Did the original DOOM got removed from the Steam Store?

[Sleepy Stickman]

Am I blind, or did the original DOOM got removed from the Steam Store?

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Nope, they're still there mate.
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/18397/

[ShikenNuggets]

"Ultimate DOOM" is the 1995 re-release of the original. It's the same as the original except that it includes an extra episode, "Thy Flesh Consumed".

[Mankybus]

It's all still there. Even Doom 3 BFG Edition but as far as PC goes, we don't talk about the BFG Edition. It doesn't exist on PC - you saw nothing.

[ZOMBIE]

Originally posted by DarkStarAngelo:

It's all still there. Even Doom 3 BFG Edition but as far as PC goes, we don't talk about the BFG Edition. It doesn't exist on PC - you saw nothing.

^ I'm with that guy, that thing that started with a B was just a nightmare. An i mean the kind that aren't any fun

[Mankybus]

Originally posted by ZOMBIE:

Originally posted by DarkStarAngelo:

It's all still there. Even Doom 3 BFG Edition but as far as PC goes, we don't talk about the BFG Edition. It doesn't exist on PC - you saw nothing.

^ I'm with that guy, that thing that started with a B was just a nightmare. An i mean the kind that aren't any fun

Nothing started with B relating to Doom! Why would you say that? Hahahahaha! Nothing like that exists, nope - definitely not! :D

[DogMeat]

They did pull some of the Doom games from Steam a while back but that wasn't for too long. Had to do with the publisher switch from Activision to Bethesda I believe.

They also pulled Doom 3 from Steam when BFG came out, presumably because they foolishly assumed 'no one would want to play vanilla Doom 3 with our remaster out that removes mod support! (among many, many other issues). After fan outcry they wisely put 'vanilla' Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil back on Steam.

I know BFG edition isn't good, but I'd still recommend it at a discount for the Doom 2 and 3 exclusive add ons, No Rest for the Living and Lost Mission.

[Mankybus]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

They also pulled Doom 3 from Steam when BFG came out, presumably because they foolishly assumed 'no one would want to play vanilla Doom 3 with our remaster out that removes mod support! (among many, many other issues). After fan outcry they wisely put 'vanilla' Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil back on Steam.

I know BFG edition isn't good, but I'd still recommend it at a discount for the Doom 2 and 3 exclusive add ons, No Rest for the Living and Lost Mission.

The BFG Edition was great for those who were playing mostly PS3 and Xbox 360 at the time but it doesn't exist on PC - let it slip into the ether in pure silence :D

[Agentgrizzly]

Originally posted by ZOMBIE:

Originally posted by DarkStarAngelo:

It's all still there. Even Doom 3 BFG Edition but as far as PC goes, we don't talk about the BFG Edition. It doesn't exist on PC - you saw nothing.

^ I'm with that guy, that thing that started with a B was just a nightmare. An i mean the kind that aren't any fun

same!

[MasterionX]

Can someone here explain what's wrong with the DOOM 3: BFG Edition?

[Kyoki]

Originally posted by MasterionX:

Can someone here explain what's wrong with the DOOM 3: BFG Edition? :2018thebesteye:

BFG edition has a few changes from vanilla doom 3, these are:
Increased brightness in certain areas
More ammo (They doubled the pick ups)
Shoulder mounted flashlight - so you can light stuff up AND shoot
And a couple of character models were slightly changed

It also fixed resolutions on modern systems.

Now the vanilla purists will tell you that this game is bad, or that it is not as scary, ect... But i am one of those people who thinks that BFG edition, overall, is a great package. It includes og dooms with extra episode. Has all Doom 3 DLC. And the flashlight on your armour makes way more sense than the handheld one (Which is a reason why we had freaking duck-tape mod in vanilla - but some people forget that). The only bad change was the ammo counts increase - cuz it lowered the difficulty. But besides that - it's a great package.

[DogMeat]

In regards to the flashlight... "sense" isn't the point of it. Doom 3 was supposed to have more of a horror atmosphere and many of the changes sabotage that. As someone who loved Doom 3 from day one in part due to it's amazing atmosphere I find it disgusting that BFG Edition is going to be many people's first experience with Doom 3. I only recommend it AFTER experiencing original Doom 3. BFG Edition is the Silent Hill HD collection version of Doom 3.

