What does the Tinkerer do on Nurse?

[AshernFive]

Does it affect the charge speed of her normal blink? I was thinking about making some kind of 1-blink super charge. Using tremendous charge + considerate blink speed. Would give some side effects plus remove myself down to 1 blink, but just wanted to try something. Those two add-ons kind of reduce eachother though "slightly," so it takes the tremendous/considerable down a peg. What would Tinkerer do if I equipped it on the Nurse exactly?

[Otherwise Occupied]

Which addons say "affected by tinkerer"?

[AshernFive]

Let's see. None of the purple add-ons have it, sadly. Green Considerable speed, does... Well, I see your point. But does Tinkerer affect the default blink in any way?

[Otherwise Occupied]

It'll affect the one thing all the addons that say tinkerer have in common. It's usually a charge/recovery time thing. I don't know what the nurse has that is effected by tinkerer, but if you post the text of the addons affected by tinkerer in this thread I'm sure we could figure it out by process of elimination!

[AshernFive]

"Spasmodic Breath
-Considerably increases the charge speed of the Blink
-Slightly increases the fatigue time of the Blink
-Affected by Tinkerer Perk"

"Pocket Watch
-Moderately reduces the fatigue time of the Blink
-Slightly decreases the charge speed of the Blink
-Affected by the Tinkerer Perk

"Dull Bracelet
-Moderately increases the Blink movement speed
-Slightly decreases Blink charge speed
-Affected by Tinkerer perk

That's about it, though I am missing a few add-ons so not sure about the others. If I had no add-ons and used Tinkerer, it wouldn't have an effect?

[Plagues7]

Tinker speeds up her charge time addons, as listed above.

[Otherwise Occupied]

Originally posted by Ashern:

"Spasmodic Breath
-Considerably increases the charge speed of the Blink
-Slightly increases the fatigue time of the Blink
-Affected by Tinkerer Perk"

"Pocket Watch
-Moderately reduces the fatigue time of the Blink
-Slightly decreases the charge speed of the Blink
-Affected by the Tinkerer Perk

"Dull Bracelet
-Moderately increases the Blink movement speed
-Slightly decreases Blink charge speed
-Affected by Tinkerer perk

That's about it, though I am missing a few add-ons so not sure about the others. If I had no add-ons and used Tinkerer, it wouldn't have an effect?

The answer used to be yes - Tinkerer was bugged and affect too much. They tried to fix that, though, so the answer is probably no now.

All three of these perks say "Blink Charge Speed" so that is the one element that tinkerer effects on the Nurse. Logic ftw!

Tinkerer is also listed on perks that do the opposite of something good for that attribute. I'm not sure how that plays out, I haven't tested it. For example, a decreased charge speed is bad and that's the tradeoff you get from pocket watch and dull bracelet in order to get their moderate level positive effect.

So while Spasmodic Breath increases charge speed so obviously tinkerer would further increase charge speed, I'm not sure if Tinkerer would increase or decrease charge speed on those two. I am assuming it is increasing charge speed and just sorta cancelling out the negative effect. Needs testing!

[Scarsick]

Only charge speed addons. Pocket watch for example, at the higher tier, tinkerer increase the charge speed (that is slightly decreased by the addon), by 10%, but it would do nothing for the fatigue time.

[Otherwise Occupied]

Originally posted by scarsick:

Only charge speed addons. Pocket watch for example, at the higher tier, tinkerer increase the charge speed (that is slightly decreased by the addon), by 10%, but it would do nothing for the fatigue time.

I would assume that it is additive, not multiplicative, like most effects in this game (for example offerings addition to bloodpoint gain when combined with blood hunt).

So I would guess you're getting 10% of the base charge speed, then subtracting out the probably 5-10% negative effect from the addon.

[AshernFive]

If there's only one add-on equipped affected by Tinkerer, would it affect that one perk still?

[Otherwise Occupied]

Originally posted by Ashern:

If there's only one add-on equipped affected by Tinkerer, would it affect that one perk still?

Tinkerer effects add-ons. If you equip the perk without the add-on, Tinkerer does nothing. If you equip the add-on without Tinkerer, the add-on works as normal per the description.

