Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Empyrion - Galactic Survival

Exanthos Oct 6, 2018 @ 7:21pm
Dyson sphere.
I'd love it if the devs made a dyson sphere POI around a planet....

Has anyone tried making one around a planet? I know it'd probably take a long time, even with mods, but it'd be a cool idea.
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Master Queef Oct 6, 2018 @ 7:25pm 
Thats not what a dyson sphere is...am I wrong? Dysons arent theoretically meant to encompass a planet? They're meant for stars not planets.
Originally posted by Dildo Baggins:
Thats not what a dyson sphere is...am I wrong? Dysons arent theoretically meant to encompass a planet? They're meant for stars not planets.
They can be both, but yes they typically encompass a sun and at least 1 planet
Master Queef Oct 6, 2018 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by JDaremo Fireheart:
Originally posted by Dildo Baggins:
Thats not what a dyson sphere is...am I wrong? Dysons arent theoretically meant to encompass a planet? They're meant for stars not planets.
They can be both, but yes they typically encompass a sun and at least 1 planet
Thats no longer a dyson sphere then, Dyson spheres are meant to capture the massive ammounts of power that stars output, Planet dysons make no sense.
ravien_ff Oct 7, 2018 @ 12:01am 
Dyson spheres surround a star.

There is a limit to the size of bases and there's no way you could surround a planet with a sphere.
Sigh-Phi-Guy Oct 7, 2018 @ 1:32am 
Originally posted by ravien_ff:
Dyson spheres surround a star.

There is a limit to the size of bases and there's no way you could surround a planet with a sphere.
well if you could, at least there would be a reason for the solar panels not working.
piddlefoot Oct 7, 2018 @ 11:24am 
Is this a joke ?

Ravien covered it anyhoo.



But the consept is fascinating.

I dont recon this is even possible to build in the real world, as an engineer I just see so many catastrophic failures in even trying to build such a device in real life.
Not likely we will ever have the tech or savy as a species to actually go out and do this, ever.

Its more of a hypothesis really when talking about the actual thing.

Although such megastructures may be theoretically possible, all plans to build a fixed-in-place Dyson sphere are currently far beyond humanity's engineering capacity. The number of craft required to obtain, transmit, and maintain a complete Dyson sphere far exceeds present-day industrial capabilities. George Dvorsky has advocated use of self-replicating robots to overcome this limitation in the relatively near term.
It completely ignores the problems of spacetime pushing on the object and the effect a close planet can have, these are not small problems to an engineer, they are catastrophic failures waiting to happen, structures at such a HUGE scale also have a HUGE overall REST MASS and when that structure is moved in anyway there will be ripple effects across a very large area to disipate that energy.
Now take that structure and spin it with the stars rotation, and you open a can of worms of other problems relating to mass and structural integrity, the idea Aliens have built these things to me seems rather ignorant of the physics problems ALL species in this Universe have and thats if we are not alone, so far, we are the ONLY intelligent species in the known Universe.

The whole topic is fascinating though !

Something thats theoretically possible just means theres no laws in nature to specifically stop it from happening, it doesnt actually make it a scientific theory though, so its still really nothing more than an hypothesis.

The era in which this was thought up, was one where the people of the day believed there were martians on Mars, War of the Worlds music broadcast caused some panic, Humans really had very little understanding of space, spacetime [gravity] and the sheer scale of space, but the electronic age has changed that forever, with things like Hubble, how many modern day scientists do you see pushing for things like a Dison Sphere.

Heres an interesting read about the War of the Worlds mob and the reasons things happened the way they did back then strikes me as just what they do today, promoting there product with a marketing stunt, creating something from nothing !

In the Orson Welles broadcast, 1938 war of the worlds , part of the hoax involved the town of Grover’s Mill, near Princeton in New Jersey, being taken over by aliens. Welles and scriptwriter Howard E Koch (who went on to co-write the film Casablanca) skillfully ratcheted up the tension with fake radio reports from the US infantry and air force. The true extent of the panic seems to have been that a small band of Grover's Mill locals, believing the town's water tower on Grover's Mill Road had been turned into a “giant Martian war machine”, fired guns filled with buckshot in an attack on the water tower. In 1998, residents held a tongue-in-cheek "Martian Ball" to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the incident.

Xango2000 Oct 8, 2018 @ 6:59am 
In Empyrion you could, theoretically, place enough bases in orbit to completely occlude a planet but this would require a supercomputer configured as a server so it would be entirely impractical.

In reality, the only way to realistically create a Dyson sphere would be to use something like "hard light holograms" rather than matter, because it would take several billion billion planet's worth of matter just to make the shell. If you want humans to be able to live on it then it would have to have a radius between Venus and Mars (see Goldilocks Zone). The circumference would be in the range of 628,000,000 miles.
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Date Posted: Oct 6, 2018 @ 7:21pm
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