Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Traders
In one of the other discussion titled "Gold" I asked where could I find large quantities of it. Traders were suggested to me.

1. Where can I find traders (I haven't found any in my home system "Yet", only a repair station).
2.What do they like to trade for? How can I get that resource in large quantities at lvl 16?
3. If they like credits, where can I get some easily to start out with because I need the gold for credits and other stuff.
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djinnxy Jul 4, 2020 @ 6:34am 
You sure there aren't any in your starter system? I didn't know that was a thing. It will be a POL area and it's one of the poi's that can be in those areas on planet. In space it will be one of the question marks that you need to use the sensor to discover or get close enough to.

They trade for various things. Each one has multiple shops that each deal in specific groups of items. After that it's random what specific item will be bought and sold at the shop.

All those extra weapons and items you won't use from raiding POI are what you are mostly looking to sell. If you have a surplus of a particular ingot you can sell those too. I suppose you could be a farmer and sell food though I don't know that that's the most efficient way to earn in game unless there's a government subsidy program with the POL that I don't know about.

Edit: Note that you'll have to have good relations with the faction to trade. That's easy though if you wrecked a couple Zirax bases to get stuff to sell.
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DaelaamCrafter Jul 4, 2020 @ 7:28am 
Mostly a Pol area (mining stations, distillaries etc). I found a pir (pirate?) hidden base where I could give credits to repair my ship, refuel, reoxygenate, and refill my pentaxid (and maybe resupply my ammo not sure tho). I'm neutral with everybody except Zirax and Talon who are unfriendly.
seven Jul 4, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Trader stations have to be there for the missions to work. I found the one in orbit was at the outer reaches of the solar system so you may not have gotten close enough to find it. The one in orbit has more variety, and will likely be the place with the mining trader where you can buy gold.

I'd visit the traders and see which ones are there and what they buy. None of them will buy profitable things in large quantities, except the mining trader who can buy quite a few ingots.
DaelaamCrafter Jul 4, 2020 @ 7:41am 
Will the missions raise my standing with them? In addition, what level of friendliness do I need to have with them to accept the mission? Friendly? Neutral? Honored? Something Else?
seven Jul 4, 2020 @ 7:55am 
You know, I'm not sure about reputation level and trading, or missions. If you look at the reputation page it says you need to be friendly to trade, but I was trading with both Polaris and Talon while still neutral. I was not however able to use Station Services at the Polaris settlement. The Station Services page would come up but I couldn't change the amount I wanted to buy to more than zero. There are missions that you can do at neutral or better that will improve reputation, and give you some credits or other rewards.
DaelaamCrafter Jul 4, 2020 @ 7:59am 
Thanks, this helps a lot.
shdwdrvr83 Jul 4, 2020 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by DaelaamCrafter:
Mostly a Pol area (mining stations, distillaries etc). I found a pir (pirate?) hidden base where I could give credits to repair my ship, refuel, reoxygenate, and refill my pentaxid (and maybe resupply my ammo not sure tho). I'm neutral with everybody except Zirax and Talon who are unfriendly.

Note, that 'hidden base' is guaranteed to be in your starting system of a normal game, it's part of story chapter 3.


Originally posted by seven:
You know, I'm not sure about reputation level and trading, or missions. If you look at the reputation page it says you need to be friendly to trade, but I was trading with both Polaris and Talon while still neutral. I was not however able to use Station Services at the Polaris settlement. The Station Services page would come up but I couldn't change the amount I wanted to buy to more than zero. There are missions that you can do at neutral or better that will improve reputation, and give you some credits or other rewards.

Game version 12.2 lowered the trading reputation requirement to neutral so that we can trade easier with more factions.



Originally posted by DaelaamCrafter:
1. Where can I find traders (I haven't found any in my home system "Yet", only a repair station).
2.What do they like to trade for? How can I get that resource in large quantities at lvl 16?
3. If they like credits, where can I get some easily to start out with because I need the gold for credits and other stuff.

1. On a regular start (not using a modded game, rebuild, or specifically hard start) there should be a Polaris trading station on the surface of your starter planet, as well as another one in orbit.

2. As mentioned previously, the most effective things to sell are extra weapons. Once you've got a couple decent weapons and a decent suit of armor, prioritize raiding an 'Abandoned' POI, or completing chapter 5 of the story (not necessarily requiring you to do the ones before it). These large POIs don't have any major external defenses, so you can get to/into them pretty easily. There's a lot of combat inside, but you'll find more weapons/armor/armor mods/multitools etc than you'll probably ever need. Keep a few that you like, and start liquidating the rest to the traders. Multitools especially - They never break so once you find a T2 Multitool, (and maybe one backup in case you die somewhere unreachable) all the rest you ever find are worthless to you but trade for a good amount.
Then, from the traders you can buy some things at a great cost compared to the pain of making them, particularly the higher-end medical kits, armor mods or plants you may not have found, and eventually the high-end CPU materials.

3. You can find credits or gold coins randomly in POIs, and you can get either of them for completing easy faction missions. If you really want to cheese some of them quickly, there are a couple of missions that only require you to pick up an item. There's one for Polaris that only requires picking up prometheum ore, and one for Talon that only requires picking up wood logs. If you have either of these in your base, you can activate the mission, drop some on the ground, and just pick them back up to complete the mission. The missions have a cool-down timer so you can't do it over and over. That said though, you'll get more credits faster by just selling your extra stuff.

This question was all conditional on your need to find gold originally. What do you actually need it for? Just to get started trading, or for crafting something?
There are only a couple items that Gold is actually used in producing; as far as I know it's only the EVA armor mod and the high-end CPU materials (matrixes/bridges). You can buy either of these from traders as well. There should also be a very small gold deposit on the starter world (enough to craft the EVA mod which you'll need in space).
Once you're capable of interstellar travel, you'll find gold in asteroids as well, which you can mine thousands of units from. Once you're up to the point of asteroid mining, you shouldn't have to worry about scarcity of any particular resources again, it's just a matter of spending the time getting to them.
DaelaamCrafter Jul 4, 2020 @ 8:42am 
Mostly High end CPU, an EVA mod, and coins. Any POI's I should stay away from? I have already fallen into an ancient temple and was unable to escape. BTW, is there a way to escape those? Thanks
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