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rat Jan 16, 2021 @ 9:43pm
Not fun?
I recently posted a review about DOOM (2016) talking about how the game is just amazing in almost every way but it just doesn't feel fun for me. I wanted to see if anyone else had a similar experience whether you played previous ones or are new to the franchise.
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Originally posted by adams_apple:
You're not alone, I definitely think something is missing from Doom 2016 that keeps it from becoming the classic that the original Doom was, but I can't put my finger on it. It's really bothering me because Doom 2016 does so many things well and ostensibly is exactly what I want a first person shooter to be. Lots of weapons, check. Secret hunting, check. Run and gun gameplay, check. Remixed and reimagined soundtrack based on the original Doom tracks, check. But something about it is still off. I can think of a few possibilities.

1. Disappearing enemies. One of the inevitable and unfortunate limitations to modern game optimization is you don't often get permanent corpses. While it was satisfying to leave a sea of corpses in your wake, it also had the advantage of letting you know where you'd been in the map. I found myself needlessly circling some levels because there's no sign of combat except walls and floors painted in blood.

2. Glory kills. This one definitely seems like the weakest part of the game as it requires no effort or skill, and despite the variety of glory kills you can do there is no tactical difference. It's just a brief interruption to all the shooting you could be doing. Beyond the inconvenience, it really cheapens the combat. While it may seem pretty badass to rip the heart of a mancubus out of his chest and feed it to him, it just looks too effortless to be satisfying. It makes you wonder how it took so many bullets to bring down an enemy that breaks as easily as a Cadbury egg.

3. Weapons. Something's not right with the weapons. They're mostly the same as the original, but they don't feel the same. The original pistol is gone and the shotgun doesn't look anything like a shotgun so it's hard to gauge how powerful it's supposed to be. The rocket launcher is really disappointing, it's weak and has a pretty pathetic blast radius. The plasma rifle is definitely not the powerhouse it used to be. And the chainsaw is just beyond cheap. Even though it has limited uses, what fun is a weapon that just one hit kills any enemy and refills all of your ammo? Same with the berserk powerup, everything dies in one hit and that's boring.

4. Arena combat. Definitely not like the original which was more of a run through the gauntlet. Yes the original Doom also had teleporting enemies but it never locked you in a room until the game decided you were done. Aside from looking for secrets, that's mostly what I do in the game now. It's just not that fun and doesn't bring the omnipresent threat of a demon sneaking up behind you.

There's also a lot of minor things I have issues with, like some of the enemy designs. I don't like what they did with the pink demon and the cyber mancubus looks like an obese nerd wearing VR gear. The sound effects are not as iconic, and it's hard to tell how much damage you took as there's not really a visual or sound cue to differentiate. Whatever it is that's holding the game back, It drives me crazy because new Doom is obviously a great game with a lot of love for the franchise behind it.
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Torbaz Jan 16, 2021 @ 10:00pm 
What
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rat Jan 16, 2021 @ 10:03pm 
Originally posted by Torbaz:
What

I said in my review something along the lines of the game had everything that should've made it a massive hit such as the soundtrack, graphics, design etc. but it just, for some reason, didn't seem enjoyable to me and I was curious if anyone else had a similar experience
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Torbaz Jan 17, 2021 @ 1:09am 
how is it possible that the game is amazing in almost every way but it's not fun
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Torbaz Jan 17, 2021 @ 1:09am 
turn the difficulty up
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rat Jan 17, 2021 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Torbaz:
turn the difficulty up

I've played on every difficulty maybe I'm depressed lol I'll just download it later and give it a replay
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m4nu-b4n4nu Jan 17, 2021 @ 4:39am 
ive played doom eternal and then doom(2016), and i prefer the gameplay of eternal. it feels more fluid and engaging to me since u get more movement abilities and earlier (e.g. double jump is available from the start) :).
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PainkilleR Jan 17, 2021 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by ุ:
Originally posted by Torbaz:
What

I said in my review something along the lines of the game had everything that should've made it a massive hit such as the soundtrack, graphics, design etc. but it just, for some reason, didn't seem enjoyable to me and I was curious if anyone else had a similar experience
I am kind of nitpicking your comment, but:

1. I can't really recall any games with bad soundtracks. At least the games I have played. For some reason, if there is any music in games, then it ends up being at least serviceable, and more often than not really good. In other words soundtracks don't turn games into massive hits in 99% of cases.
2. Graphics are graphics... They have nothing to do with the fact the game being good or not.
3. Design is very important (if you are talking about level design, world building, etc), but it's not the strongest side of the Doom 2016.

