controller.....

These controllers, dont get me wrong are good for specific games, just like EVERY other type out there, be it keyboard and mouse or gaming PC super uber set up whatever, they all have something they are best at, but them controllers are NOT best for massive combinations of commendable buttons that you need in an instant.
And they are not the best all-rounder.
They are however the most promoted, advertised, made on mass, and the laziest...
Only people that have not used many other systems usually consider these type controllers the best or possible of everything ,talking them up like they are the best, when really they are not, in my experience.

Even a steering wheel and pedal has more potential combinations......
Its all mathematical.

If you have 10 buttons, your max number of combinations is X.
If you have 85 buttons, { keyboard average } your max number of combinations is XXXXXXXXXXXXXX....
Follow, its pretty simple really.


So on another note, good job on setting one up specifically for Empyrion, that is one of there huge disadvantages, as explained above, but you have made it easy for people in Empyrion to do, so thats a great thing, and Im sure many folks on here will appreciate that.

I still dont agree controllers are better, but each to there own.

[Schinken]

Yeah, there are naturally more combinations on a keyboard.

And yes, there are Games that cant be playee with Controller. Almost Strategy like EU4 or Total War. But not Empyrion.

I am not on a side, i use Controller, keyboard, Joystick. Never said Controller is superior, so why you argue against something i didnt say?

But your words was: "There are not enough buttons to do it (it= making empyrion playable with Controller)" .
And thats not true, what i proofed, because i did that, there are enough Buttons (not more, but enough). And not just me, there are several other Controller Setups in steam. But i dont know how good they work.

Yeah you are also right, this is not a 1:1 one key-one Button configuration. But its not that "hold this button and then another" - thing you described.
A few(!) buttons simple have more than one trigger. Normal tap, doubletap and hold button.
And for menus with cursor its simple a complete other configuration because there are so many unused keys.
Thats it and works fine. I had enough Buttons to bind the leaderboard, ALT-O, CTRL-F (yes, you still cant Pick up things with controller, its known for several years and Yeah, it has only partially Controller Support but whats with message Support? Why the game still tells me to use d-pad down+A if everybody knows thas not working?). So just for the basic things I need a maximum of 4 double binded buttons.

But aside from that, whats the matter with bindings like with the shift modifier? The game uses this mechanics still. Hell, the game have a radial menu what can solve every double binding problems. Why not saving blueprints, open leaderboard or use drone though the radial menu?One tab more in the menu and after it, a new radial menu would not be the best resolve, but still will be a resolve. And no one can tell me thats weeks of work. It would be days. This is 10 times more needed than any unimmersive christmas decorations on sanctuary.


At least, sorry. I dont believe you are telling lies unpourpose. I meant just its not true, that there arent enough Buttons. But now i believe you are not deep enough in the matter of Controller binding.

Sorry for my english too, hope its clear enough.