Players behaviour

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A couple weeks ago I've started playing this game again after a long break (a year or so). I play survs, around 900 hours playtime. Can someone explain to me one thing: what happened to players? The behaviour that was considered toxic earlier is now normal. Survivors give up since the first couple of minutes, sometimes they start standing in the corner of the map just to wait until everyone is dead or self-unhook themselves to die. Every (EVERY) killer became a tunneler or camper. This is literally no fun. I'm in the game right now and it's been 10ish games without a single escape or just non-toxic match. I'm honestly very curious what lead to this, this game became unplayable. Am I so unlucky to being matched with this kind of people (I've never been banned or smth, I'm not toxic) or is this tHe NeW mEtA???
Thanks.

[Infrasound]

Yeah its a bit wierd i come and go everynow and then and im just chasing achs at this point.

Toxic became normal. As for tunnelling its efficient to get to 3v1 as fast as possible now so a lot of content creators are doing it, therefor everyone seems to be doing it.

[Star Taker]

its kinda sad, but yeah even tho its very arugable, it feels like the game went into a competetive route from casual and unsportsmanlike behaviour is normal, i just chilled out as Pig this morning and hooked a p100 mikaela first time at 2 gens, she just killed herself on hook, its kinda sad cuz the other players were pretty chilled out and we all said gg

[Kaereste]

I played for 8 hrs today.. not a word of a lie, I can count on one hand how many games where someone in my team didn't kill themselves or rage quit LD. Almost every single game was 1v3 and a couple times even 1v2. One game all 3 quit. Killer and I at the end were kinda stunned and he thanked me for sticking around lol. But even once down to 2v1 or 3v1 the killers still tunnel and camp, aiming for a "now" 3k or whatnot. I've actually had several friends quit the game or drop down to less than an hour a week. It's pretty sad really.

[Gabriel Angelos]

SBMM happened. Why skill based matchmaking was needed in this game beats me? We did years without it and the chill people could hang out at green ranks or lower.

And also your rating is based purely on escapes as survivor and kills as killer. So people do anything to achieve that, its not the players, its the system in place by the devs.

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Originally posted by Mumm-Ra:

SBMM happened. Why skill based matchmaking was needed in this game beats me? We did years without it and the chill people could hang out at green ranks or lower.

And also your rating is based purely on escapes as survivor and kills as killer. So people do anything to achieve that, its not the players, its the system in place by the devs.

I guess I missed something here. I always thought that it doesn't matter if you escaped or not bc you still get rating points if you were just good at some aspects of the match.

And also, what is SBMM? (im really clueless)

[Gabriel Angelos]

Originally posted by kaia:

Originally posted by Mumm-Ra:

SBMM happened. Why skill based matchmaking was needed in this game beats me? We did years without it and the chill people could hang out at green ranks or lower.

And also your rating is based purely on escapes as survivor and kills as killer. So people do anything to achieve that, its not the players, its the system in place by the devs.

I guess I missed something here. I always thought that it doesn't matter if you escaped or not bc you still get rating points if you were just good at some aspects of the match.

And also, what is SBMM? (im really clueless)

Skill Based Match Making. So just like other comp games you get queued up with those of " equal skill".

And no as survivor you can do gens, unhook, heal, maybe run the killer for 3 gens BUT if you dont escape that wasnt a skilled play and you lose rating.

Killers tunnel to secure kills as thats also all that matters. Everyone seems to enjoy chases but the game does its best to discourage that. Why go for others when you can secure a kill ? You only need 2 to draw according to the system in place.

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Originally posted by Mumm-Ra:

Originally posted by kaia:

I guess I missed something here. I always thought that it doesn't matter if you escaped or not bc you still get rating points if you were just good at some aspects of the match.

And also, what is SBMM? (im really clueless)

Skill Based Match Making. So just like other comp games you get queued up with those of " equal skill".

And no as survivor you can do gens, unhook, heal, maybe run the killer for 3 gens BUT if you dont escape that wasnt a skilled play and you lose rating.

Killers tunnel to secure kills as thats also all that matters. Everyone seems to enjoy chases but the game does its best to discourage that. Why go for others when you can secure a kill ? You only need 2 to draw according to the system in place.

Wow. If it's true, the game is now even more messed up for me. Just wow.

[Yaorenmao]

Unfortunately, it is so. And because of that joke of 'skill based' (ha ha) matchmaking system, the rounds are so damn painful for everyone involved (survivors as well as killers).

On top of that, there are also many killers who are obviously so overwhelmed at fighting worthy survivors that they us an asocial trick. These kind of killer players can apparently only win if they play against 'unsuspecting newbs'.
They achieve this by starting a game in droves at night as an AFK killer, thereby forcing the survivors in a totally boring round of only repairing gens.
Because the survivors all escape, increases the survivor's matchmaking rank. Which means that in future games they will get killers that are way too strong and too experienced for them.
And at the same time, the killer's matchmaking rank drops because he didn't make a single kill this round. As a result, the killer soon gets even easier and even less experienced survivors as 'easy victims'.

And exactly this many AFK Players at night, as well as the resulting totally unbalanced matches, destroy the whole game!

The matchmaking system is just totally broken and junk. It would have to calculate the player's skill based on much smarter parameters. And it should automatically detect and penalize AFK players.
For both, the developers are either too lazy, too stupid, or they simply don't care how much the players suffer from it. Either way, it's a known problem (the DpD support has even confirmed it to me) and nothing is being done about it.


And the only thing we could do is if the killers stop starting AFK rounds. And/or the survivors record a video of each AFK killer and send it to the DpD support. Because that's the only way the DpD support will punish this AFK killer.
I do my part, record about 5 videos every night I play...
But that's no use unless many more survivors help out. But instead the survivors are stupid and walk out of the gate :-( ...if they at least would let the timer run out and die like that at the end. So that her own MMR doesn't go up and the killer's MMR doesn't go down...

[skynd-sg]

The "DbD experience" was always extreme: Sometimes it's just annoying and even questionable why you actually booted the game. On the other hand: When something positive happens, it is addictive. So everyone is chasing for that positive experience (whatever that might be) and even if it doesn't work out: At least you can level-up your chars with BPS. But imo the extremes got even wider. Now you have to expect EVERY SINGLE MATCH to be supersweat (in comparison: in games where a "comp mode" is the people don't play that sweaty) and the "give up" ratio is much higher nowadays.

Idk; the community was/is also extreme so the dev's have actually no idea how to balance it right. And here you have it.

It might sound strange: But maybe ppl don't actually care about BPS anymore, so the limit to just quit the game is much lower now.

Edit: Addendum: Since the MMR is solo-based it is actually no wonder why survivor players got selfish. I mean: It actually rewards you for playing like that.

[Power_Bert]

Your MMR has probably sunk down in the meantime. The first couple of hours are all like that before you are getting matched with "real" players.
And yes you are right its a bad experience...

[LittleEtherKitty]

As a killer main, forcing someone out of the game asap is nearly required, in upper mmr, but toxic behavior has mostly gone down, but when you come across it, it's generally more intense.