Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Empyrion - Galactic Survival

VulcanTourist (Banned) Mar 20, 2019 @ 9:26am
Game seeds and planet size
How does planet size affect the terrain generation result of game seeds?
Last edited by VulcanTourist; Mar 20, 2019 @ 12:31pm
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Docsprock Mar 20, 2019 @ 12:09pm 
POIs are pretty sparse on Very Large planets. I make changes to the yaml file to get more stuff.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1670379635
VulcanTourist (Banned) Mar 20, 2019 @ 12:31pm 
I'm curious how the planet size affects terrain generation produced by a particular seed, not the POIs. I doubt the difference is as simple as a scaled-up or -down version of the same random features.
lucyrocketdog Mar 20, 2019 @ 12:33pm 
The planet size makes a huge difference in the look of the planet. I just compared seed 201067 in the medium and the large planet versions and it didn't look like the same planet.
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VulcanTourist (Banned) Mar 20, 2019 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by lucyrocketdog:
The planet size makes a huge difference in the look of the planet. I just compared seed 201067 in the medium and the large planet versions and it didn't look like the same planet.
The differences were obvious even in the map view, then?
lucyrocketdog Mar 20, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
Both these screenshots are from the same seed, but the upper one is from a medium planet and the lower one is from a large planet.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688634295

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688634477

There was a lot more water on the small planet.
Last edited by lucyrocketdog; Mar 20, 2019 @ 2:56pm
rphillips1986 Mar 20, 2019 @ 3:26pm 
It seems like the terrain is generally the same. Water will be in about the same spot, a high mountain peak, open plains, things are just adjusted to fit.
VulcanTourist (Banned) Mar 20, 2019 @ 3:31pm 
I'm particularly wondering how similar the terrain features are planet-wide. Are close to identical forms visible in both? It would make sense that there appeared to be more water on the smaller planet if an absolute value was used instead of a proportional one.

I want to explore this when it's time for a new game.

Off my own topic somewhat, I'm impressed by the variety of forms I see now. Just minutes ago I came across a deep winding chasm, of the sort you might see in a ship or aircraft chase scene. The biome transitions are quite unexpected now; I saw a tiny beach biome barely big enough to fit an SV tucked away down in a deep depression in a mountain range.
Last edited by VulcanTourist; Mar 20, 2019 @ 3:35pm
rphillips1986 Mar 20, 2019 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by VulcanTourist:
I'm particularly wondering how similar the terrain features are planet-wide. Are close to identical forms visible in both? It would make sense that there appeared to be more water on the smaller planet if an absolute value was used instead of a proportional one.

I want to explore this when it's time for a new game.
Similar-ish in my testing.

There was one particular mountain range on the large planet which I was able to find on Medium and small planets. It was in pretty much the same spot for each planet size. On all planets it was almost completely verticle on one side. The number of peaks, spacing of those peaks, and overall size of that particular range was different though.
lucyrocketdog Mar 20, 2019 @ 4:40pm 
I was interested in checking it out too. Here's what i found:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688693573
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688694000
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688693772
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688694227
As a player starting each game, I felt like the planets were a lot "different".
I'm going to see if I can line up the global maps better, I think they are taken from different areas.
Last edited by lucyrocketdog; Mar 20, 2019 @ 4:43pm
ravien_ff (Banned) Mar 20, 2019 @ 10:06pm 
You can preview the same planet with different sizes or seeds in the SSG.
GlassDeviant Mar 20, 2019 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Docsprock:
POIs are pretty sparse on Very Large planets. I make changes to the yaml file to get more stuff.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1670379635

Gave you got that yaml file? I probably won't actually use it directly, but instead as a reference for a working one (it's so easy to break a yaml file).
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