[Kyoki]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

In regards to the flashlight... "sense" isn't the point of it. Doom 3 was supposed to have more of a horror atmosphere and many of the changes sabotage that. As someone who loved Doom 3 from day one in part due to it's amazing atmosphere I find it disgusting that BFG Edition is going to be many people's first experience with Doom 3. I only recommend it AFTER experiencing original Doom 3. BFG Edition is the Silent Hill HD collection version of Doom 3.

Honestly... i completely dissagree. Silent Hill HD collection is a sin that should have never been made. Meanwhile BFG edition, while it has it's problems, is a great package overall. As for the horror atmosphere... maybe it is just me, but having grown up on horror movies and games (og silent hill games, og resident evil, and movies like "The grudge", and Stephen king novels).... Doom 3 never was scary. It was dark and clunky. With a few tries at a jumpscare, and annoying imps jumping at you from behind closed doors. The only legit creepy moment was your first arrival at hell. But even then... Just like F.E.A.R. it failed quite a bit at horror. (Although FEAR Extraction point did fix up the horror quite a bit imo, and yea FEAR games are still amazing, and i still like Doom 3, i just feel like BFG edition gets some undeserved hate).

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Kyoki:

Honestly... i completely dissagree. Silent Hill HD collection is a sin that should have never been made. Meanwhile BFG edition, while it has it's problems, is a great package overall.

They both spoil elements of the original game(s). I'll only speak positively of BFG edition for the extra missions in Doom II & Lost Missions. Classic Dooms are censored too.

Originally posted by Kyoki:

As for the horror atmosphere... maybe it is just me, but having grown up on horror movies and games (og silent hill games, og resident evil, and movies like "The grudge", and Stephen king novels).... Doom 3 never was scary. It was dark and clunky. With a few tries at a jumpscare, and annoying imps jumping at you from behind closed doors. The only legit creepy moment was your first arrival at hell. But even then... Just like F.E.A.R. it failed quite a bit at horror. (Although FEAR Extraction point did fix up the horror quite a bit imo, and yea FEAR games are still amazing, and i still like Doom 3, i just feel like BFG edition gets some undeserved hate).

Couldn't disagree more. The sound, the lighting, it was absolutely amazing at the time. That imp crawling out from under the stairs got me good the first night I played it, lights out and headphones on.

Doom 3 got a lot of complaints from Doom fans for not being enough like the originals. Understandable, but I loved it for what it was and find it becomes a much weaker experience the more they've tried to 'fix it' and make it more like the classics. By all means, get BFG edition for the extra content, but I really think it will spoil it for first timers.

[Kyoki]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Originally posted by Kyoki:

Honestly... i completely dissagree. Silent Hill HD collection is a sin that should have never been made. Meanwhile BFG edition, while it has it's problems, is a great package overall.

They both spoil elements of the original game(s). I'll only speak positively of BFG edition for the extra missions in Doom II & Lost Missions. Classic Dooms are censored too.

Originally posted by Kyoki:

As for the horror atmosphere... maybe it is just me, but having grown up on horror movies and games (og silent hill games, og resident evil, and movies like "The grudge", and Stephen king novels).... Doom 3 never was scary. It was dark and clunky. With a few tries at a jumpscare, and annoying imps jumping at you from behind closed doors. The only legit creepy moment was your first arrival at hell. But even then... Just like F.E.A.R. it failed quite a bit at horror. (Although FEAR Extraction point did fix up the horror quite a bit imo, and yea FEAR games are still amazing, and i still like Doom 3, i just feel like BFG edition gets some undeserved hate).

Couldn't disagree more. The sound, the lighting, it was absolutely amazing at the time. That imp crawling out from under the stairs got me good the first night I played it, lights out and headphones on.

Doom 3 got a lot of complaints from Doom fans for not being enough like the originals. Understandable, but I loved it for what it was and find it becomes a much weaker experience the more they've tried to 'fix it' and make it more like the classics. By all means, get BFG edition for the extra content, but I really think it will spoil it for first timers.

I guess we will agree to disagree on BFG.... but honestly - comparing it to the HD collection is just unfair. Missing music, textures, terrible performance, the fog not working, the voice actor change (Which hurts 3 especially since you can't change voices on that one). The game was rereleased from a broken Alpha version since they accidentaly lost the original files and gave this remaster to a different studio completely. Silent Hill HD collection is literally the worst rerelease of a game i can imagine. BFG edition, while flawed in certain areas - is still great. Then again - i was one of those people that felt like og doom 3 was less of a doom game and more of a half-life clone. Even tho i like it.

[MasterionX]

@Kyoki & @DogMeat

Thanks for the information!