[Lamb Sauce]

Originally posted by Ashern:

"Spasmodic Breath
-Considerably increases the charge speed of the Blink
-Slightly increases the fatigue time of the Blink
-Affected by Tinkerer Perk"

"Pocket Watch
-Moderately reduces the fatigue time of the Blink
-Slightly decreases the charge speed of the Blink
-Affected by the Tinkerer Perk

"Dull Bracelet
-Moderately increases the Blink movement speed
-Slightly decreases Blink charge speed
-Affected by Tinkerer perk

That's about it, though I am missing a few add-ons so not sure about the others. If I had no add-ons and used Tinkerer, it wouldn't have an effect?

The Spasmodic Breath gets an increased charge speed (10% faster if you use Tinkerer).
The Pocket Watch reduces the fatigue time even more (again, by 10% if you use Tinkerer).
The Dull Bracelet increases the blink movement speed (again, 10% faster if you use Tinkerer).

Devs changed this perk so it's no longer multiplicate. It's additive now instead, which is a great buff to this perk.
The negative effects of an addon are NOT affected by Tinkerer and won't enhance the downsides of addons.

At least that's what the devs said a few streams ago.

And no, Tinkerer affects only addons, so if you don't use addons, it's a wasted perk slot.

[Otherwise Occupied]

Originally posted by Alyex:

Originally posted by Ashern:

"Spasmodic Breath
-Considerably increases the charge speed of the Blink
-Slightly increases the fatigue time of the Blink
-Affected by Tinkerer Perk"

"Pocket Watch
-Moderately reduces the fatigue time of the Blink
-Slightly decreases the charge speed of the Blink
-Affected by the Tinkerer Perk

"Dull Bracelet
-Moderately increases the Blink movement speed
-Slightly decreases Blink charge speed
-Affected by Tinkerer perk

That's about it, though I am missing a few add-ons so not sure about the others. If I had no add-ons and used Tinkerer, it wouldn't have an effect?

The Spasmodic Breath gets an increased charge speed (10% faster if you use Tinkerer).
The Pocket Watch reduces the fatigue time even more (again, by 10% if you use Tinkerer).
The Dull Bracelet increases the blink movement speed (again, 10% faster if you use Tinkerer).

Devs changed this perk so it's no longer multiplicate. It's additive now instead, which is a great buff to this perk.
The negative effects of an addon are NOT affected by Tinkerer and won't enhance the downsides of addons.

At least that's what the devs said a few streams ago.

And no, Tinkerer affects only addons, so if you don't use addons, it's a wasted perk slot.

Are you 100% sure that Tinkerer effects Fatigue and blink movement speed instead of charge time for all three addons?

[Lamb Sauce]

Originally posted by Corrupted:

Originally posted by Alyex:

The Spasmodic Breath gets an increased charge speed (10% faster if you use Tinkerer).
The Pocket Watch reduces the fatigue time even more (again, by 10% if you use Tinkerer).
The Dull Bracelet increases the blink movement speed (again, 10% faster if you use Tinkerer).

Devs changed this perk so it's no longer multiplicate. It's additive now instead, which is a great buff to this perk.
The negative effects of an addon are NOT affected by Tinkerer and won't enhance the downsides of addons.

At least that's what the devs said a few streams ago.

And no, Tinkerer affects only addons, so if you don't use addons, it's a wasted perk slot.

Are you 100% sure that Tinkerer effects Fatigue and blink movement speed instead of charge time for all three addons?

I'm not, actually. I just looked Tinkerer up again and it says that it only affects the charge time addons of powers. So I'm probably wrong there.

[Otherwise Occupied]

Originally posted by Alyex:

Originally posted by Corrupted:

Are you 100% sure that Tinkerer effects Fatigue and blink movement speed instead of charge time for all three addons?

I'm not, actually. I just looked Tinkerer up again and it says that it only affects the charge time addons of powers. So I'm probably wrong there.

NP. We're making progress in knowledge here. So this is how I think it works:

It affects one attribute per killer. It adds a 10% or whatnot bonus to that one attribute, even if in that addon it starts with a negative effect.

We should test that.

[Otherwise Occupied]

Wish I had glythe or especially ichmag to jump in and give test results. I'm not sure if ichmag still plays dbd.