What I mean here is that soundtrack and graphics are not "everything" that should've made the game fun for you, and design, while it's important isn't that good in Doom 2016. So maybe your review of the game isn't correct at all, and Doom 2016 doesn't actually have "anything" that should've made it a massive hit for you.

Now, answering your question, of course I had similar experience. Not in case of Doom 2016 (I really liked the game minus simplistic level design and constant combat interruptions by glory kills and stuff... And some other gameplay features I didn't like.), but there are plenty of other games out there that I don't like.

It's just that games aren't made for everyone. You pick and play those games you like, and don't play those ones you don't. And if the game is actually made for "everyone" (lowest common denominator), then it's not a good game.

TL:DR;

The game is not fun for you because it's not fun for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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bikemanmike Jan 17, 2021 @ 8:03am 
As politely as I can put it, your unhappiness with the game sounds like a you problem. It is a well received smashing hit.

It's definitely possible that there is a mismatch in what you find enjoyable in a video game vs. what this one has to offer. You might have also overplayed this game which causes it to be less fun over time.

You could also be suffering from lack of fulfilment in your life expecting a game to fill the hole. Unfortunately I don't think a hole like that can't be made up with a game like this one.

If you're looking to fill a hole, there are addictive alternatives out there that focus more on hyper stimulating your brain with scheduled and unscheduled rewards that might feel more fun for you as they distract you more fully from your life
Last edited by bikemanmike; Jan 17, 2021 @ 8:04am
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Deathscare Jan 17, 2021 @ 2:24pm 
What the ♥♥♥♥
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Zimbaly-|@tacks| Jan 17, 2021 @ 9:37pm 
Felt hollow.
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rat Jan 17, 2021 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Zimta Clause:
Felt hollow.

I've come to that conclusion; back to dark souls 🤘😔
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⛧PankoManko⛧ Jan 18, 2021 @ 1:56pm 
My only issue that made the game unfun to was the amount of problems it was giving me.

I ran into a lot of graphical issues, which some were fixed by switching it from OpenGL to Vulcan, but problems still persisted like a stuttery framerate/drops in certain sections, audio crackling, which seems to be tied with the framerate drops, or just cutting out sometime, and crashes.

I have all my drivers on everything updated, so I don't get why I have issues.

Managed to chug along and get through the game, but I don't plan on touching the game again any time soon though.
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rat Jan 18, 2021 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by MortalBlade:
My only issue that made the game unfun to was the amount of problems it was giving me.

I ran into a lot of graphical issues, which some were fixed by switching it from OpenGL to Vulcan, but problems still persisted like a stuttery framerate/drops in certain sections, audio crackling, which seems to be tied with the framerate drops, or just cutting out sometime, and crashes.

I have all my drivers on everything updated, so I don't get why I have issues.

Managed to chug along and get through the game, but I don't plan on touching the game again any time soon though.

me when I was trying to get fallout3 to work, and finally did, only to not want to play it lol
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DottyTitan Jan 18, 2021 @ 2:30pm 
I totally agree, I respect the game for being a fps masterpiece but I personally didn't enjoy playing it nearly as much as I did Doom Eternal. I love both the games but Doom 2016 feels as if its just chugging along sometimes
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rat Jan 18, 2021 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by DottyTitan:
I totally agree, I respect the game for being a fps masterpiece but I personally didn't enjoy playing it nearly as much as I did Doom Eternal. I love both the games but Doom 2016 feels as if its just chugging along sometimes

yeah that's kinda how i felt like it's clearly an amazing game but for some reason aspects of it just feel tedious
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