Killers should be able to see the wiggle progress bar.

[Red Luster YT]

With both flip flop and especially break out around, killers need to be able to see the wiggle meter. This problem will only become considerably worse once the sabo buff comes out. Seriously though, who thought breakout was a good idea?

[Just Hitting My Stride]

I swear you already made a post like this a few weeks ago.

[Red Luster YT]

Originally posted by Just Hitting My Stride:

I swear you already made a post like this a few weeks ago.

I actually haven't, surprisingly.

[Shifterplay]

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

With both flip flop and especially break out around, killers need to be able to see the wiggle meter. This problem will only become considerably worse once the sabo buff comes out. Seriously though, who thought breakout was a good idea?

You approximately know when surv is going to wiggle out. There is also little bit of risk, you can go to the closest hook or gamble by going to much better position.

If you know how much and how fast it progresses, there is no game.

[Инокентий Балкон]

Learn to feel this wiggle bar, what else can I say for u?

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

Seriously though, who thought breakout was a good idea?

May I ask you how often do you see Breakout in your matches and how many times a survivor actually wiggled out because of it? Cos it seems like you're exaggerating a bit.

[Red Luster YT]

Originally posted by Shifterplay:

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

With both flip flop and especially break out around, killers need to be able to see the wiggle meter. This problem will only become considerably worse once the sabo buff comes out. Seriously though, who thought breakout was a good idea?

You approximately know when surv is going to wiggle out. There is also little bit of risk, you can go to the closest hook or gamble by going to much better position.

If you know how much and how fast it progresses, there is no game.

How so? It doesn't break the game at all, in fact I never understood why it was never a feature to begin with aside from screwing killers over even more.

[Red Luster YT]

Originally posted by ALilBitSpicy:

Learn to feel this wiggle bar, what else can I say for u?

Ah yes, I will feel the wiggle bar. Feeeeeel it...
...
Oh, wait, there's no way in knowing how much progress there is on it, because you won't even know someone has breakout or flipflop until the end of the game.

[Red Luster YT]

Originally posted by Father Servo:

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

Seriously though, who thought breakout was a good idea?

May I ask you how often do you see Breakout in your matches and how many times a survivor actually wiggled out because of it? Cos it seems like you're exaggerating a bit.

Probably way more than I know, I didn't start looking for the perk until recently when I noticed two survivors using it at the same time and saboing hooks. And again, if it's a pain now, just wait until the sabo buff goes through. Survivors wiggling off will become common place.

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

Originally posted by Father Servo:

May I ask you how often do you see Breakout in your matches and how many times a survivor actually wiggled out because of it? Cos it seems like you're exaggerating a bit.

Probably way more than I know, I didn't start looking for the perk until recently when I noticed two survivors using it at the same time and saboing hooks. And again, if it's a pain now, just wait until the sabo buff goes through. Survivors wiggling off will become common place.

Well, I'm always checking out perks that my teammates run out of pure curiosity and I can say that Breakout is extremely rare. Even among SWF groups Breakout is not common (back when I was still playing killer). It is more of a meme perk if I'm being honest. Plus, saboing makes it useless, because you will wiggle out anyway most of the time.

Breakout actually benefits the killer in a way. That one person running it will always try to bodyblock you and stuff, which means he's not doing gens. Less people on gens - more chances for the killer to snowball.

[Инокентий Балкон]

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

Originally posted by Father Servo:

May I ask you how often do you see Breakout in your matches and how many times a survivor actually wiggled out because of it? Cos it seems like you're exaggerating a bit.

Probably way more than I know, I didn't start looking for the perk until recently when I noticed two survivors using it at the same time and saboing hooks. And again, if it's a pain now, just wait until the sabo buff goes through. Survivors wiggling off will become common place.

Bruh man, u serious? If someone is running nerby while u carry another surv = break out; just hit this person surprisingly. And I didn't really see anyone uses flip flop. Its only Ashes-begginers, and u don't have to wait until the end of the game. You can even slug, but JUST USE NEARBY HOOKS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you.

[Tsulan]

I agree. With perks like Agitation, Iron Grip and Mad Grit it would be useful to see how far the progress is.
I mean, survivors get all the information of perks or addons that affect them at all times. Yet the killers can´t see a simple progress bar.

[MJ]

Honestly all you need is for an icon that a survivor has breakout, similar to how the killer gets an icon for, that one kate perk I dont care enough to remember what it is

[Red Luster YT]

Originally posted by ALilBitSpicy:

Originally posted by Red Luster YT:

Probably way more than I know, I didn't start looking for the perk until recently when I noticed two survivors using it at the same time and saboing hooks. And again, if it's a pain now, just wait until the sabo buff goes through. Survivors wiggling off will become common place.

Bruh man, u serious? If someone is running nerby while u carry another surv = break out; just hit this person surprisingly. And I didn't really see anyone uses flip flop. Its only Ashes-begginers, and u don't have to wait until the end of the game. You can even slug, but JUST USE NEARBY HOOKS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you.

Just hit them. Yeah. It's not like when carrying a survivor your movement speed is 92%. It's also not like breakout gives the user a 7% movement speed increase either. It's also not like you can't lunge when carrying a survivor, meaning you have to be basically on top of someone to hit them.

But yeah, survivors always go down with a hook nearby. Also, when a survivor is sacrificed, the hook they're on isn't destroyed. Nah. Swf can't use toolboxes to 99 a hook either. Or just bodyblock with one survivor using breakout, saving maybe a healthstate or two by getting them to wiggle off faster. Nah.

Also, slug? Yeah it's not like there's a commonly run perk to counter that either...
The ignorance is so thick here you could cut it with a knife, put in on a sandwich and call it a hearty meal.